Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[RedWizzard]

Ok, we don't know if Thargs have something to do with the UA or not. It could be not Alien at all, or hybrid in some way, as pointed elsewhere (even if it really seems Alien to me, really, Alien and organic).
Someone somewhere said that a Developer pointed that Thargs use an octal system, because they have 8 fingers.
Can we take it in account while testing?

Is there a source for this "Thargoids use octal/have 8 fingers" idea? Because Drew Wagar wrote a good summary of the lore at http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/thargoids-the-definitive-guide/, and he doesn't mention that.

I think a lot of the connection between Thargoids and the number 8 is simply down to the the motherships having 8 sides. But Thargons, the drone attack ships, were not octagonal. Thargoids may have 8 limbs (according to one of the official novels), but we have 4 limbs and yet base-4 seems to be pretty rare among human societies.

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Aye maybe it is actually a space station for a tiny race of beings?

"What is this? A space station for ants?"

 

[Han_Zen]

The little green lights



Ok. I hope this picture is a bit better than the one from yesterday. This is from Mrtrees latest recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDgljhFWa8I&feature=youtu.be

The small panels, like the one I have "circled" light up in bright green. Both the rounded squares and the triangles seem to have this ability.
The lights never change during a recording (they may go on and of but it's always the same lights).
I think the lights differ from recording to recording, but I'm not entirely convinced. It could be reflections.
I have only seen lights on the two rows closest to the head of the UA.

I don't know if these lights affect the Purple/Green pulses or if they are a separate thing.
I have generally no idea what this is, since it's impossible to see in most videos.

 

[Han_Zen]

Is there a source for this "Thargoids use octal/have 8 fingers" idea? Because Drew Wagar wrote a good summary of the lore at http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/thargoids-the-definitive-guide/, and he doesn't mention that.

I think a lot of the connection between Thargoids and the number 8 is simply down to the the motherships having 8 sides. But Thargons, the drone attack ships, were not octagonal. Thargoids may have 8 limbs (according to one of the official novels), but we have 4 limbs and yet base-4 seems to be pretty rare among human societies.

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"What is this? A space station for ants?"

I don't know about the 8 thing. They are also in to hexagonal stuff it seems from this article:
"NEW ACADEMIC FORUM
M.C.S

Academics from Institutes, Academies and Universities in all three galactic powers have been invited to an Inter-Species Convention on the alien spaceship currently docked at [SyL1(A edge). Human speakers have been invited on a number of topics as widely divergent as [SlL2("modes of reproduction","linguistic development","Cybersex","low temperature engineering") and [SlL3("tabloid journalism between the species","mythical spacecraft up to and including the Mirage 1","trans-species eco-terrorism"). Alien lectures will be delivered on, amongst other topics: [SlL4("hexagonal mathematics","hexagonal aesthetics","the philospophy of hive culture","non-verbal communication") and [SlL5("Ant to Alien: the development of a species","'The Limitations of Light': Relativity Re-examined","Species interchange: A new look at the Paradigm Shift in experiential psychology","Challenge: the concept of the Ages").

Short communications will be presented between the main topics and static presentations are invited for the lecture area. Summaries and synopses should be available for scrutiny by [Dr(60,120). Those wishing to attend should contact the local Academic Council, Institutional Legislate or State Provost, as applicable."

The article is from FFE and the Aliens are infarct Thargoids. "Ant to Alien" hmm.

 

[bartmoss]

Is there a source for this "Thargoids use octal/have 8 fingers" idea? Because Drew Wagar wrote a good summary of the lore at http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/thargoids-the-definitive-guide/, and he doesn't mention that.

Thank you.

"Not only were the Thargoids themselves infected, but their technology, which was biological in its design, was affected too."

Emphasis mine. The UA looks very pseudo-organic to me.

 

[PsychoFish]

One short thought, that came to me and I wanted to share:

What if the UA is in fact a homing beacon and some indicators (like the pulses) are supposed to give a direction, BUT the target changes position. (Thus explaining the randomness.)

Maybe the UA tracks the thargoid invasion fleet and it's coming closer every moment. (dun dun dun)

 

[Cmdr Clade]

I f it turns out to be that simple, it would be funny.

Yeah....send F1 and get a message back saying... "this artifact is designed to.....To activate it you must.....other useful commands are....."

 

[rizal72]

Is there a source for this "Thargoids use octal/have 8 fingers" idea? Because Drew Wagar wrote a good summary of the lore at http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/thargoids-the-definitive-guide/, and he doesn't mention that.

I think a lot of the connection between Thargoids and the number 8 is simply down to the the motherships having 8 sides. But Thargons, the drone attack ships, were not octagonal. Thargoids may have 8 limbs (according to one of the official novels), but we have 4 limbs and yet base-4 seems to be pretty rare among human societies.

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"What is this? A space station for ants?"

No source unfortunately. I've just reported something I've read some days ago in this same thread, or the previous one. But the poster mentioned some Frontier Developer talking about that, perhaps during a stream or something. I'll try to find it anyway.
BTW, the tiny space station theory is far better then the 8 fingers one...

 

[Han_Zen]

No source unfortunately. I've just reported something I've read some days ago in this same thread, or the previous one. But the poster mentioned some Frontier Developer talking about that, perhaps during a stream or something. I'll try to find it anyway.
BTW, the tiny space station theory is far better then the 8 fingers one...

We should get a transcript of the Thargiod lecture. This part sounds interesting:
("hexagonal mathematics","hexagonal aesthetics","the philospophy of hive culture","non-verbal communication"

 

[Kulin]

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Ok. I hope this picture is a bit better than the one from yesterday. This is from Mrtrees latest recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDgljhFWa8I&feature=youtu.be

The small panels, like the one I have "circled" light up in bright green. Both the rounded squares and the triangles seem to have this ability.
The lights never change during a recording (they may go on and of but it's always the same lights).
I think the lights differ from recording to recording, but I'm not entirely convinced. It could be reflections.
I have only seen lights on the two rows closest to the head of the UA.

I don't know if these lights affect the Purple/Green pulses or if they are a separate thing.
I have generally no idea what this is, since it's impossible to see in most videos.

Here is also another example with a nice close up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxxZB9ytxQw

I think i can identify about 2 glowing "panels" at the last third of the video.

Very interesting.

 

[Han_Zen]

Here is also another example with a nice close up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxxZB9ytxQw

I think i can identify about 2 glowing "panels" at the last third of the video.

Very interesting.

Also these two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT6CVKclZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clbLEg3bk1o

In RedWizzards video I think there are 3 panels litt.

 

[Kulin]

Also these two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT6CVKclZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clbLEg3bk1o

In RedWizzards video I think there are 3 panels litt.

In this video by Ratking are very nice close ups, too(first begins at 6:20):

http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6899591

 

[RedWizzard]

Thank you.

"Not only were the Thargoids themselves infected, but their technology, which was biological in its design, was affected too."

Emphasis mine. The UA looks very pseudo-organic to me.

Thargoid hyperdrives are at least partly organic. FFE had stuff about them being infected with an engineered virus. So there has been some speculation that the UA might be a Thargoid hyperdrive. Though we should keep in mind that we don't have any really evidence that it is related to Thargoids at all, other than that it looks organic/insectoid.

 

[rizal72]

Ok, it has already been said but I'd like to point it out even better.
What is the UA? Look at it, remembering those concept art drawings that Han_Zen posted some posts ago.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=56&p=2519525&viewfull=1#post2519525
In particular the Cargo Pod Stacking thing.

For me the UA is a kind of DISPENSER of something, and it is something not good at all: those 12 pods are just waiting to be released or to release their content! And it is not a good content indeed, in my opinion.
Remember that the Human Race got rid of the Thargoids with a VIRUS. So it could be a Thargoid kind of revenge, or even better, it could be a specimen of the HUMAN VIRUS DISPENSER!
What it does? It transmit in morse code the nearest System or Station name.
Why? To ask for instructions: is it the system I have to "plague"? It is going on with its duty, waiting for instructions that will never come anymore. It is a LOST human VIRUS POD DISPENSER.
Look at those systems where a plague is spreading without any apparent reason. Perhaps something ACTIVATED one of those UA, and the VIRUS was released.
That's why we find them in a military convoy: because they are bringing it back home.

The only thing that confuses me is its strong "Alien look". That could make us think that it's simply an alien thing. So perhaps it is, or it was simply built like that to not make Thargs suspicious about it...

 

[Han_Zen]

In this video by Ratking are very nice close ups, too(first begins at 6:20):

http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6899591

That one is quite nice. A bit much external light to be ideal.
This could get complex. It seems to be several combinations on a single pod. Triangles lights up around the edge and the square light up completely.

It could also be utter nonsense, like most my ideas. I think we need a close up in a dark location to verify.

 

[Commandr Sam]

Still pushing the idea but with the description of the SAP 8 Core,

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Sap_8_Core_Container

Do the 12 arms on the UA not look like they are shaped for these crystals to be added.

Happy to help out (and video) this evening if you guys do manage to carry out this test.

In my mind this also fits in with the FD comments that if we gave any more clues it would make it too obvious.

 

[LordZoltan]

Ok, it has already been said but I'd like to point it out even better.
What is the UA? Look at it, remembering those concept art drawings that Han_Zen posted some posts ago.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=56&p=2519525&viewfull=1#post2519525
In particular the Cargo Pod Stacking thing.

For me the UA is a kind of DISPENSER of something, and it is something not good at all: those 12 pods are just waiting to be released or to release their content! And it is not a good content indeed, in my opinion.
Remember that the Human Race got rid of the Thargoids with a VIRUS. So it could be a Thargoid kind of revenge, or even better, it could be a specimen of the HUMAN VIRUS DISPENSER!
What it does? It transmit in morse code the nearest System or Station name.
Why? To ask for instructions: is it the system I have to "plague"? It is going on with its duty, waiting for instructions that will never come anymore. It is a LOST human VIRUS POD DISPENSER.
Look at those systems where a plague is spreading without any apparent reason. Perhaps something ACTIVATED one of those UA, and the VIRUS was released.
That's why we find them in a military convoy: because they are bringing it back home.

The only thing that confuses me is its strong "Alien look". That could make us think that it's simply an alien thing. So perhaps it is, or it was simply built like that to not make Thargs suspicious about it...

All very nice - but, I think this question would need to be answered first:

Why would thargoids, or any alien, transmit morse, based on the Latin alphabet, using the human name for a system? If Thargoid, we already know they had their own nomenclature for systems - so why wouldn't they use those names?

Edit

Okay so it's a human-made virus dispenser that targets the Thargs... That's more plausible...

 

[bitstorm]

I still say it hasn't been destroyed, just jumped / shifted a long way out.

Power surge in fsd sends ship further?

And perhaps if/when the mystery of the UA is revealed we will find Starship One, then it's Kerrash's big fanfare etc...

 

[Han_Zen]

Ok, it has already been said but I'd like to point it out even better.
What is the UA? Look at it, remembering those concept art drawings that Han_Zen posted some posts ago.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=56&p=2519525&viewfull=1#post2519525
In particular the Cargo Pod Stacking thing.

For me the UA is a kind of DISPENSER of something, and it is something not good at all: those 12 pods are just waiting to be released or to release their content! And it is not a good content indeed, in my opinion.
Remember that the Human Race got rid of the Thargoids with a VIRUS. So it could be a Thargoid kind of revenge, or even better, it could be a specimen of the HUMAN VIRUS DISPENSER!
What it does? It transmit in morse code the nearest System or Station name.
Why? To ask for instructions: is it the system I have to "plague"? It is going on with its duty, waiting for instructions that will never come anymore. It is a LOST human VIRUS POD DISPENSER.
Look at those systems where a plague is spreading without any apparent reason. Perhaps something ACTIVATED one of those UA, and the VIRUS was released.
That's why we find them in a military convoy: because they are bringing it back home.

The only thing that confuses me is its strong "Alien look". That could make us think that it's simply an alien thing. So perhaps it is, or it was simply built like that to not make Thargs suspicious about it...

It wasn't me that posted the concept art, but your theory is actually very good. It explains a lot of things:

- The UA scans to see if it's in the right place to release it's deadly cargo.
- The Mycoid virus has a strange side effect. It eats plastic. That is why it destroys modules.
- The UA self destructs after 5 min. if it is in the wrong place. That is a logical feature for a terror weapon.

The Mycid virus was manufactured by a sub company of Sirius Corporation and deployed by INRA. Non of them are likely to talk about it.
Maybe we should ask Winters. She used to work for Sirius Corporation.

Solid theory. Could still be wrong tho.

 

[Jacob Marshall]

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I still say it hasn't been destroyed, just jumped / shifted a long way out.

Power surge in fsd sends ship further?

FSD out as it explodes maybe?

EDIT:

If Starship One had a UA on-board and if the game-mechanics for that UA are the same as the one's you guys have found have we thought to try re-create what happened to SS 1?

 

[satrycus]

All very nice - but, I think this question would need to be answered first:

Why would thargoids, or any alien, transmit morse, based on the Latin alphabet, using the human name for a system? If Thargoid, we already know they had their own nomenclature for systems - so why wouldn't they use those names?

A few ideas:
1) It's trying to communicate with us in a way it thinks we will recognise.
2) It's a probe and it's intercepting human Morse communications.
2a) It's then recording this information as it's taken on a tour of human space for intelligence purposes, good or bad.
3) It's Thargoid technology but it's been programed by humans to deliver us a message (maybe from the pilot of the Argent's Quest).