None, it was clearly stated mutliple times that the major feature rework has been put off for later in the year.
None, it was clearly stated mutliple times that the major feature rework has been put off for later in the year.
Major Feature Rework
Last year we announced a major update that would rework a long standing feature. This is still being investigated, however a number of changes (not least the Thargoid War itself) have required our attention as a priority. We will share details of this investigation and our plans towards the end of this year.
Beat me to it, was updating my post at the time lol!
Total power move not only did they put off the rework, they put off even saying what the rework was going to be in the first place.
I do feel that fdev should get a break from the vitriol over this ‘major feature rework’. The thargoid war is a significant piece of work (which I enjoying immeasurably), which we’ve been receiving for Free. You don’t even have to buy Odyssey to play over 95% of it. I know there are people who say that they don’t find thargoid combat interesting, but they’ve made enough non combat ways to contribute to the war. I see a lot of lazy comments about the thargoid war just being recycled content, but there are plenty of new scenarios in there, but you have to go looking for it.
As far as the new rework, I’m beginning to think that it will be a rework of the BGS to integrate Powerplay into it. The reason I think this is a lot of the other functionality is about 95% of the way there. For example, Engineering needs an easier way to get lots of mats (especially on foot) to cut down the grind. Crime and punishment needs a better way to deal with player killers and a couple of the discrepancies between on foot bounties and ship bounties. Multi-crew needs the gunner role sorted out. (I don’t think we’ll ever get the fixes that cqc needs).
But messing about with the BGS, that’s a huge amount of work.
As far as the new rework, I’m beginning to think that it will be a rework of the BGS to integrate Powerplay into it. The reason I think this is a lot of the other functionality is about 95% of the way there. For example, Engineering needs an easier way to get lots of mats (especially on foot) to cut down the grind. Crime and punishment needs a better way to deal with player killers and a couple of the discrepancies between on foot bounties and ship bounties. Multi-crew needs the gunner role sorted out. (I don’t think we’ll ever get the fixes that cqc needs).
But messing about with the BGS, that’s a huge amount of work.
It's another rod Frontier have made for their own back.
That’s been true in the past, but when you look at the content involved in the thargoid war, I don’t feel the vitriol is justified in this case.
That’s because you’re interested in what’s replaced the “major feature rework” some of us have were looking forward too.
So just before people were expecting the rework to be dropped and we get ohhh we haven't even even looked at that yet ( 1 year later) why not keep us updated ? Surely they knew after the many fixes and improvements that they weren't going to get there with the rework . But again left it to the last moment oooppsie our bad .
The Thargoid narrative is a basic BGS really . But with fdev fiddling the numbers. Oh look a new enemy, I know here is a new module to help but we need this and this and this. Wow never seen this happen before ?? rinse and repeat. In the end the triumphant humans will win the day cos we are the good guys ?? Aren't we ??
The Thargoid narrative is a basic BGS really . But with fdev fiddling the numbers. Oh look a new enemy, I know here is a new module to help but we need this and this and this. Wow never seen this happen before ?? rinse and repeat. In the end the triumphant humans will win the day cos we are the good guys ?? Aren't we ??
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The issue is Frontier's errant judgement in what they can achieve within a certain time frame. The players didn't decide what was achievable, Frontier did and missed their own target.
@sallymorganmoore Does he mean "all" players( console as well ), or just the ones on p.c. ?
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I don’t see the thargoid war as a replacement, all I’m doing is acknowledging that there is a lot of effort which has been put into the thargoid war which I don’t feel is being taken into account when the people discuss the major rework. I expect that the feature rework will happen, but I hope it’s not just another rework of engineering.
See above point. There are some things that you can’t plan for when you make plans more than a year in advance. Maybe key developers left and a new team has to learn the code to catch up, which is why we’re seeing new faces on live streams these days, or (and I expect this is the case) that they’ve decided to expand the thargoid war content to round it out properly and not rush it. If they’d done that then we’d have the usual issue of fdev getting to 95% and then walking away. I prefer to have content that feels complete, not another powerplay, multi-crew or CQC.
That is, according to you the war with the Thargoids will be finite and not turn (roughly) into a PowerPlay. As soon as humans learn how to destroy the Titans from the other side 3 more will come.
The problem appears to be that this isn't an occasional problem when it comes to ED, it's systemic.
Some complaints are rather "systemic" too.. 
As are the responses to themSome complaints are rather "systemic" too..
We are all creatures of habit, after a while it is much easier than actually thinking about stuff.As are the responses to them
I completely concur. -it is plain as day that they've been working hard on this chapter all around and i have a notion it is not quite done yet.
They need to make sure the current course is good and let players acclimatize to the "new normal" while also not rushing it.
-them taking their good time to deliberate how to approach a major rework is not only sound, it is healthy.
Replace "America" by "places around the world" and "us" by "all of us"
→ "Bad news for all of us who are in rural places around the world where Internet sucks."
My today's complains against Internet providers
Anybody else want to play a 'geoguessr" game ? I've read the 47 pages and saw "I want X" again and again. I know this is a long standing key feature but I doubt Frontier will overhaul players.
So here's the idea let's try to let our feelings out of the game and try to guess. I've taken notes about all I read, added a few I could think about and now put K and L for what I think are Key features and Long standing features. Would you also put K and L to see what we think about them ? Feel free to add new features if it's not in the list. We might find all "LK" features that may be reworked not only the ones we want or would not want to see reworked and maybe find "Neo"
Note : I didn't put K on features I don't use and some I never used even with /played > 2000h . I thought they aren't key features as I can play without them while doing key activities (trade, "solo" missions, mining, bounty hunting in ship and on foot, etc.).
L Wings
L Multicrew (telepresence and physical)
L Community Goals
L External camera
L Powerplay
LK Route (Is waypoint a new key features or could be considered a rework ? IDK)
LK Player Minor Factions
L CQC
LK BGS Faction influence and status
LK BGS Commodity market
LK BGS Ship fitting market
LK Missions
L Squadrons
LK Planetary landing
LK Game modes (Open, PG, Solo)
LK Normal Flight model
LK Supercruise Flight model
LK Fitting eg I read sthg about Gimbal with SC using a one-class-less instead of less-damage)
they looked at what to rework and have come to the conclusion that all major features are so janky that they need a major rework, therefore they can't decide what to start with. and i don't blame them. that's true for software development in general, but especially so for elite, which has like a decade of development entopy in its codebase.