Yep, switching to Lumberyard is just "a thing that has happened".
There are probably reasons for taking this approach, I think Ben has tried to explain some of it.
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Yep, switching to Lumberyard is just "a thing that has happened".
There are probably reasons for taking this approach, I think Ben has tried to explain some of it.
Well, having dynamic support of spooling up AWS instances makes sense for Space Marine for example. Also having VR support might help....if SC/SQ42 ever gets to that point though.
Other than that I actually believe Chris that it is just strategic rebranding to Amazon due of CryTek going down (hey, he actually said that himself).
Don't forget the thousands of NPC characters, each with their own backstory, going around doing their own thing. It's Westworld, only much bigger, and in space. [big grin]
I tried a quick reality check this morning. If you use Google search for "Star Citizen Discussion", this thread isn't on the first page... not even on the first 5 pages.
I think that anyone wanting to be outraged over the influence of this little backwater of criticism, poor satire and mocking humour (or attempts at), needs a little introspection.
Personally I would expect this thread has zero negative effect on SC. Possibly the opposite, if people only focus on Rolan and Ben Parry's input as Ben gives some rare insights on occasion.
Sure, there are posters here that want to see the negative in everything that CiG do; I agree that the general feeling tends to be: "Let's start with inveterate liars and charlatans and work up from there". A lot of the long-time posters here were backers, some to the tune of $3000+, before they refunded out.
In summary, there are about 20 frequent posters in here, on a grey scale from "Reasonable" to "Out there like Pluto, Man!" Nothing that is posted here is of any consequence, it is like crew-room banter, ragging on one of the other squadrons. No harm, no foul.
I think that anyone wanting to be outraged over the influence of this little backwater of criticism, poor satire and mocking humour (or attempts at), needs a little introspection.
Personally I would expect this thread has zero negative effect on SC. Possibly the opposite, if people only focus on Rolan and Ben Parry's input as Ben gives some rare insights on occasion.
Sure, there are posters here that want to see the negative in everything that CiG do; I agree that the general feeling tends to be: "Let's start with inveterate liars and charlatans and work up from there". A lot of the long-time posters here were backers, some to the tune of $3000+, before they refunded out.
In summary, there are about 20 frequent posters in here, on a grey scale from "Reasonable" to "Out there like Pluto, Man!" Nothing that is posted here is of any consequence, it is like crew-room banter, ragging on one of the other squadrons. No harm, no foul.
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Yeah. Cig has the code, has the coders, and this problem with the netcode that coders made and won't go away. It's just a strategic rebranding to go with someone who internets for a living...
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Well, during discussion on subreddit yesterday they clearly stated many times that this thread attracts their interest because they can't outshout criticism, criticism of SC, mocking, ridicule is allowed here. And ohh, you allow Derek to post here occasionally (when he is not banned for something stupid he has done or rather harsh rhetoric he use sometimes) and you are also being bad towards SC too (for them mods are FD employees and should be impartial...like SHOULD be impartial...otherwise Internet gods kill kittens or something).
In short, we make them uneasy, because they control other places with their messaging. We are small stone in their shoe. Of course we are flawed and I personally see already myself too much commenting here - should really take my free time elsewhere. But we are inconvenience. Way SC mob works ouside this thread is astonishing. They will DM you everywhere. They will attack you - everywhere. YouTube, comments on news articles, etc. It is just well oiled mechanism - because people has to protect their investment.
Fact that there are parts of SC community who can't stand us just because we exist - despite of our non-impact on backers - speaks volumes about toxic construct whole grey market system/"emotional buy in" for SC project are.
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It's a fun mix of people, includes occasional excruciatingly careful yet clinically passive aggressive contributions from employees of both companies, provides an alternately dull or explosive backdrop to discuss the mechanics of space sims and the tricky proposition of trying to fund production of them in the 10s. All that plus appearances by the graying enfant terrible of the genre, what's not to love as we chart the course of an all-time PC gaming Titanic of epic proportions! Er, I mean -- buy an Idris!
We STILL get the unending marketing, every single video released, every single sale detailed, every single new ship lusted after -- just peppered with references to every single comedy ever made, hot graphics rendering pipeline erotica, and more Daikatana name checks than you'd get down at the supermarket. Digital Anvils get dropped on Mancunian feet on every page, granted -- but at the end of the day, no such thing as bad publicity, right Sandi? Plus most of us helped pay for your furniture and temporary tattoos.
We STILL get the unending marketing, every single video released, every single sale detailed, every single new ship lusted after -- just peppered with references to every single comedy ever made, hot graphics rendering pipeline erotica, and more Daikatana name checks than you'd get down at the supermarket. Digital Anvils get dropped on Mancunian feet on every page, granted -- but at the end of the day, no such thing as bad publicity, right Sandi? Plus most of us helped pay for your furniture and temporary tattoos.
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well, the problem as I see it are the way CIG treated their original backers, I was one of them. I don't hate them or see everything they do as negative, I just don't trust them one bit.
Now that they are going for the amazone Engine, another modified frankencry Engine, I just wonder how much money CIG flushed down the drain of sweet backer money.
Nope, CR and Co. don't have one ounce of credibility in my books at all, and this thread are a gold mine of information and lots of laughs.
Right. The people complaing are just looking for reasons to be offended. Purely a case of "Stop saying mean things about something I like"
As we've all seen with the Derek Smart stuff, it is the butt-hurt Star Citizen fans who give the guy exposure, exactly what they are doing with this thread.
Are we the unredeemable and deplorables? I wear that badge with pride in this case.
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I didn't realise you could get a refund. I'm all in to the tune a few thousand £, but probably won't ever play if the VR implementation isn't ever prioritised. Not sure I'd want a refund though.
Ohh we are reason why ISIS exists and Trump won.
At least according to few subreddits anyway
Oh boy, buy some FD shares instead, you support a honest company, greats devs and an outstanding portfolio of products. At least you will get a return of your real investment.
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Ohh we are reason why ISIS exists and Trump won.
At least according to few subreddits anyway
Can't rep you, here have some virtual rep+++
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Nothing that is posted here is of any consequence, it is like crew-room banter, ragging on one of the other squadrons.
That pretty much sums it up. A bunch of people here - some of us for a very long time - have sort of bonded internet stylee - over a common topic. It's like dropping in on a favourite bar/cafe to see familiar peeps waffling about SC and occasionally trying to outdo each other will silly puns/dodgy humour.
I just ran a search on Star Citizen - without adding discussion - the results are mostly dominated by Lumberyard - which makes sense right now. This thread didn't show up at all.
Whenever I did that in the past it would show up about page 5 or 6.
Kotaku is still on page 2 though http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/09/23/inside-the-troubled-development-of-star-citizen
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Must be the power of Google. "Star Citizen Discussion" - with quotes - was 19th on my list, and 15th without quotes...
But you're right, we're the internet equivalent of the guys still in the pub after drinking up time. I have no idea why they are so interested in us...
Because this thread is the one place they cannot control the narrative. Everybody sees how they go into articles or threads on PCGamer, Massively, MMORPG, Polygon et al and shout down criticism or discussions but they can't do it here and they hate that. All that's left to these man-babies is to throw their toys out of the pram and make impotent threats at Frontier and the Elite community.
I think most of the zealots who point the finger in this direction, are those with lots of expensive jpegs of rare ships to sell to gullible Citizens once (if) SC is released. They don't want us stirring things up and possibly reducing the value of their portfolio by spreading FUD. :x
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