Trit Transfer...

alexzk

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btw..there is another issue with tritium transfer. Now you can sit in shiny chair on the deck. Guess what you do to refuel tritium prior next jump? :D
 

nemolomen

nemolomen
Darth Ender said:
i dont think anyone was suggesting that they were unable or refusing to play the game because of this issue. So pretty much everyone is doing what they need to do regardless of this problem (who have a carrier). They're just voicing it on the forum because that's what the forum is for. if nobody said anything about things that they feel should be changed because they had the ability to ignore or work around it then the rate of correcting / improving the situation would dramatically fall (in the scenario where those who can make such changes were inclined to make any changes at all). it's important to make the issues that matter to you or impact your day to day playing negatively are voiced frequently or it's liable to never be addressed. even the relatively small ones, because they're more likely to be fixed and many small things actually getting done is far more important to strive for than one or two big things that likely will never get done.
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My opinion is also the same value of data point in the dataset that is these forums' posts as everyone else's opinions are.

It goes without saying.

Why are you saying it?
 

Darth Ender

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nemolomen said:
My opinion is also the same value of data point in the dataset that is these forums' posts as everyone else's opinions are.

It goes without saying.

Why are you saying it?
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the entire post you are replying to specifically states why i and others are saying what we are saying. the justification is described there.

an opinion that states that the topic isn't important without providing a reason why or an alternative topic that is for a given reason more important and is hindered by this less important topic is not on par with the opinions discussing why this topic is a problem. so no, i haven't seen any evidence that your opinion has similar value since it's a post about not caring and leaving it at that.
 

nemolomen

nemolomen
Darth Ender said:
the entire post you are replying to specifically states why i and others are saying what we are saying. the justification is described there.

an opinion that states that the topic isn't important without providing a reason why or an alternative topic that is for a given reason more important and is hindered by this less important topic is not on par with the opinions discussing why this topic is a problem. so no, i haven't seen any evidence that your opinion has similar value since it's a post about not caring and leaving it at that.
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I never said or implied that anyone else's opinion was wrong or invalid or that my opinion is better in any way or even that anyone should share or adopt it. I extend my apologies to anyone who thought so. I simply stated my opinion...back on the block list you go...

Sometimes I do really stupid things, as my words above are a prime example. I apologize for losing it like this on this public forum.
 
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Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
ferus said:
So we can't do anything else to try and improve this game further? FDev always say they value feedback and whatnot. So we provide it. Yes, they manage the game till this day and that'w why it's the perfect reason to ask for adjustments.
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True... The same things get asked time & again, it isn't as if this is an original request. But keep on banging the rocks together, maybe next time it will be different.
ferus said:
If you decided that this game is "good enough" for you then so be it. Go and play it and enjoy it. Just accept the fact that 97,2% of people would like to change one thing or another. Trivial maybe for you, for others it might be important
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Oddly enough, I do go ahead and enjoy it, because I'm not bewailing what the game doesn't have, but instead making use of what it does.
ferus said:
(your opinion isn't the only valid one).
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It is to me.
ferus said:
After all, it wouldn't be the first time FDev changed some things based on player's feedback.
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Nor the last, probably, but as it has already been aired quite regularly since the introduction of FCs, it doesn't appear to be spurring them on to action.
ferus said:
And unless it's an especially sensitive key element that would throw off the whole balance of the game then it can only improve gameplay for others.
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Perhaps it is then? (see below ;) )
ferus said:
Surely, you wouldn't mind if you could transfer tritium without having to involve your own ship each and every time?
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I truly hope they do add the ability to feed fuel, and to plot a course, for FCs - if only to wait for the obvious when players, not thinking ahead, send their FC off 22,000 LY, run out of fuel, then have to catch up with it in a ship that only jumps 26 Ly when carrying 750t fuel...

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Tyres O'Flaherty

Tyres O'Flaherty
Rat Catcher said:
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I truly hope they do add the ability to feed fuel, and to plot a course, for FCs - if only to wait for the obvious when players, not thinking ahead, send their FC off 22,000 LY, run out of fuel, then have to catch up with it in a ship that only jumps 26 Ly when carrying 750t fuel...

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This will happen. I hadn't thought of this before but, I agree, it's inevtiable. In fact I'd probably do it myself :D Customer Support on speed dial.
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Tyres O'Flaherty said:
This will happen. I hadn't thought of this before but, I agree, it's inevtiable. In fact I'd probably do it myself :D Customer Support on speed dial.
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It is inevitable - I remember just after FCs were introduced that a player here jumped theirs out to some remote, not reachable by any ship, spot in the galaxy, didn't have fuel to return, decomissioned the FC then came to the forum to rant about not being able to get back...
 

ferus

ferus
Rat Catcher said:
True... The same things get asked time & again, it isn't as if this is an original request. But keep on banging the rocks together, maybe next time it will be different.

Oddly enough, I do go ahead and enjoy it, because I'm not bewailing what the game doesn't have, but instead making use of what it does.

It is to me.

Nor the last, probably, but as it has already been aired quite regularly since the introduction of FCs, it doesn't appear to be spurring them on to action.

Perhaps it is then? (see below ;) )

I truly hope they do add the ability to feed fuel, and to plot a course, for FCs - if only to wait for the obvious when players, not thinking ahead, send their FC off 22,000 LY, run out of fuel, then have to catch up with it in a ship that only jumps 26 Ly when carrying 750t fuel...

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Yeah, we should just be quiet, not give any further feedback to FDev and hope for the best? Well, I didn't know there was a limit on number of threads that can be posted for a particular issue :-/
And you can be sure this one will be raised over and over again because it's a stupid illogical feature and players don't want it.

And if you don't want other players to voice their opinions or if you think something has been discussed too much then perhaps just stop reading posts that you think are irrelevant? Simple as that.
Posting things like "I don't need this (and therefore no one else should), the game is fine to me" is of course your right but it doesn't help anything in raising this issue.


PS: I didn't say anything about plotting a course so that point is irrelevant to me. And I personally couldn't care less about players who can't think 2 steps ahead.
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
ferus said:
And if you don't want other players to voice their opinions or if you think something has been discussed too much then perhaps just stop reading posts that you think are irrelevant? Simple as that.
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They can voice as may of their opinions as they wish... the same as I might. You do understand the definition of opinion, I assume?
"a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

So yours is yours and mine is mine, and the only one that matters is one's own...

ferus said:
Yeah, we should just be quiet, not give any further feedback to FDev and hope for the best?
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No, just keep headbutting that wall, it might not hurt at some point - and, as you mentioned, some suggestions (exactly how many, was it?) have been taken aboard.

Anyway, if I just retired into a corner like a shrinking violet, as you intimate, how would your frustrations get vented?
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
ferus said:
And you can be sure this one will be raised over and over again because it's a stupid illogical feature and players don't want it.
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Some players. Others can appreciate other points of view and realise that there are valid reasons for things being the way they are. Given that this was asked about at Lavecon I don't know why you think they need telling again.
 
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