Update 14 and Beyond: Live and Legacy Modes

[Zaldo]

I'm wondering why PC Cmdrs always be that hateful against Console Cmdrs. It should be vice versa. We didn't stall "your" Odyssey release, you did steal ours! Keep in mind that PC version of odyssey got released first, while console version was only promised. The PC version was that crappy that - according to Bradens statement - it needed so much time and ressources to fix, so that fdev "needed" to cut console support to move on forward on their timetable. You'd got what was promised, we didn't!

It was also never said that consoles were unable to run codebase 4.0 due to hardware limitations. Apart from the fact that console versions are basically easier to maintain (just compare the limited number of base hardware versons of PS4 and XBox with the number of possible Hardware / Software / Driver Combinations on the PC side), it was a pure political decision to cut of console development. I hope this pays back for frontier one day.

Console players already feel cheated by frontier. Most of who I know boycott ED, and I can understand them.
But apart from that, console players are not second class commanders, we used to play the same game with the same community, just on another rig.

 

[thedoctor_500]

In protest or do you mean they killed console commanders there?!
(I suspect the former...)

Either way, that seems like a lot of effort to "suicide" out there!! ...

A few months ago I made my first long range trip, about 8,000 light years out and back and with the limited amount of time it takes me to play the game, it took me the best part of a month to get out there in the first place, so for me and I suspect many others, that seems like a rather big waste of several months time and effort (even if you use a fleet carrier), "just" to protest this companies' disappointing decisions, which they MIGHT go back on and "rescue" the "legacy" versions of the game (however unlikely that is!)

It was there way of saying goodbye to years of effort and time wasted on a game

 

[Clockdistrict]

I don't understand, you transfer now, don't play on pc for a year and then you have gone backwards?

Yes, you literally lose progress unless you start playing on the PC account immediately

 

[thedoctor_500]

I'm wondering why PC Cmdrs always be that hateful against Console Cmdrs. It should be vice versa. We didn't stall "your" Odyssey release, you did steal ours! Keep in mind that PC version of odyssey got released first, while console version was only promised. The PC version was that crappy that - according to Bradens statement - it needed so much time and ressources to fix, so that fdev "needed" to cut console support to move on forward on their timetable. You'd got what was promised, we didn't!

It was also never said that consoles were unable to run codebase 4.0 due to hardware limitations. Apart from the fact that console versions are basically easier to maintain (just compare the limited number of base hardware versons of PS4 and XBox with the number of possible Hardware / Software / Driver Combinations on the PC side), it was a pure political decision to cut of console development. I hope this pays back for frontier one day.

Console players already feel cheated by frontier. Most of who I know boycott ED, and I can understand them.
But apart from that, console players are not second class commanders, we used to play the same game with the same community, just on another rig.

He'll ya

 

[ethelred]

Yes, you literally lose progress unless you start playing on the PC account immediately

Rough times. I've not played in a couple of months but as a PC player my progress hasn't gone backwards.

 

[Felix DiCestria]

Will console carriers be duplicated in 4.0 with absolutely no way to shift them?
Will this effectively create orbital graveyards?

 

[thedoctor_500]

Rough times. I've not played in a couple of months but as a PC player my progress hasn't gone backwards.

No if u started on PC and did not transfer u won't lose progress

 

[Clockdistrict]

Rough times. I've not played in a couple of months but as a PC player my progress hasn't gone backwards.

You don't go backwards as a PC player, only if you're a console player who transfers now, then plays on console for a bit before coming to the PC CMDR.

 

[Rat Catcher]

The inability to "import" my Horizons 3.8 CMDR to Odyssey should I decide to upgrade to Odyssey someday in the future.

Just load H4 and it will exist in whatever state it is in currently....

 

[ethelred]

You don't go backwards as a PC player, only if you're a console player who transfers now, then plays on console for a bit before coming to the PC CMDR.

Ah right, so if you want a "full" xfer now Vs a "partial" xfer later there's a discrepancy in what is carried over. Gotcha.

 

[Riverside]

Since Horizons 4.0 doesnt use any kind of space legs.
What are system requirements fro Horizons 4.0, mainly storage space needed?

Same as Odyssey, they literally use the same installation files.

 

[GroG79]

Well I am sure we will make 42 pages!

 

[Cosmo]

Just put the newest version as "live mode" and all previous versions = legacy mode.

 

[MacHurto]

I have two basic complaints:

1. The end of CGs in Horizons 3.8. I understand not having CGs that are 4.0 exclusive content, but is Frontier abandoning all ship trading and bounty hunting CGs in Odyssey? If not, why not mirror those same CGs over on Horizons like they've been doing? Surely it can't be that hard to copy-n-paste some text and settings.

My guess is that the Bubble will look very different after U14

 

[Rat Catcher]

My guess is that the Bubble will look very different after U14

 

[amigacooke]

It really does make sense why they are separating the two galaxies. I just wish they would let someone, even the janitor, throw together simple CGs for the 3.8 servers. Hey Frontier, give me access to your 3.8 CG portal, I'd be happy to volunteer as CGM

It makes sense for Windows players, it makes sense for console players once Frontier decided to cease development on those platforms. It makes no long term sense for the console platforms, it's a death sentence sold as a benefit.

 

[thedoctor_500]

Let us all say fdev don't give a duck weather we play on as long as they make there money and do what they want a they don't want to.listen to the.people.who actually play the game when.they are live they play on there own.servers or in permit locked system that they have with no bugs or crashes so stop the petty arguments and let all say fdev don't care

 

[CMDR Jon Targaryen 47]

I'm "upset"(filters won't let say what I'm feeling)" they gave us less than a week for us to prepare for the splitting into two "modes" I understand the need to do this but more notice, like a month, would have given me enough water to swallow this pill. Are ya with me on this. Jerk move fdev.

 

[amigacooke]

Well, considering they canceled development on consoles more than 6 months ago, I don't think you can use that excuse anymore. But sure, after this update, any failure can't be blamed on consoles anymore.

Want to bet!

 

[amigacooke]

Maybe they are moving 8 entire star systems, they seem very bright and big when seen in game..

Perhaps they are entire galaxies. Elite had 8 seperate galaxies if I remember correctly