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UI Hell in 3.3
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Thats not the point. FD never made an Interface Agreement with the maker of EDProfiler. Therefore the maker of EDProfiler has no leg to stand on if, for whatever reason, the color modding mechanism would change, seized to exist or stopped working at all.
No one but FD knows why the color config file is there. Someone found it, someone changed it and there the possibility was born. ED might have said, you may use it, but thats it. Now their code has changed and maybe the way to UI reacts unexpected to the color configuration mechanism, tough luck. If their intended functionality works as expected, fine. If the undocumented feature stops working there, well it was fun while it lasted, its not an acquired right of usage or anything...
I'm really enjoying how everyone in this thread pointing out that this is actually the correct behaviour based on the colours of the default UI are getting drowned out by people arguing about the semantics of what "modding" and "supported" mean.
You are right apart from the bolded part. As others already pointed out, it doesn't work unexpected. The text that people are referring to is blue in vanilla. Therefore it's orange when you are using a blue HUD.
Take a look at OPs screenshot:
Do you see the shields? They aren't blue as well. It's the same thing.
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Doh! That is bad news. Half of me had already hoped they could apply the same to the pips on the main scanner, enemies = red, friends = green, others may be colored whatever. That would solve many of the problems I have with alternative color sets like the N2O ones or Dr Kaii's Spiritual Teal (not my favorite color, but greatly increases the legibility in VR).
Unsupported or not, toning down the UI colors is the only way I can bear the overbright UI at all, in particular since 3.3.
O7,
[noob]
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There's a brightness control in panel 4.
In fact, it's a derivative work at best, as you're simply creating & adding another configuration file (GraphicsConfigurationOverride.xml or sth like that) that the game picks up. It's rather questionable if that is protected by IP laws at all, at least in Germany.
O7,
[noob]
Which, as the gamma slider, is far from being enough. I actually use the original colors, but using 0.9 on all channels instead of 1 and adding 0.19 green to the red one, because green is the color the Oculus likes best.
O7,
[noob]
Perhaps they should... it would put a stop to nonsense threads like this.
The issue (if you can call it that) is that FDEV gave the users access to the file as a sort of QOL control. The game is based on a fixed scheme, so isn't supporting 'modded' colours. FDEV have three choices..
1) keep things as they are (and resign to the fact that some players will complain)... Bonus settings are just that, a bonus.
2) prevent access to the setting / encrypt it, so the colours stay put, as FDEV designed the UI to be.. (and resign to the fact that some players will complain).
3) spend dev time in creating a UI customization option and properly implement this (and resign to the fact that some players will complain that dev time should be spent on more important stuff).
Either way someone will complain.
I personally see the ability to change RGB of various cockpit settings as a bonus. One which FDEV could easily remove.
1) keep things as they are (and resign to the fact that some players will complain)... Bonus settings are just that, a bonus.
2) prevent access to the setting / encrypt it, so the colours stay put, as FDEV designed the UI to be.. (and resign to the fact that some players will complain).
3) spend dev time in creating a UI customization option and properly implement this (and resign to the fact that some players will complain that dev time should be spent on more important stuff).
Either way someone will complain.
I personally see the ability to change RGB of various cockpit settings as a bonus. One which FDEV could easily remove.
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It just blows my mind that you good folks are even arguing against me. Forget about whether this is supported or not, either way it's a mess in the current state. Can we not agree upon that at least?
You talk about quality control, there is zero quality control on features that aren't officially back or support, merely tolerated. If it was a officially supported feature you would have a point, as it not, you don't.
I'm sorry, no easy way to say this; But.. You're guessing and pulling that drivel out of your bottom!
Let's do an experiment.. Go into the location where the Elite Dangerous executable is; In there you will find the config file. Now there is nothing anywhere to state or show, that Frontier Developments support the players changing that file.
However! If you open that file, lo-and-behold you will find;
<!-- If you are looking for the SSAA setting this has moved in to Settings.xml in the save directory
** typically: C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Roaming\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Graphics.
** If this file does not exist you can generate it by entering the graphics options screen in game
** and hitting apply. You can then add <SSAA>X</SSAA> when X is the SSAA amount (1 by default) -->
There are further entries (comments) showing other stuff too.
Now please, explain to me, why that is in there? Now me, I'm only 30 years a developer, so I'm just spiff-balling here; But I think it's to show the reader where and what to do... I could be wrong mind..
So, please, keep that drivel for your friends who'll think you're an expert.
That it is not supported is not the issue, and never was. What is the issue, is that some of the game uses it while other, newer parts don't. A really bad design choice, as it means they have to support two differing code bases. But hey, I don't work there, and I can't play the game much anyways, because guess what? The new lighting is a total mess in VR!! I now get migraine headaches if I play for anything more than 20 minutes. But that's my problem. I just think it's wrong that you spout that pulled out of a hat rubbish.
No, even then he wouldn't have a point because the HUD colour is behaving exactly as expected.
That's simply not true, at least not in the case that OP makes. The reason the text colour is orange in OPs screenshots is BECAUSE the HUD colour changing works, otherwise it would be blue like it is in vanilla.
(sigh...) Here we go again.
Actually, the phrase is 'spitballing'.
Indeed - you could be wrong. I could also respond with a condescending and sarcastic reply, but instead I'll just say that those file comments could equally be for the benefit of other developers, testers, analysts, etc... within FDev.
Then again, it could also be there for the public's benefit too. I don't think there is solid evidence either way.
Actually, the fact that it is not officially supported is *exactly* the OP's issue.
Nope. As other posters in this thread have already pointed out, it is precisely because the developers are using it that the OP mistakenly thought the colours were wrong. In fact, it is behaving exactly like all other UI elements in that the colours are changing according to the colour matrix the OP has defined in his override file.
This is a moot point, since we've already confirmed this isn't what's happening.
But even if it was, it is not necessarily a bad design choice if they are moving their design elements to a new colour palette system that properly supported colour schemes without distorting other essential UI elements.
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Why friends when I got customers paying me for it?
If you're such an experienced hot shot, I would of expect some solid arguments, instead you're using your experience as an argument. I got a foot long reproduction organ. Cool to know, but it adds as much to the discussion as you being a developer for 30 years.
To me it shows it does work unexpected for people using the color override. I'm not sure what you mean, but thats what I'm trying to say
I'm not using the color override, and I don't have any UI coloring issues.
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You lack of knowledge in so many fields is really impressive.
By the gods keep blabbering, it's almost ipnotizing.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHGAHAAHHAAHAHA
If you're a developer with 30 years of experience I'm a flying broomstick with an elephant snoot.
Bring your "expertise" to kids forums that believe that crap!