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Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
bitstorm said:
I'm confused, why do you think that?
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As far as I can tell, Elite works on UDP :D

So lets try looking at these things from a UDP perspective. I've never seen one myself, and I've only seen some videos, but what happens when you take all these things as packets?

Probably complete nonsense, but perhaps worth a try?
 
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Jacob Marshall said:
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Guys, the UA is not communicating in morse.

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And even the nav is not transmitting a clean signal.
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Isn't it? How do you know that?

We've been told we're close, and Morse is about the only angle we have at the moment. If that's not right, then how are we close? "We're in the right Galaxy"?
 

Jacob Marshall

Jacob Marshall
bitstorm said:
I'm confused, why do you think that?
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Ok the Kerresh questions "is it blah blah morse?" Why would he ask that question? What's the motive?

a) Red Herring - If it was a red-herring...well to be honest I'm really not sure that would go down well with the community; could be wrong but I doubt it.

b) If it was the UA 'speaking' in Morse, why would he need to ask the question?

So, not accounting for the fact Kerresh may have suicidal tendencies, he would not ask for reason a) and there would be no reason to ask for b).

So, imo, it was a genuine input from Kerresh, hinting that all is not what it seems.

We know we're getting morse because we're transcribing it, no matter where we go we're able to read and understand Morse, but Kerresh has hinted that 'we know nothing Jon Snow'.

BACK:

I'm struggling to find the words but 'thanks'* to Kerresh I think we've heard Morse coming from the UA and come to the conclusion that the Morse is originating from it. We've not paid attention to the dirty great Nav Beacon blasting out like a pirate radio station and (possibly) interfering with the UA's signal.

How this would apply when there's no Nav Beacon...yeah hush I ain't sure but I didn't know the Nav Beacons broadcast in Morse, what don't I know about our own ADS or Scanner?

Another EDIT:

You mobile phone is near a speaker, and the speaker howls when you recived a call or text. What is the source of the speaker's howl?


*Yeah cheers mate, possibly making look like a loon.
 
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Saool

Saool
Hey folks,

Just wanting to throw in another idea. You have already discovered that the UAs transmit morse, and indeed this has now made the news. You also know they give off emissions that cause damage to systems.

Could the UAs be Mycoid virus dispensers?

The Morse is the 'probe' verifying it is in the 'right system' IE where Thargoids have recently believed to have been, and the design is Thargoid in nature as it needs to interface with their systems. Thus it is Thargoid-esk tech but human in origin?
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jacob Marshall said:
Kerresh asked if we're sure it's Morse.

Ok, the nav beacon. does it broadcast dits and dahs? Not those we've picked up via the stylised UA transmission, but the Nav beacon itself?

In light of Kerresh's question this could be important. If the nav beacon is transmitting Morse on a frequency and that frequency is interfering with the UA's signal then we are not seeing Morse 'from the UA', we're seeing signal squelch from the Nav beacon...I'm not sure if this makes sense.

I'm only raising this because of Kerresh...I find it hard to believe he'd throw the community a red-herring on this scale...

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Or, to paraphrase Rizal above, is it just repeating what it hears from the Nav beacon?
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Kerasshs comment "Are we even sure it's morse?" was a joke, Hi confirmed it a few posts later.

The UA transmits Morse codes in systems with no Nav, beacon and the name of planets (they have no Nav. beacon).

The UA Morse the name of unexplored planets and stars. It can not steal those names from our ship.

The UA scans the system it is in and Moreses the name of the closest body in range. There is no question about it.

The questions are:
- Why does it scan?
- What else does it?
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
Been in a phone deadspot for a while, guys, and just caught up.

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What Han_Zen just said ^^ :D

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1). The retransmitting of the system nav beacon can't be right, because close enough to a celestial body you get the name of that body from the UA - always - not the system name.
2) if you go into deep space, although I don't know if it's actually as soon as your ships says 'deep space' in the bottom left, I believe you get the system name from the Morse instead.
3) It is Morse, once you learn how to listen. Think of it as being like a human humming two-tone Morse while gurgling water.
4) The callsign idea is bloody clever... Now if only the rest of the purrs were reading as Morse letters clearly enough... I'm gonna jump on to my machine in a sec with some cans on and see if I can get anything more...

Pats on the back all round for this last few hours of collaboration, people, really great brain-dumping ;)
 
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DirkLarien

DirkLarien
Someone suggested something similar, but i havent heard any response nor found it on wiki.

UA container when ejected looks rather like it emanates something. Fog + sparkling.

That looks to me like it is extremely cold.
It would make sense if it is something HIGH tech.
Absolute zero -273.15° Celsius is fairly interesting thing in this regard.
At near this temp (we never really reached it yet) laws of physics get rather wild.
cooled matter gets into fifth state of matter liquids are superfluid (they literary flow out of your container :)
resistors become superconductive
...Its rather interesting topic. Worth to read about.

But back to the topic.
Have you tried to Heat it up a lot :) near star or just by shooting and having it in cargo hold so it heats up with ship ?

And most importantly

other way around.... it might not be exactly cooled enough.
Have you tried to help it ?
Cool it more - heat sinks and similar?
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Eegads so many SSs. =(

Braben, I know you're reading this.

Can you just add UAs to the shop please. I will happily pay £10 for one!

C'mon it's not as though they actually *do anything* is it? =p
 
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AEROassault

AEROassault
I don't think I've seen this suggested before, so I'll go ahead and do it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a while back Wishblend did tests on the color pulses of the UA, playing hot/cold with it. We know (think, almost positively though) it's using morse. What about optical telegraphy? Such as the color pulses?
 

BloatedPelican

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Has anyone tried to FSD somewhere while physically near the artefact? I was reading some of the galnet posts about ships vanishing due to possible failures in the FSD drive, could this be caused by the artefact? The wiki doesn't seem to have anything about this on it's tests, so excuse me if it's already been tried.
 

Vincent Starson

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I've been drinking and thinking maybe we should sacrifice a noob to the UA. Drop the UA and kill someone in a sidewinder next to it, that should work! Hahahaha!!!
 

Arconedas

Arconedas
If the UA is indeed transmitting its location or something like that... what about its alignment (it may have antennas it needs to point where its transmitting to) .. the direction its pointing in space?. Does it align itself back to the same direction if you bump it ...? If it does, maybe you could take it to different systems and work out the direction/Place its pointing to...
 

Spanksh

Spanksh
Arconedas said:
If the UA is indeed transmitting its location or something like that... what about its alignment (it may have antennas it needs to point where its transmitting to) .. the direction its pointing in space?. Does it align itself back to the same direction if you bump it ...? If it does, maybe you could take it to different systems and work out the direction/Place its pointing to...
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This theory has already been disproved. http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_Artefact See theories disproved "A compass"
 

Eoran

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bartmoss said:
Alright, I've started a Purr-Database:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mGAftHi6zlLNPFs1vUParJAMRwALnvzc1tR_K1vbMuI/edit?pli=1
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There seems to be an error/typo on sequence #6. I downloaded the mp3s from the link in the thread post (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=620&p=2477602&viewfull=1#post2477602) and this is what I get for #6 (1.3_differentposition_wishblend_sleipnir.mp3):

?|-''-'|--'--|-'-'-'|'-''-|-'--'-|''--'-|'--''-|''-'-'|'-''--|

The last 4 groups are tricky since there appears to be a purr that overlaps the very start of the howl. The 3rd to last was the one that I believe needs correcting, as that reported the code to be 101110 but I can't hear a sequence of 3 ones there, but rather 100110. It seems that way to my ear anyway, perhaps someone else can confirm?

Also the note about the purrs always being 5-6 in length is not strictly true, since there are recordings with groups 3 of purrs, such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqJTOgPrps&t=10m48s
 
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bartmoss

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Eoran said:
?|-''-'|--'--|-'-'-'|'-''-|-'--'-|''--'-|'--''-|''-'-'|'-''--|

The last 4 groups are tricky since there appears to be a purr that overlaps the very start of the howl. The 3rd to last was the one that I believe needs correcting, as that reported the code to be 101110 but I can't hear a sequence of 3 ones there, but rather 100110. It seems that way to my ear anyway, perhaps someone else can confirm?
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Thanks, yeah, it's entirely possible. I'll change it to your version.

Eoran said:
Also the note about the purrs always being 5-6 in length is not strictly true, since there are recordings with groups 3 of purrs, such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqJTOgPrps&t=10m48s
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Awesome ;-(
 
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