At least you're not being too negative about it...
Yeah, I've been trying to apply for one since before Christmas but the application system is broken, which was confirmed to me by support, and would be fixed in the coming weeks. Which is irritating since I found the PERFECT system with six native non-PMFs and one non-native, did the work to force out the non-native, and it was sitting there for months while I repeatedly checked the application system. Eventually another PMF expanded in there, and now it looks like that's that.
That's a bit of a superficial take. I highly doubt that it is that Frontier have no idea what to overhaul, but that Frontier haven't finalized what they plan to overhaul. I imagine that assessments need to be made on how much work one thing is compared to another, and how much impact it would have etc.
Just saying, PMFs are very likely presenting a serious issue/complication with thargoids war mechanism due now existing possibility to fully wipe out all factions from a system. Before was impossible remove native MFs from a system and in PMFs case it makes things even worse due expectable players protests. Its very likely possible to program AI to avoid systems with local native pmf, but it may create numerous unexpected issues. Rework of PP makes in this regard perfect sense.
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Maybe U15 will add the mechanisms for PMF "owners" to re-home a PMF that's in the way of a Maelstrom expansion?
It fits into the "never seen before in Elite" mantra
Honestly, that's what my initial interpretation of what they're saying is. It's possible that Frontier want to open up more space for colonization but the current system they have for PMF doesn't allow for it. If that's the case, then it's natural to wind that feature down to implement the more flexible one.
Yeah, the devs are so enthralled by the Thargoid saga that they just have to stop work to view it all.. :-/ You don't think they mean the development resources that have gone into making the Thargoid War happen in the game? Including that of what's required for Update 15? No, of course not, that would be too objective of an observation..
With all due respect to your work, this update announcement to say nearly nothing with many words.
And even if, for whatever reason, you couldn't, wouldn't, shouldn't write anything about the expected "Major Feature Rework". Please give a status report on points that have been open for months. I repeat myself when I start again with the buggish CQC maps and all the other bugs in this game mode. So far again not a single word in the announcement.
Communication with you guys has been a recurring theme over the last few years. Yes, you communicate more now. But please say something with content!
The factions are suspended rather than destroyed - they return if the system is retaken. Several PMFs have already lost their home systems to this - and without checking to make sure I'd be very surprised if there weren't some smaller ones in a fully suspended state by now. (Well, people were asking for a way to remove dead PMFs, right?)
The bubble is already too large (far too large!) for any purpose other than "every PMF can have its own 10/20/50/100 systems". Without some very substantial reworking (i.e. not soon even if it is their plan) so that colonised systems have to be actively maintained to avoid collapse it'd just be creating thousands more systems that no-one ever visits except briefly when the nearby PMF expands, takes control, and never sees it again.
You kind of answered your own question...did the Thargoid war just happen spontaneously or did they, I don't know, maybe plan it out? If it was planned out, as one would suspect happens in development, then it's poor planning to do a major rework AND a major narrative. No one asked them for a rework, they brought it up themselves.
Edited: This is all really a moot point. No one knows what is in the rework so there's no excitement for it (from what I can tell).
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It's truly whatever anyone wants to think it is. Like I said, objectively speaking; Unexpected ≠ Poor.
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Bless you, you sweet summer child.
FD just pull some random thing out of the bag each time - remember when we wanted an overhaul of various placeholders and got CQC?
I completely agree with you. What's sad is that the same player base has more intentions for ED to grow and develop, than the very developers that are leading to ED's downfall.
The interiors of the ship carrier are recycling of odyssey bases (I like), the lighting and other things are things that were never necessary, nobody wanted them, nobody asked for them, and they are not so complicated to execute at all.
I love the universe of Elite and will no doubt continue to play ED from time to time; there is still nothing to touch it in terms of scale and I expect that's a crown it might well hold forever since I doubt another game developer will ever attempt to simulate an entire galaxy. But despite the 40 year history I have with this franchise, I increasingly find myself wondering whether my space-sim itch will soon be scratched by something else. I'm drawn to Starfield most obviously, but also Spacebourne II which is rough around the edges but seems to embody that single-creator (or small team) vision that was core to the success of David Braben' and Chris Roberts' earlier works.
This latest communication from FD, especially the "rework" update full of verbs and nouns signifying nothing, just seems to underscore how far ED now is from that early vision. To reemphasise: none of this should be read as a slight on what the team has already achieved in terms of scope, audio-visuals and sheer immersion. There are many amazing things that ED does with near perfection. But the project as a whole feels increasingly stagnant and corporate, less the culmination of a four-decade vision and more like a cash cow resting on its laurels.
Maybe it's just me, as I will freely admit to not being engaged in many of the game's aspects (Powerplay, Thargoid War) that used a lot of development resources in their implementation. But judging by the responses in this thread I suspect not.
Don't be sad, play legacy, they've finished it so nothing to expect or be let down by. Space is a better experience there anyway, its hard to accept live until they fix it to at least the same level.
That really sounds like old Fdev again. Next week they will probably tell us that they hear us and they promise to up their communication game.
Hey @Fdev: We need a proper road map for the game we all love and play! Don't spoil the upcoming narrative, but tell us what technical bugs you are working on and what we can expect from the game in the next two years.