UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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i went to system SEER

i found two of these data so far

uONihek.png
 
I am still not convinced, that both the UA and the UP are talking to humans, but it's the result of a humanity based AI, that reuses/adapts human communication. What would you do, if you want to explore a certain region of space? You might send probes to scan and discover, what's around there. In my opinion the UAs are the gatherers of information. And you need something to collect the data: that might be the UP. So one interpretation of the UP image might be, that it's the accumulated data of the UAs (the noise and flickering) and a first analysis of the UP (the image in the middle).

Before Michaels posts I thought more about:
the UAs are beacons that point to a system (Merope) where e.g. an alien craft has crash landed. For they can be found in a sphere around the Pleiades.
The UPs are sent from another place (alien homeworld or what) to find that crashed ship. Maybe the crash did also bring the barnacles to Merope C5, maybe those "plants" were in the cargo hold of the ship.

but now I don't know.
 
Doesn't that just mean that is its furthest angle from the plane of reference or in other words the angle of it's inclination orbit wise?

Edit: My bad not exactly inclination but the angle between its ascending node and its peri, which is not inclination

Shouldn't that be 90deg and -90deg on a circular orbit?
 
I've built up a good scientific approach to all 3 puzzles, they are related over all but not of the order 'put them next to each other '. UPs are not involved directly with barnacles, UAs and UPs have a relation but are separate steps from each other.
I need just a little more information that doesn't involve using an UP/UA, can you scan a star and get composition? What is the composition of Merope?
 
i went to system SEER

i found two of these data so far

http://i.imgur.com/uONihek.png

Great job that could be a clue. Grab it .. and now you'll need to get a UP to test that theory if someone else hasn't already.

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I've built up a good scientific approach to all 3 puzzles, they are related over all but not of the order 'put them next to each other '. UPs are not involved directly with barnacles, UAs and UPs have a relation but are separate steps from each other.
I need just a little more information that doesn't involve using an UP/UA, can you scan a star and get composition? What is the composition of Merope?



Class B stars are very luminous blue-white stars. They range in mass from 2 to 16 solar masses and have a surface temperature reaching 30,000 K. Their lifetimes are shorter than most main sequence stars.

A subgiant is a star that is slightly brighter than a normal main-sequence (dwarf) star of the same spectral class, but not as bright as true giant stars. Although certain subgiants appear to be simply unusually bright metal-rich hydrogen-fusing stars (in the same way subdwarfs are unusually dim metal-poor hydrogen-fusing stars), they are generally believed to be stars that are ceasing or have already ceased fusing hydrogen in their cores. In stars of roughly a solar mass (M☉), this causes the core to contract, which increases the star's central temperature enough to move hydrogen fusion into a shell surrounding the core. This swells the star on the way to becoming a true giant.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_p5Kzy75U&feature=youtu.be

This video. I got EVDISEER for UP blinking as morse. That last part "seer" is very clear ... . . .-.

I got "EHDISEER" but there is a LONG pause between EHDI and the SEER and also long pauses between each of the letters in SEER. So more like EDHI S E E R.

There is a Seer system, so I trucked out there and flew it today. It's under 10 jumps from Felicity Farseer's planet.

Three stars, no nav beacon, planets or stations. Two stars close together, the third ~250k LS out. I stopped and checked a few of the USS on the way to the far star, but none of the ones I checked were convoys. There seemed to be a high number of USS, but that could be the boring 250K LS trip talking. I didn't see anything there, but admittedly I was in a hurry. I had to logout before I had visual on the last star, though I did get close enough for a detailed scan. I'll make the trip to the far star again tonight, but if anyone else is near Felicity you can check as well.
 
I can declare with no doubt what so ever that I failed to find a convoy that has a ship with an Unknown Probe in it's hold in Ross 47 or G 99-49. I have discovered that if I wanted to pirate NPCs for Rare Trade goods, then USSs are great places to look. Every day is a learned day.
 
It's hard when people seem to lose the UP after a few tests.

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I think it's because you have "Lord" in your user name. I'm going to change mine to His Royal Highness, Prince Runcible Shaw and see if people will listen to me. Very few people do currently and that's okay. Either I'm not making points well, at the right time, or in a way that intrigues people. Sometimes even science is a popularity contest.

Suspect that might not work.
Have you thought about something along the lines of "Vlad the Impaler's Official Stake Sharpener_Cmdr Runcible Shaw"?
at least people would get your point
:D:D

Edit: just couldn't resist! Blame it on The Ardmore
 
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Before Michaels posts I thought more about:
the UAs are beacons that point to a system (Merope) where e.g. an alien craft has crash landed. For they can be found in a sphere around the Pleiades.
The UPs are sent from another place (alien homeworld or what) to find that crashed ship. Maybe the crash did also bring the barnacles to Merope C5, maybe those "plants" were in the cargo hold of the ship.

but now I don't know.

This is quite an entertaining (good) hypothesis. You would think the "probe" would be an object sent out to retrieve data and send it back. If they are all point at Merope 5c for a different reason than what the UAs point to Merope for, wouldnt the only logical answer be that they are actually pointing "away" frome 5c?
 
The argument of periapsis for Merope 5C is given as 138.32º. However this is problematic because the orbit is circular so there is no periapsis. I do not understand the 138.32º figure and as yet nobody has been able to give a good reason for it. The best explanation I can think of is that is simply an artefact left over from when the system was created for the game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_of_periapsis

The link there shows the angle quite clearly and it has nothing to do with whether of not the orbit is circular. And yes, should have been the Arg of Periapsis, not the tilt.
 
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I can declare with no doubt what so ever that I failed to find a convoy that has a ship with an Unknown Probe in it's hold in Ross 47 or G 99-49. I have discovered that if I wanted to pirate NPCs for Rare Trade goods, then USSs are great places to look. Every day is a learned day.

you and me both.....6 hours of searching/killing no UP to be found. Now my cargo holds are filled with bio waste and consumer tech aka washing machines
 
I've looked at the first post and am slightly confused. So I'll ask for the purpose of clarity and the avoidance of doubt, the Unknown Probes which have been discovered so far, are they always in the same type of USS? I know we have limited data on this so far. I'm just wondering where to focus my efforts in searching Ross 47 (where I'm just now)

This has already been answered, but it seems if I don't reply multi-quote will never get rid of it. Threat 4 Convoy Signal. Yep.

Breaking news: Wingmate CMDR AFTERGLOW: UA found on the opposite site of the "shell":
*correction: Did overlook it in the first scan of the google sheet - sorry*


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57275930/Hind Sector ZQ-L b8-0 (20160726-211902).jpg

? I'm confused by this. The opposite side of the shell is still the shell.

I have an astronomics question for any who may know.

The System Map shows Merope 5c having an Orbital Eccentricity of 0.00... presumably a circular orbit?

If the orbit is circular, why is the Argument of Periapsis given as 138.xx degrees? Does this not indicate a non-circular orbit?

And in such case, then I can see an argument for interpreting the UP coded circle graphic as offering a clue based on the time.

Could be a clue or it could be that the orbit is very circular, but still slightly elliptical. It might have an ellipticity of 0.000000001 which the system info can't display, but that means it still has a periapsis and apoapsis and therefore still has an argument of periapsis.

Something like this? Yes, the planet spins backwards compared to Earth. The two tricky parts are defining "north" and then indicating a meridian line to measure from.

http://i.imgur.com/XPONtBg.jpg

How are you determining that the planet spins backwards compared to Earth? The direction of of spin is one way to define "east" and then north as well.

Hey guys? Can anyone do Ross 154 and Ross 128 testing with the UA and UP? Ross 128 is right by Merope, and might JUST be a prison.


(Possibly not canon) Ross 154 however was involved with a Thargoid Science Mission (Specifically Merlin because it could support ammonia-based life), and the planet HAS been terraformed compared to FFE, but not what I'd expect a Ammonia-based lifeform to need.


Alternate ideas: The UA and UP are just locators? Has anyone tried testing UAs or UPs in the other nebulae yet?

UA yes, UP no. There are not enough UPs to go around (if any at all).
 
I highly suspect it's the part prior to that which he copied into his reply that he is saying is testable

"So that means the information in the UP about the planet in the sound is NOT merope it is from a nearby planet probably in the UA range."
No, I think it's just the last part. "Maybe it is the more advanced of the 2?"

My guess: UP is more advanced because it points to a more specific location?

But I agree with Goooost, that was a really incomprehensible comment. I'll try to interpret it, just a second...
 
No, I think it's just the last part. "Maybe it is the more advanced of the 2?"

My guess: UP is more advanced because it points to a more specific location?

But I agree with Goooost, that was a really incomprehensible comment. I'll try to interpret it, just a second...


Except you can't test that, can you? Sorry I'm dosed on painkillers post surgery so I can't tell if you are being humerous or not :(

As I can see it only one part of the copied text in the reply is testable in game. What am I missing that you can see?
 
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