It's certainly interesting tech. Wether it's going to work in a real-time FPS game or not is going to be interesting to find out - especially when some of those players are going to do absolutely everything they can possibly think of benefit themselves, and mess everyone else up.
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It's certainly interesting tech. Wether it's going to work in a real-time FPS game or not is going to be interesting to find out - especially when some of those players are going to do absolutely everything they can possibly think of benefit themselves, and mess everyone else up.
Oh that's good. So If I've got £24 then times it by 8 then figure it out I can have £200. Never realised it was so easy. Key words like maybe, perhaps, may, sort of, trying to, are very apt.
I'm confused. CIG have never been balked before at showing a buggy mess, on the grounds that it's an alpha: And things like the floating not-a-Mako, artificially moronic not-Tusken-raiders, and the repeating not-Shai-Hulud suggest they are still cool with that. So just far down the toilet was the S42 demo that they decided not to show it?
They are going to simulate players serverside? Aren't those NPC's?
Maybe these are NPC's that repeatedly gank you while spamming "lol noob" in the chat?
Edit: I'd actually give them money if that were the case.
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The technical problems will take some time to iron out - but that is not the problem. The mix of builds, systems, assets and lack of directional control are what are causing the problems.
X Days to Citizencon - we are nearly ready! We need more fidelity in these bits or it just looks like another rubbish FPS game.
X-1 Days to Citizencon - I want a Sandwormie in there! And I don't just want it wobbling around like this low-fidelity concept you gave me! I want real Sandwormies!
I'm willing to bet that this was/is a huge issue. They had a contractor company working for them for two years before they figured out that the two builds each side was working on wouldn't work. What if the same thing happened with SC and SQ42? Is this why all the models are off in height, and the other issues of textures "meshing" together? With 4 studios in all different time zones how do they handle the engine builds? Who's in charge of compiling all that code that is changed or added on a hourly base?
I'd be willing to bet that all these modules were kept in each studio's "house" running off what ever build they had when the marching orders came in. While the studio in charge of changing the engine happily ticked away while the others fell build after build behind. I feel really sorry for the artists who complete their work only to be screw when they try to integrate it in.
Probably right now each artist downloads the most current build first thing in the morning and checks yesterdays work to make sure it's still running...
Quite possible. I have no idea what change management they use - but it's quite clear from that video that change is not managed.
One guy quite clearly states that they fixed one particular problem, and in the newest build it's reappeared - and Genuine Roberts is heard complaining about the same issue with a different problem.
It's almost like they are making things up as they go along, and expecting everyone else to know their new development path. Emailing other teams to let them know about important events? Sure - nothing wrong with that. But isn't the entire point of having inter-continental studio development with people available 24/7 (in theory) - that you can just Skype your important meetings so that everyone knows immediately what is going on?
One guy quite clearly states that they fixed one particular problem, and in the newest build it's reappeared - and Genuine Roberts is heard complaining about the same issue with a different problem.
It's almost like they are making things up as they go along, and expecting everyone else to know their new development path. Emailing other teams to let them know about important events? Sure - nothing wrong with that. But isn't the entire point of having inter-continental studio development with people available 24/7 (in theory) - that you can just Skype your important meetings so that everyone knows immediately what is going on?
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Gah, another idiot parroting the 1.5 million backers tripe...
Gah, another idiot parroting the 1.5 million backers tripe...
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It's the " It was more about the awe I felt and the indescribable freedom and looseness that the gameplay seemed to be presenting." guy I feel sorry for.
He may be better off saving his money by ignoring expensive ship jpegs and going for hello.jpg instead
He may be better off saving his money by ignoring expensive ship jpegs and going for hello.jpg instead
No it more like this you got 24 little cargo couriers on a 24 lane high way and big part one single huge truck.
Xeon 22 core can handle 44 threads so if you got 44 lanes on the high way and have 44 little courier cargo halers.
You get more done. But the big truck is holding it back.
So the key to efficient and good scaling multithreading is get the seqiential stuf to nice zero for best scaling.
If the truck is 50% and could reduce that to under 10% better 1% then it scales much better with more cores.
In cases where the compute job is pure independed and can be split off in larg amout of small computation . Then scaling is extreem. But in games often this is not the case. There are dependancies. Partly can be reduced with refactoring or better designed multithreading engine. But you will keep some.
There is, I think, a grey area between "miserable workplace" and "designer furniture with giant artwork murals". Thinking back to my coding days, a comfy chair and a kettle (alternating between coffee and pot-noodles) was enough to pull an all-nighter...
You programmers have it so easy
Comfy chair and a kettle? Luxury!
Try being stuck in a hardware clean room for a working day - with the nasty lights, constant hvac noise, bootie covers, grounding wires, no chance to go outside on a break, and you have to troubleshoot some pointless PCB against the wrong test data
I understand if someone just has lost 10000 dollars in this and now needs talking heads babbling excuses for 20 minutes. That's all what I get from this material.
I don't have any money in Star Citizen, I don't care at all for those excuses. CIG/RSI/whoever, start delivering something tangible and keep those cult videos inside your circle. Nobody really cares about how a bunch of guys fails at creating a video game for five years.
How about showing something noteworthy, which actually works on a customer PC and is not a blatant ripoff of something else?
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So basically he's talking about what everyone calls "mega servers" and have been doing for years. Substituting "cloud" servers for their own servers doesn't really change the fact.
It's alright pipedreaming about 2000 people or 10,000 people in one area but it would still need massive amounts of instancing or culling, look at other games using their own server farms like World of Warcraft, on tried and proven tech and far less demanding than SC, they don't put 2000 people in one place, or EVE, again tried and proven and their methods for handling so many players in one place, or GW2 or TSW etc
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Well why didn't he say that?[wacky]
Well why didn't he say that?[wacky]
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You programmers have it so easy
Comfy chair and a kettle? Luxury!
Try being stuck in a hardware clean room for a working day - with the nasty lights, constant hvac noise, bootie covers, grounding wires, no chance to go outside on a break, and you have to troubleshoot some pointless PCB against the wrong test data
Is "no, thanks" an option?
You just don't understand Genuine Roberts!
He's five minutes away from refactoring the speed of light
I take it back. What was quoted does not match up with what Dual Universe is doing. DU is doing something incredibly advanced. The quote with the "times it by 8" I just can't figure out exactly what is being said there. There is no basis for why 24 or 40 suddenly became 8 instances and then magically was multiplied by 8. I'm only going based on the words there, I was having fun in other games that work when I read that but either something was missed in the transcribing or something was completely ignored in the mind of the person that said that text.
You assuming he has a clue what he's talking about...
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