Yes I was with my buddy the honorable CMDR Berkinson (i know your reading this). and obtaining a UP would be great, but i need to prep my cobra for such a task (corrosive resistant cargo racks etc engineering) Also i believe that UP's are found among heavily guarded Convoys so would need a wing capable of taking one on.
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Yes I was with my buddy the honorable CMDR Berkinson (i know your reading this). and obtaining a UP would be great, but i need to prep my cobra for such a task (corrosive resistant cargo racks etc engineering) Also i believe that UP's are found among heavily guarded Convoys so would need a wing capable of taking one on.
I read all the things haha
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If there's Anacondas in the enemy NPC wing, you can push the python faster than they can follow! Works against Type 9's in my FDL great in Anarchy systems
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Here is a useful tool in decoding the characteristics of the flight plan delineated by the UP codes. This will add some precision to FrogsFriend's proposal. Also, it will allow an opportunity for everyone who is claiming to be "sciencing" around here, to actually "science" 
It is called GMAT, an open source project of NASA.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gmat/
Perhaps what we need to do is translate the codes from the UP signal into the values of the mission sequence items using the circular diagram as a "decoder ring" as someone once put it. Translate the chirp-words and purrs into the maneuvers that the UP would have made on its path to Merope 5C and thus reverse engineer where it came from.
We'll need to create a solar system using the tools in GMAT and the data from the System Map. The problem is we need to know the precise mass of the UP—oh wait, ahaha, it's 1 ton, because everything that takes up a unit of cargo is 1 ton Right?
It is called GMAT, an open source project of NASA.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gmat/
Perhaps what we need to do is translate the codes from the UP signal into the values of the mission sequence items using the circular diagram as a "decoder ring" as someone once put it. Translate the chirp-words and purrs into the maneuvers that the UP would have made on its path to Merope 5C and thus reverse engineer where it came from.
We'll need to create a solar system using the tools in GMAT and the data from the System Map. The problem is we need to know the precise mass of the UP—oh wait, ahaha, it's 1 ton, because everything that takes up a unit of cargo is 1 ton
Right?
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Cool good to know its been tried.
I shall get back to being quiet and watching what the smart people do/say/find
smart is probably not the right word
Don't take it to heart, shooting down theories in these threads is the easiest thing in the world because 99% of everything posted turns out to be wrong!
My rule of thumb with theories is that if I see nothing there, then there's nothing there, but I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again.
Keep at it and try and get better screenshots or video to strengthen your argument.
i think flipping and rotating the image to fit your theory jus doesnt stand for the image should be as is,if you can zoom in on the galaxy
more and get merope inbetween the 2 lower left lines on the sphere and maybe use sol as a centre point i think the direction line will show us the way
im on xbox so cant do it myself
With this in mind maybe moving the target on the last second so it's at 135 on the locator thing on the hud with a UP in ya hold will give you the desired effect?
Anyone feel like talking about Meta Alloys?
META-ALLOY image
I feel like we have missed something with them. The galnet articles hint that there are as yet undiscovered uses for them, and I for one would like to find out what they are.
So what facts do we know about meta alloys?
META-ALLOY (in game description) -
Meta-alloys have a complex lattice structure with large internal voids. They are cellular in nature, and formed organically. They are incredibly strong - much stronger than foamed aluminium for example. Many elements form the structure so technically they are alloys, but the composition is different in different parts of the cell walls for strength. They are good thermal insulators, and have a high melting point, but if they are melted they lose all their special properties and become a conventional alloy. They are easily machined, but as yet cannot be manufactured, only found in space. They are associated with recently discovered alien entities nicknamed 'Large Barnacles' by interstellar explorers. These appear to be common in certain parts of space, although no-one is certain why. This material has been heralded as the next step in materials technology. It is ultra-light and stronger and more versatile than most commercially available alloys.
1. Where they are found - Ripe seed spikes, 2 for a healthy barnacle. We can see them easily with our MKI eyeballs but scanning with the SRV will also show when a meta alloy is detected.
Darnielles Progress in Maia. Only place as far as I know that sells them
Federal convoys in merope. They are not currently there, seems as if they are only showing up when the barnacles are producing meta alloy.
2. What do they look like? - As shown in the image above, they are a bright, luminous green with black edges and tips when on the seed spikes. Once they are scooped they go into a cargo canister, and that is how they stay.
The seed spikes have multiple stages of the pods on them, small closed dull pods, larger closed green glowing pods, then the largest open pods with the meta alloy.
The pods have an odd symbol on them, and a bumpy (for lack of a better word) texture.
3. What are the known effects? - So far, the only use discovered is to counter the corrosive effects of the UA in stations.
4. What possible uses/interactions can be safely ruled out? -
Holding meta-alloys does not prevent damage caused by a UA to our ships.
Holding Meta-alloys and being scanned by a UA does not appear to have any effect.
Dumping meta-alloys on planets does not appear to have any effect.
Selling copious amounts of Meta-alloys to stations does not appear to have any effect, except for the aforementioned counter-effect to the UA corrosion.
Taking meta-alloy to different engineer bases does not appear to have any effect.
5. What else can we try using the tools we have in game? - I'm pretty stuck with this personally, which is why I need different opinions and perspectives. Are the hinted at undiscovered uses something a commander can do? Or is it just a hint to something in the future we currently have no control over such as meta-alloy hull, meta-alloy lasers, any meta-alloy engineer blueprints? I tend to lean towards a use we can achieve ourselves in game currently, but it is pure speculation.
The fact they are found on "seed spikes" suggests to me that they are indeed a kind of seed. Those that know me know that all my dreams would come true if they were able to be planted and grow a barnacle (
Another thought I have yet to try is that the meta-alloys could be used for barnacle breeding. Take a meta-alloy from barnacle A to barnacle B and scan the seed spike? Many things to try and as yet no indication if it has any effect whatsoever.
In my opinion there is something we can do with these unique items. People have put a lot of research into Unknown artefacts and unknown probes, even the barnacles themselves. But as of yet we have not looked into the meta-alloys all that much.
Below is just a bit of a rant
Professor Palin has been researching these things and has a keen interest in them, which has given us access to the special cargo racks that allow us safe transportation of UA and UP. If he has found out anymore he isn't saying, which is actually a letdown to my personal immersion.
It would be nice if the engineers would have a bit more dialogue or interactions available. I get it, Elvira Marthuk wants me bad, the sexual innuendo is pretty full on haha but although her description says she is extremely interested in all things alien, she doesn't give a care that I have a cargo hold full of meta-alloys and UA's parked in her base. Not even the fact I am rank 5 with her seems to matter, except for a very slight change in dialogue ("my heart races when I see you" and "want me to work on that for you? The module commander..." pfft hehe me giggling like a school kid
It is very frustrating going there or to palin and reading them say how fond they are of me, knowing they have key information but not being able to get anything out of them. Surely after all the work I put into getting in their good graces earns more than an "attaboy"? Even if it were just like a tip-off mission but from the engineers, it would really help flesh out the lore and still requires effort to get to the stage where they would give them out.
Ok, so who has any ideas or theories about meta-alloys? And who thinks we should go lay down a siege on Palin research centre until he comes clean on what he knows?
I really think some of this (if not all) should be included in the FP about the barnacles.. just saying.
dynamicbob
Banned
the chemical structure is highly indiciative on both of petroleum / and other hydrogen/carbon type petrochemical strucutres, ie biofuels and the like
Is it? Well well well, every day is a learning day! Personally I'll just go with the fact they are both erm engineered
Just touching back on the CD-86 4 stuff, here's a shot of the factions:
Lurp Ship Systems has a homebase in Psi Octantis (given the system description which says "Home of LURP Ship Systems" or something to that effect). These guys are presumably inactive, they aren't even present there anymore, probably a forced retreat.
CD-86 4 Empire Party are the ruling faction, and are presumably procedurally generated with a name like that.
Other factions are also proc-gen, including the one out-of-shot at the bottom.
This leaves the nondescript "Imperial Party"... if that's a player-faction it's pretty poorly named and surprising it would be allowed, but there's nothing in Inara or, well, anywhere, about them. So either:
- Imperial Party are a player-faction, and put the description we see today, which would be pretty lax standards; or
- Description was for a PF which has been forced to retreat from the system, or
- The description is legit put there by FD.
I'm going to try a few things when i'm home from work tonite, but only limited. If nothing turns up, I'm done with this path.
Lurp Ship Systems has a homebase in Psi Octantis (given the system description which says "Home of LURP Ship Systems" or something to that effect). These guys are presumably inactive, they aren't even present there anymore, probably a forced retreat.
CD-86 4 Empire Party are the ruling faction, and are presumably procedurally generated with a name like that.
Other factions are also proc-gen, including the one out-of-shot at the bottom.
This leaves the nondescript "Imperial Party"... if that's a player-faction it's pretty poorly named and surprising it would be allowed, but there's nothing in Inara or, well, anywhere, about them. So either:
- Imperial Party are a player-faction, and put the description we see today, which would be pretty lax standards; or
- Description was for a PF which has been forced to retreat from the system, or
- The description is legit put there by FD.
I'm going to try a few things when i'm home from work tonite, but only limited. If nothing turns up, I'm done with this path.
Just catching up, and oh boy things move fast here XD
Anyway, looking at the sequence of 66 high/low and going to numbers,
l = high, - = Low
--l -ll --l --l --l l-l --l l-l l-- l-l l-l -l- l-- ll- -l- -ll --l l-- l-l --l l-l --l 1 3 1 1 1 5 1 5 4 5 5 2 4 6 2 3 1 4 5 1 5 1
Contrary to the "picture" in the audio, there is also |-| and ||-, which are not present in it.
Also, there are no --- nor ||| which is a feature similar to the first UA transmissions IIRC.
Before I go : I Wonder if the picture hidden in the audio is something similar to the circle frame from
the golden record as in : if decoded properly as per instructions, the first image is this.
Anyway, looking at the sequence of 66 high/low and going to numbers,
l = high, - = Low
--l -ll --l --l --l l-l --l l-l l-- l-l l-l -l- l-- ll- -l- -ll --l l-- l-l --l l-l --l 1 3 1 1 1 5 1 5 4 5 5 2 4 6 2 3 1 4 5 1 5 1
Contrary to the "picture" in the audio, there is also |-| and ||-, which are not present in it.
Also, there are no --- nor ||| which is a feature similar to the first UA transmissions IIRC.
Before I go : I Wonder if the picture hidden in the audio is something similar to the circle frame from
the golden record as in : if decoded properly as per instructions, the first image is this.
I know it is super lame to quote myself and I am probably severely biased to this idea but I still think this thing is worth a look. This was instantly buried last night after posting this but I would like to ask help from everyone here to determine if this is up to something.
So I ask you all to take 5 minutes of your time and record ambient sounds from different areas of the galaxy to compare and figure out if these ambient sounds can really help find systems like Merope. Debruys also suggested that direction one is facing can make a difference in that case, which expands this possibility to a greater level. If we can experiment and prove that ambient sounds can help us 'navigate' to areas of interest, this might help everyone find more barnacles and maybe even more UP's.
So I ask that wherever you are, just take 5 minutes, drop out of supercruise, move a bit away from stars, turn off music, turn off sensors and thrusters, crank up your volume and just listen and record. Then amplify the volume of the recording digitally (you can find online tools to do it instantly for you) and post the recordings so we can compare. Let us know in detail where you are in space, your distance to Sol and Merope or nearby spacemarks and also let us know which direction you are facing.
As Debruys suggested,
Also A spectrogram analysis would be nice if anyone can be bothered with it.
So I ask you all to take 5 minutes of your time and record ambient sounds from different areas of the galaxy to compare and figure out if these ambient sounds can really help find systems like Merope. Debruys also suggested that direction one is facing can make a difference in that case, which expands this possibility to a greater level. If we can experiment and prove that ambient sounds can help us 'navigate' to areas of interest, this might help everyone find more barnacles and maybe even more UP's.
So I ask that wherever you are, just take 5 minutes, drop out of supercruise, move a bit away from stars, turn off music, turn off sensors and thrusters, crank up your volume and just listen and record. Then amplify the volume of the recording digitally (you can find online tools to do it instantly for you) and post the recordings so we can compare. Let us know in detail where you are in space, your distance to Sol and Merope or nearby spacemarks and also let us know which direction you are facing.
As Debruys suggested,
considering the greatness of the level of sound design in this game, I think we might be up to something tangible here.
Also A spectrogram analysis would be nice if anyone can be bothered with it.
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This has been known about since shortly after the game launched, but is just nice sound design and has never been a clue. What you are looking at makes different noises be it the milky way, other galaxies, space stations etc there's loads of videos about the sound design on youtube
Try the difference between looking at an empty moon vs a elw etc.
Our clue is the information broadcast too it - we're unfocused enough as is
HI CMDR Zulu, while I am a little too far from where you are, I would suggest that taking some additional shots of neighbouring planets would help prove/disprove your theory, i.e. whilst time consuming, it would show that these marking are either intentional or a design characteristic of the underlying terrain model used to flesh out the topography of the landscape.
I agree with others, that it is too easy to dismiss something out of hand rather than to take it on-board and run with it, especially if it does not fit in with other related theories.
Keep your chin up, many a theory has been blown away due to an accidental and somewhat seemingly incidental find.
Stay and Fly safe.
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Isn't shooting down theories what science is all about...
"Constructive critical thinking"
As long as it's done with as little subjectivity as possible, yeah it is
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