The truth about Raxxla

IIRC it was said that a CMDR had passed through the system but not found whatever it is.
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Was that actually confirmed ? I thought that was another unconfirmed rumor.

If true, and as old as that rumor is, it was back in the 'honk-n-jump' days. If the CMDR honked, the system was 'discovered', and we can limit the search to just discovered systems. But that idea has been bent/folded/mutilated for years now.
 
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Was that actually confirmed ? I thought that was another unconfirmed rumor.

If true, and as old as that rumor is, it was back in the 'honk-n-jump' days. If the CMDR honked, the system was 'discovered', and we can limit the search to just discovered systems. But that idea has been bent/folded/mutilated for years now.

Never confirmed. Never anything. See my previous post before yours.
 
This is a rumour/falsehood that doesn't wanna seem to die. There's been zero evidence brought forward of anyone "honking the system Raxxla was in and flying away". No confirmation exists (that we know of) from FDev or any past or present devs. No audio recordings, no video recordings It's been long since said there was a "backroom meeting interview" at a Elite meet or whatever, and that Michael Brooks said this, that someone had honked the system. Individuals that have been mentioned in this thread say they were there, yet, never provided any evidence of this interview. CMDR (and streamer) Super_Chicken, another Raxxla hunter, decided to go straight to the source a couple years ago and ask Michael Brooks about this alleged "backroom interview". CMDR Super_Chicken posted this along with Michael Brooks' response here and said he (Super_Chicken) would welcome any further conversation about the subject any time.
He mispelled the word 'Raxxla' lol weird

He also said "i don't remember" , which is odd and also sorta like saying "i don't recall' on the witness-stand in a courtroom.

So yeah i dunno.... For me, the search continues. It harms no one and only makes for more Exploration motivation, credits, & XP. 💫
 
Ninja'd by MojoXFTN1.

Was that actually confirmed ? I thought that was another unconfirmed rumor.

If true, and as old as that rumor is, it was back in the 'honk-n-jump' days. If the CMDR honked, the system was 'discovered', and we can limit the search to just discovered systems. But that idea has been bent/folded/mutilated for years now.
OK, I stop spreading unfounded rumours.
 
though the vod has been deleted
How convenient. But obviously, as information critical to the Raxxla search - it implies that it's in a normally-visitable system, though isn't immediately obvious on arrival - there should be plenty of threads the day or two after around forums, Reddit, etc. which mention this video and excitably discuss the contents, no?


This is the main problem: on my searches for the source of the rumour, it seems to spring into existence fully-formed sometime in 2019, referencing something which allegedly happened in 2016 or 2017 but which no-one at the time can be found discussing publicly at all, and which conveniently can't be cited (though "deleted livestream" is new as an explanation for why, sure)

Looking back to 2016 and 2017, there are multiple separate Raxxla-related events which I think have just got merged in people's heads into a single event:
1) The various (citable!) quotes from senior Frontier staff saying that they know where Raxxla is [1]
2) Speculation that someone might have passed through the system and not noticed it as part of general Explorer Anxiety
3) A claim to have found Raxxla which included the detail that the star had been previously discovered (but didn't say where it was, and the claimant naturally vanished before being able to provide further evidence)


[1] Which have been laughed at as "obvious" but there are plenty of ways that the location of Raxxla could have been implemented in the game such that it was guaranteed to be somewhere but even Frontier wouldn't know where. So ruling those out does help.
 
My own theory about that, assuming the story is true:

I remember exploring back in the day, when I'd jump into a system that had been previously visited and looked like it had been completely mapped, only to fire off a honk and find there was much more to the system than what was on display. My thought is, whatever system Raxxla may have been in was visited by some doof using that basic, limited range discovery scanner that was still an option back then, and it remains there undiscovered because it sat outside its scan range. It may have even been visited subsequently, but alot of explorers won't bother rescanning some of those systems cause they were really only looking for that "first discovered" tag.
 
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Yes, in July 2020 after the rumour had already been going around for over a year, and three or four years after the event allegedly happened.

Still doesn't explain how the rumour got started or why no-one apparently thought to mention this important point for two years.
Oh, I am not trying to debate about this but I agree this proves nothing......just lurking the thread and remember I had the the link to that video saved 🙃
 
If true, and as old as that rumor is, it was back in the 'honk-n-jump' days. If the CMDR honked, the system was 'discovered', and we can limit the search to just discovered systems.
That assumes also the cartographic data made back to a station safe. Different era then. Weren't deep space explorers getting interdicted by NPC's thousands of light years outside the bubble at one point? Its almost as likely a possibility it could still be sitting in an undiscovered system.

I read a post recently with an idea I like, that Raxxla just may be the subject of a new narrative within the game, and when the time is right FDEV will finally drop the clues we need to find it, whatever it and its purpose is.
 
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This is a rumour/falsehood that doesn't wanna seem to die. There's been zero evidence brought forward of anyone "honking the system Raxxla was in and flying away". No confirmation exists (that we know of) from FDev or any past or present devs. No audio recordings, no video recordings It's been long since said there was a "backroom meeting interview" at a Elite meet or whatever, and that Michael Brooks said this, that someone had honked the system. Individuals that have been mentioned in this thread say they were there, yet, never provided any evidence of this interview. CMDR (and streamer) Super_Chicken, another Raxxla hunter, decided to go straight to the source a couple years ago and ask Michael Brooks about this alleged "backroom interview". CMDR Super_Chicken posted this along with Michael Brooks' response here and said he (Super_Chicken) would welcome any further conversation about the subject any time.



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I can't dispute any what you say, I wasn't there to hear it, I can't say you didn't remember it right, or even that Frontier lied. But now we have two CMDRs confirming the rumor.

I'll even agree that FD might have been spreading rumors just to add hype to the title.

I totally agree, given the many thousands of hours poured into this, and the amazing investigative powers of these CMDRs, that we should have found SOMETHING. It seems kind of.... cheap.. that the only way to find Raxxla is the pure dumb luck to jump into the right system and scan it. I mean, C'MON... as mentioned, we followed HIGHLY obscure clues to get the Alien ruins and the wire frame models hidden in a sound. But maybe thats just it.

Assuming it's totally true discovery might then depend on taking a ship of that era, and mapping systems. Jump range is much much better now, so you'd have to limit that and force yourself to visit systems you'd jump over. My original Asp-X had a 27 LY jump range, now my Corvette has that. Fleet Carriers make this even worse. You'd need a way to simulate the 'old LR scanner'. Did some of the old modules survive the conversion to the new discovery system ?

In regard to this single rumor and assuming it's true, I have three main issues :
Issue 1 :
IF someone passed thru the system, FD didn't say they honked it. They might have... might not. "Visited" is different than "visited and honked". If they did, did they do it with the LR Scanner. IIRC, There were several versions, and the one that scanned the entire system was much more expensive. So MAYBE, if they honked, with the correct scanner or were within range, they MIGHT have seen something.
Issue 2 : Did the person in question, IF they honked, and IF they were within range, make it home to turn in the data ? Lots of explorers in those days had issues getting home or ganked by NPCs and Players, or just doing dumb things. They might not have turned in the data. So it COULD be 100% truthful, but not 100% the truth on FDs part.
Issue 3 : The "someone".. not player, not CMDR. SOMEONE. Maybe an FDev tester. A reviewer with a limited time account ? Not trying to engage in lawyer speak, or dissect to the Nth degree, but that term seems sketchy.
 
I totally agree, given the many thousands of hours poured into this, and the amazing investigative powers of these CMDRs, that we should have found SOMETHING.
I'm not sure that follows either.

1) Unlike the other Frontier mysteries, the clues are extremely obscure, to the extent that it's extremely hard to tell what even is a clue to Raxxla, and what's just completely unrelated decoration. For example, some people think the garden layout in Tourist-economy stations might be a clue; the chain of reasoning that leads to it being a clue is itself quite long and if it turns out just to be an unrelated pretty garden that some artist put together to make the station look nice that would explain why no-one who thinks it's a clue has found Raxxla. Not that the people who don't think it's a clue have found Raxxla either, of course.

Just in the active thread in recent times there are three or four separate detailed theories for how particular aspects of the game might be clues towards Raxxla; it seems quite likely that at best N-1 or N-2 of them are just looking at complete red herrings - if only we knew which ones! - and if the final answer is revealed will turn out to be on completely the wrong lines (as, it's likely, my attempt at solving it was). None of those theories, even the more detailed ones, are anywhere near the stage of suggesting "maybe Raxxla is in this system"

2) Certainly I'd agree that it's highly unlikely that the only "protection" on Raxxla is the size of the galaxy making it unlikely that anyone would go there in the first place (though, all else equal, that still has a >99.94% chance of working!). In that respect someone commenting that the system it's in had been visited might be taken as a clue that it's not intended to be amenable to brute-force searching. And there are certainly plenty of ways that could be done, just using capabilities we know that the game has had since 1.0 (hidden systems, hidden comets, lots of things that are definitely in the game but you'd never find with just "normal" looking around and scanning)

Plenty of the theories put Raxxla (or the way to reach Raxxla, perhaps) as being within or near the bubble, so "the system has been visited" would be trivially true in that case by now in most cases (certain permit systems aside), and maybe that was the intended hint.

3) Also unlike the other Frontier mysteries, Frontier don't want this one solved quickly. So the things which have let people solve the other ones quickly aren't there.
Again, compare with the Zurara: the initial clues given in Drew Wagar's first book actually pinned down its location really precisely, but it wasn't found because while there were thousands of people searching, most of them were searching in a much wider region - and, in fairness, the toolsets needed to search precisely weren't really available until after it had been discovered by other means; a clue of the same precision given nowadays might be solved within a couple of weeks. And that was one where brute-force searching of systems was all that was needed.

The "someone".. not player
I don't think it's worth trying to dissect the exact wording, since that's being reported at best second-hand (and in some cases third- or fourth-) several years after the fact and is unlikely to be precisely what was said anyway. Maybe if someone had posted about it at the time and that post could be found, it might be better on the wording, but any specific care with which the speaker constructed the statement is going to be lost by now.
 
If we believe Raxxla to be in the bubble, and if we believe the rumour that a commander honked the system and left without investigating, then the only way to solve this once and for all is to:
1. Visit every system in the bubble
2. Use the discovery scanner on every system in the bubble
3. Fully map every planet in the bubble, and document literally EVERYTHING there is to investigate in the bubble.
 
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