Interesting. I just assumed they used the "rubber graphite dome" as well. Consoles have used those since the original NES. Ive had to replace mine over the years though.
Thrustmaster T-flight HOTAS One - Anyone else having Yaw problems?
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Interesting. I just assumed they used the "rubber graphite dome" as well. Consoles have used those since the original NES. Ive had to replace mine over the years though.
Not so much lol please, I'm not that easily confused... even if I do fly a PC these days...I still strip down both my Elite controllers for cleaning at the same time as I get the silicone grease out for the X56...even have the case off my Xbox one X now and then to blow out the fans and heatsinks... general cleaning and very simple maintenance.
I guess I'm just a compulsive tinkerer whether it be an Xbox, car, motorbike or a PC...the way I look at it, basic maintenance is never a bad habit one way or another. If you know how something works, you're more likely to order the inexpensive spare parts needed, get the tools, soldering iron and jewellers screwdrivers out to repair it rather than be sitting for a week waiting on a total item replacement that could be as faulty as the one you sent back in the first place. None of this is rocket science, repairing this stuff is about as complicated as wiring a household plug.
Besides...I didn't grow up in the throw away age...we always had to fix stuff ourselves...
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Yeah, I haven't done it yet but I do understand the maintenance aspect of it better now.
Where my brain breaks is how this happens right out of the box.. day 1 it's a problem and then if you open the HOTAS up to tinker with it you void the warranty.
These ideas run against each other and if regular maintenance and initial calibration DOES require you open the HOTAS up then the instructions on how to do so without voiding the warranty should be included.
But for the record: It's also apparent that the same HOTAS is NOT having the same problems on the PC or PS4 side.. So this isn't an issue of maintenance, it's a quality issue.
I'm not against performing the work, but no one should be blaming the owners for this. Thrustmaster shipped a shotty product that as fun as it is to use can not be endorsed.
TLDR Version: People going all "guess you didn't know how to maintain your stuff" don't know what they're talking about.
Where my brain breaks is how this happens right out of the box.. day 1 it's a problem and then if you open the HOTAS up to tinker with it you void the warranty.
These ideas run against each other and if regular maintenance and initial calibration DOES require you open the HOTAS up then the instructions on how to do so without voiding the warranty should be included.
But for the record: It's also apparent that the same HOTAS is NOT having the same problems on the PC or PS4 side.. So this isn't an issue of maintenance, it's a quality issue.
I'm not against performing the work, but no one should be blaming the owners for this. Thrustmaster shipped a shotty product that as fun as it is to use can not be endorsed.
TLDR Version: People going all "guess you didn't know how to maintain your stuff" don't know what they're talking about.
PS4 version of the Hotas has a LOWER failure rate but it still has a failure rate...
The hotas one is a rebuild yes of the Hotas 4 and not the hotas X...
But like the red ring of death from the 360... there is still failures on the other console builds as well..
As does the PC T1600M hotas build that also uses a POT in the handle for twist... and it fails as well...
The hotas one is a rebuild yes of the Hotas 4 and not the hotas X...
But like the red ring of death from the 360... there is still failures on the other console builds as well..
As does the PC T1600M hotas build that also uses a POT in the handle for twist... and it fails as well...
The problem is most definitely seated directly with the manufacturer...especially in this case. TM seem way too eager to sell poorly built and badly QA tested products and instead of solving the problem at source, simply offer further equally faulty or poorly built replacements as a matter of course.
In this case, the warranty replacement doesn't seem to be worth the time or effort pursuing.
Now if you compare that to a real expensive PC unit...
You have actual lever switches for fire buttons... and a real Variable resister Not a crappy pot for twist... ( Yes the round silver thing is a heavy duty variable resister like you find in variable switches on cars, light switch dimmers and so on )
You have actual lever switches for fire buttons... and a real Variable resister Not a crappy pot for twist... ( Yes the round silver thing is a heavy duty variable resister like you find in variable switches on cars, light switch dimmers and so on )
Now show us how to do it without voiding the warranty. We'll wait.
The screws aren't sealed and all Thrustmaster will ask as proof of malfunction is a video. Attempting a repair won't affect your chances of official replacement.*
*In some countries this may affect your warranty, so check before you attempt a repair... (I have to say this)
That same company saw my video and denied my claim so I'm not sure I would go around telling people to just open up their HOTAS and go ham.
I mean.. I'll do it.. but this is bad advise to dispense.
Yeah.. that's exactly where I'm at right now.. but at least file for the return BEFORE you attempt this.
Be denied or have your warranty expire BEFORE you open up your HOTAS.
Exactly my thought!Don't wanna clean stuff. I bought a console, not a job
Yes, like Mole, there are people, gifted, that enjoy and can strip down equipment. Well, I can strip down everything if I need to, but the way back well....
It is decades ago, admittedly, but I bought into the expensive Falcon F-16 FLCS/TQS setup and here is my point, I used it for many years extensively, not a single time I had to take anything apart to grease or fix.
Why can't they do this today? Well, rhetorical question, I know!
It's big business. You say your product is quality made, yet the quality is just enough to keep the "Cost to make" price well below the "Consumer price". Long as they're flying off the shelf and money is filling up the bank, all our complaining won't matter to most companies. If it's on the assembly line and someone is just slapping the wires in and screwing down the base or using low quality internals, there is no concern for reliability. It will take many more issues with the product to flood them then when the profit starts dropping they will act concerned. Do I sound bitter?!
Whilst that's very true...and the entire ethos of product manufacturing...some companies do take their customer experience, product build quality...and their reputation, a bit more seriously.It's big business. You say your product is quality made, yet the quality is just enough to keep the "Cost to make" price well below the "Consumer price". Long as they're flying off the shelf and money is filling up the bank, all our complaining won't matter to most companies. If it's on the assembly line and someone is just slapping the wires in and screwing down the base or using low quality internals, there is no concern for reliability. It will take many more issues with the product to flood them then when the profit starts dropping they will act concerned. Do I sound bitter?!
Perhaps that's why I'm a Logitech fanboi...I buy any piece of Logitech hardware, register the serial number on my customer account page at Logitech...if it goes wrong within 2 years of purchase, I get a new or updated replacement via courier in 3 or 4 days.
Just recently, I had a faulty LED backlight on one key on my Logitech gaming keyboard which is almost 2 years old, the rest of they keyboard works perfectly...sent off an email (with pic of fault) to customer support...new keyboard arrived in 4 days. The keyboard I had reported the fault on is an outdated model...so I got a brand new bells and whistles G910 gaming keyboard with a smartphone docking port as a free replacement.
Can't fault that for customer support. You can also bet that if I ever buy another keyboard, mouse or gaming peripheral...it'll have a Logitech logo on it.
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I've got one of these failed sticks too, I'm taking mine apart this week. I can't believe Fdev and MS would still have their name on a product as shotty as this. I bought because MS and Fedv backed it, I feel like now TM just gave money to MS and Fdev to throw their name on it. I can't recommend anyone buy this, and I'm sorry for the few people that on my recommendation have bought one.
Official licensed means the operation specs meat the requirements and the products will not be banned via firmware nothing more...
4gamers make licensed Xbox one and PS4 mono wired headsets but there bargin bin wire, speakers and plastic the wiring can break with a minour sneeze they may be licensed but the headset is still not SNEEZE proof one sneeze and the wire on the head set is broken as it comes of your head at the speaker input...
Licensing is an agreement to support the product and not ban it with firmware updates like they do with other unlicensed extras...
And that's what MC is saying here. THAT is the quality of the work Thrustmaster has done to this stick.
It's something to be ashamed of and should not be purchased except for the fact that the Xbox doesn't have another HOTAS option.
It has their name on it, whatever the definition is, it's implied through marketing that both COs approve of the product. Unless its a shameless cash grab (it is) they should be using their positions to support their customers and hold TM accountable for the crappy product.