Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Arcanonn said:
Please do allow for different opinions all and do let people follow their theories through, to be honest the morse code stuff is beyond me and I have no idea if it's the right direction (although a fair few folks seems to be confident there's something in it). But what I can say is that if there's something to this we have previously missed it, odds are the actual answer has been dismissed at some point.
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In one case Whishblend had a typo in the name of a test star. QorbeQ found the correct splleing from the morse. This is my favorit piece of evidence :)

I'm not sure if this is correct but I would swear someone already tried this idea as I was very keen on it myself, I am lead to believe they just disapear in the end......again however this could theoretically been an error on behave of the CMDR that tried it so by all means DO try it again.

The lack of UA's is worrying to say the least. We only have one unverified possible sighting post 1.3
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Nilreb has followed the T9 over several stages. It will eventually drop out of Super Cruise and just disappear.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jmanis said:
So, putting my money where my mouth is: here's a selection of audio cuts which I believe makes up part of the "alphabet" for this (not all found yet, I don't have a UA so I can't produce more samples to get the whole alphabet). Please let me know if the links don't work.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

For clarity, I extracted the "O" sound twice, once from a He Bo recording, the other from a Ross 154 recording.

Ross 154 "o"
He Bo "o"

They're only very slightly different.

So, want to help?

There's two things you can do.
- Get recordings outside bodies containing different letters, which will help me complete the alphabet.
or;
- This is my "smoking barrel" shot. I've just created this audio cut, which I believe spells out EKURU A 1. To emphasise, this is not a recording of a UA, it is audio generated by me. If I'm right, and you have a UA, go to the EKURU system, outside EKURU A 1, and record the UA audio. I'm willing to bet they'll be almost the same.
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Excelent work Jmains.

Are these wav files available for download?

I'm trying to configure Morse View (http://morseview.sourceforge.net/) to translate the UA morse.
My brain is not the right tool for the job :-/
 

Grumbleweed

Grumbleweed
mrtree said:
I went back through all the GalNet posts I could find, looking for mentions of "alien", "relic", "unknown" or "artefact". For future reference, here's all the articles that match any of those terms.

* https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/e3650db48fcce4488905b3e13763eebad65735b8 - Soontill Auction
* https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/04-MAY-3301 - "Scientists Baffled by Mysterious Artefacts" (player-submitted)
* https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/07-MAY-3301 - "Arcanonn Challenges Halsey"
* https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/2ff0af566b06e051c2af52cd02a467351b449535 - "Soontill Relics Test Results Queried"
* https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/a817ba0a6348b4d65e6ca77a171aa300d2998ef9 - "Extraordinary Transmission Contesting Dr Arcanonn" (player-submitted?)

There are also a couple articles about unknown illnesses (like He Bo & now BD-02 4304), which may or may not be related.

Stupid question: I know this all started with "Unknown Artefacts are *NOT* Soontill Relics", but since they're maybe alien/crystaline, have we tried combining the UA with a Soontill Relic? Or taking the UA to the Soontill system (where the relics supposedly come from)? That's a super-tenuous stretch, but I feel like I have to at least ask.
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Thanks, but to save you and other commanders going through the same processes over and over, I have already added these to the wiki (gentle hint: read the first post where the wiki is linked!) ;)

I also marked the ones I know to be [player submitted], but I may have missed some. There really hasn't been much Galnet related to the UA which wasn't player submitted once you take that into account. Which makes me think that these 'really obvious clues' they have given us, aren't that obvious at all. The only exception I can see is the Wings Trailer and there are some potentially some juicy clues in there:

- As referenced earlier: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&p=2189874&viewfull=1#post2189874
- They taking the UA to Leonard Nimoy Station
- They are in California Sector HW-W C1-7 when Ishmael gets interdicted

(I'm not ignoring the morse thing, by the way, I just don't understand it and I can't hear well enough to be able to tell if its a thing or not.)
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Grumbleweed said:
Thanks, but to save you and other commanders going through the same processes over and over, I have already added these to the wiki (gentle hint: read the first post where the wiki is linked!) ;)

I also marked the ones I know to be [player submitted], but I may have missed some. There really hasn't been much Galnet related to the UA which wasn't player submitted once you take that into account. Which makes me think that these 'really obvious clues' they have given us, aren't that obvious at all. The only exception I can see is the Wings Trailer and there are some potentially some juicy clues in there.
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The Wiki is realy nice now. Thanks.

- As referenced earlier: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&p=2189874&viewfull=1#post2189874
- They taking the UA to Leonard Nimoy Station
- They are in California Sector HW-W C1-7 when Ishmael gets interdicted
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It has been mentioned several times that the extrapolated route from Nimoy to California Sector will lead to the "Dark Sector". I still think this is a interesting lead.

(I'm not ignoring the morse thing, by the way, I just don't understand it and I can't hear well enough to be able to tell if its a thing or not.)
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This is why I'm trying to configure a program to translate the morse code.
 

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camper

camper
Grumbleweed said:
Yep, as it says on the wiki linked in the first post, under 'Tests Done'

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_Artefact
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it is said there "They have been ejected into space", not "listened to". that's why I asked

Han_Zen said:
Yes. Check out the sync. test in the old thread.
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can you point to this certain message? there are 630 pages of everything.


my thought was may be 2 (3, 4, 8) artefacts together behave differently, like working as a network. may be they create similar sounds, though out of sync with each other, so combining the patterns together will give some clue.
 

QorbeQ

QorbeQ
I'm actually in a state of disbelief about the morse myself this morning after reading through the last couple of pages.

Not because it isn't there - but because of the weird, and oddly vociferent, "debunking" that seems to crop up for every little thing that gets discovered.

People asking for "proof" of the morse in the chittering? Really? Listen to it!

For some of the samples it's really not difficult to hear some of the clearer parts that I've pointed out in previous posts, even if you struggle with the rest of it - and I can't be the only one with ears!
 
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nilreb

nilreb
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Han_Zen said:
Nilreb has followed the T9 over several stages. It will eventually drop out of Super Cruise and just disappear.
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That was the result at the beginning as shown in the links.
Disappear is maybe only a lack of skill level/outfitting.
If a T9 go out of SC near a outpost he often fly not in outpost direction.

Meanwhile I use "A" rated sensors and try to be close at SC. So entering "wake" much faster.
In fact my gameplay right now. Follow convois. Also scan al lot at outposts, convoi beacons, USS/WSS/SSS.
The "Discret Redistribution" missions (shoot out "SAP 8") are in fact the successor for me (and well payed ...).
The targets spawn (for me: only if I take the mission) form T8 convoi (very easy) until "unsolvable" T9 with 6 Anacondas.
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T8 convoi with "SAP 8" only seen one time so far. [Edit 06.07.: Of couse T6 not T8 ...]
Usual it is a T9. And often they have balls of steel. So i will be well trained if the UA ever came back ...
I also follow T9 "Kumow Crew" convois and others until I have the T9 alone to scan and maybe engage (Marked Slaves).

What I can say (keep in mind my gameplay, no rule) I lost the most T9 if the jump to new system.
The game mechanic like to dive them direct in the sun or let them dive out of SC unreachable, because to near/in the sun.
But after 5-7 jumps/dives it ends mostly with a NPC interdiction. How to avoid? Primary target lost.
But the main target: "new UA" seems not willing to accure ...

For UA hunters (especial Arcanonn):
If you try it in "Solo" nobody can came in to help out if wished.
Better make a own group and start there. So if wished a other CMDR can help out/bring in new limpets, whatever ...
"Open" works also very well of course ...
Why loose options without need?


Edit #1: Of course T6 not T8 ... I leave it in red above. failure is failure
 
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QorbeQ

QorbeQ
Right - now that's said, time to throw wild theories about again :D

My colleague, who is the morse expert, said that he's good with these because he's spent years hearing CW morse coming through auroral distortion and the distortion in the chittering sounds similar to that.

The most likely thing is that it accidentally sounds similar to that type of RF propagation - I really suspect we've put way more thought into a lot of this than FDev did.

But, just for fun, what if one of the audio designers is a ham and deliberately did that as a clue... I can't think of a single thing that auroral distortion would indicate but I'm sure the conspiracy theorists can have a field day with that one :D
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
camper said:
it is said there "They have been ejected into space", not "listened to". that's why I asked



can you point to this certain message? there are 630 pages of everything.


my thought was may be 2 (3, 4, 8) artefacts together behave differently, like working as a network. may be they create similar sounds, though out of sync with each other, so combining the patterns together will give some clue.
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This: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=618&p=2474857&highlight=sync#post2474857

And the post abow it.
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
Yeah it's getting a bit annoying now, for the umpteenth time listen: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=6&p=2490413&viewfull=1#post2490413

There's also a bunch of letters extracted there if you're wanting to build a UA dictionary.

But saying that I do feel it's ing in the wind somewhat. I mean I think it's only a select few who haven't bothered listening for themselves that doubt it's morse, all a dictionary does is convince those people.

Still a needle in the haystack issue where potentially were looking for the only time it ISN'T the local body.

I still can't help feeling that if there IS more to solve then it's the purrs but I haven't the foggiest on those, and as said earlier they may just be meaningless.

On a related note I've spent literally all week at hunting UAs at 109 Virginis, Timocani, Ceos and Blatrimpe - nowt. I'm beginning to feel like it's a bit of a fool's errand.
 

QorbeQ

QorbeQ
bitstorm said:
Still a needle in the haystack issue where potentially were looking for the only time it ISN'T the local body.
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I personally think we're making a mistake thinking it's a tool to be used like that. Given the rarity of finding one, and the number of systems you'd have to painstakingly check, it's not very likely.

Has the "replacing a nav beacon" been tried yet? If that's done with no results (zomg thargoids!) then I'm into "it's just an object" territory - albeit an intriguing one - which currently has no in-game use other than a precursor of things to come; a story element which will undoubtedly be explained in due course.
 
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Gilmund

G
Just thoughts.
Did you try to honk nearby your UA ?
SAP 8 Container may need 8 UA to work, who knows?

When i look your UA videos, i see also a light around it (don't know if it's only the toxic thing, seems to happen when the UA sounds).

Any clue about the blue dots orbiting around the UA ?
 

Zenith

Zenith
mkten said:
@Zenith I'm up to 7 SSS now - way too strong for me, and a lot of them attack on drop. Not found anything remotely [Type9, Anacondas, Federal Navy]
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I think I went through 12 SSS and only a handful of USS/WSS to break the time up.
It helps being Allied to Federation because the ships show up as green, so that was my cue. Anything else had the situation assessed and immediate jump out if hazardous, or enough time to confirm the instance wasn't "the right one"

It could be that FDev have turned off UAs appearing again. It could be their rarity really is rare.
It could be b0rked in the same way some minor factions aren't handing out permit missions.
 

CMDR Boozeman

CMDR Boozeman
Jmanis said:
So, putting my money where my mouth is: here's a selection of audio cuts which I believe makes up part of the "alphabet" for this (not all found yet, I don't have a UA so I can't produce more samples to get the whole alphabet). Please let me know if the links don't work.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

For clarity, I extracted the "O" sound twice, once from a He Bo recording, the other from a Ross 154 recording.

Ross 154 "o"
He Bo "o"

They're only very slightly different.

So, want to help?

There's two things you can do.
- Get recordings outside bodies containing different letters, which will help me complete the alphabet.
or;
- This is my "smoking barrel" shot. I've just created this audio cut, which I believe spells out EKURU A 1. To emphasise, this is not a recording of a UA, it is audio generated by me. If I'm right, and you have a UA, go to the EKURU system, outside EKURU A 1, and record the UA audio. I'm willing to bet they'll be almost the same.
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Just Wow!

I like that! When we have all the alphabets recorded, someone can make simple web-based plain text to UA-generator that sounds your text in UA-morse :)

Those purrs. There are low and high tone purss. low is - and high is . Is there any messages on morse or just meaningless letters?
 
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