Updated Permit List

Just checking. I assume this'll still be locked in Beta as well, but noticed from the list that all of COL 70 SECTOR and several systems in the Horsehead / Bernard's Loop are still locked. Wonder if that'll change when 2.4 goes live.
 
You just have to check. They seem to be pretty random. I just remember traveling in the area a while back and seeing a bunch of systems getting in the way of route planning and so forth.
 
I made the same experience back in March. At that time, Uniting 4 Sextantis was also present in Akin Relay, but they did not offer the permit mission, either. My speculation at that time was that the permit is either given out by "4 Sextantis Jet Dragons", who are not present outside 4 Sextantis, or is broken somehow.

I just visited Akin Relay in 2.4 beta, and of the three factions that have 4 Sextantis as their home system, only 4 Sextantis Inc is present at Akin Relay, and they do not give out the permit mission.

Aha, good to know, thanks. My feeling was that 4 Sextantis Jet Dragons were the most likely to give out the permit, if for nothing else than it follows convention with Crom Silver Boys and Terra Mater Brotherhood.
 
Which systems in Barnard's Loop are permit locked? There were none locked when I visited them all last year. Thanks!

Systems actually in Barnard's Loop probably aren't permit locked, or most of them aren't, but to get to Barnard's Loop, you have to pass through the Col 70 Sector and most of the systems there are permit locked. You can go around/over/under but it's a real pain to find your way back again. At least it was for me. Still earned about 40 million credits worth of exploration data.
 
I made the same experience back in March. At that time, Uniting 4 Sextantis was also present in Akin Relay, but they did not offer the permit mission, either. My speculation at that time was that the permit is either given out by "4 Sextantis Jet Dragons", who are not present outside 4 Sextantis, or is broken somehow.

I just visited Akin Relay in 2.4 beta, and of the three factions that have 4 Sextantis as their home system, only 4 Sextantis Inc is present at Akin Relay, and they do not give out the permit mission.

I allied with Green Party of HIP 48025 and HIP 48165 Industries, just in case they gave the permit, but nothing doing (it looks like you already checked them in 2.2).
 
Which systems in Barnard's Loop are permit locked? There were none locked when I visited them all last year. Thanks!
You just have to check. They seem to be pretty random. I just remember traveling in the area a while back and seeing a bunch of systems getting in the way of route planning and so forth.

Yeah, from the bottom of the first post of this thread:
Horsehead Dark Region https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=254212
Several stars in the Bernard's Loop Area are also permit locked
So, it's pretty "hit-n-miss" for them.

Systems actually in Barnard's Loop probably aren't permit locked, or most of them aren't, but to get to Barnard's Loop, you have to pass through the Col 70 Sector and most of the systems there are permit locked. You can go around/over/under but it's a real pain to find your way back again. At least it was for me. Still earned about 40 million credits worth of exploration data.

Yup, that's pretty much the story.

Bernard's Loop / Horsehead was my second trip into the black and I was using a Cobra MK III before engineers came into being so I might have missed them just by chance but you just have to want to go somewhere out there and bump into them to notice which ones still happen to be locked. I'm wondering (again) if this status will change once 2.4 drops.
 
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Nastrond

I'm currently building rep with the Defence party of Nastrond to get the permit.

Because the Defence Party of Nastrond have no stations and no current conflicts I've been doing things the slow way with missions. But, they have just gone into a War pending state with Daruwutja for Equality in Daruwutja. This means that conflict zones and massacre missions will soon be available. I'll have probably got to allied status before the war starts. But if anyone else is after the permit it will be worth getting down here in three days time to get involved in the conflict.
 
Nastrond

I'm currently building rep with the Defence party of Nastrond to get the permit.

Because the Defence Party of Nastrond have no stations and no current conflicts I've been doing things the slow way with missions. But, they have just gone into a War pending state with Daruwutja for Equality in Daruwutja. This means that conflict zones and massacre missions will soon be available. I'll have probably got to allied status before the war starts. But if anyone else is after the permit it will be worth getting down here in three days time to get involved in the conflict.

It would be nice if player groups actually adopted some of the permit granting factions.
 
Man, i jusy visited VY canis major and i decided to go to bernards loop and was surprised to find it locked. So now im just trying to go to orions nebula and most of the systems are locked as well. Im like ??? So now i gotta find other sights to see while im out and about.
 
Man, i jusy visited VY canis major and i decided to go to bernards loop and was surprised to find it locked. So now im just trying to go to orions nebula and most of the systems are locked as well. Im like ??? So now i gotta find other sights to see while im out and about.

Bernard's Loop is not locked, though systems around it are. Or are you saying systems there are locked? In which case please name some...

Usually possible to get through with a bit of thought.
 
Bernard's Loop is not locked, though systems around it are. Or are you saying systems there are locked? In which case please name some...

Usually possible to get through with a bit of thought.

I dont think bernard loop is locked, but getting to it is very difficult when the surrounding systems are locked.
 
Hey OP! Can we get the mention of Bernard's Loop off the FP? It seems to repeatedly attract people telling how it's locked, followed by posts saying it's not - seems to be causing 'un-useful' behaviour. Or at least fix the spelling to be Barnard's ...
 
I'm having issues getting the Luyten permit. I've reached allied with Luyten 347-14 Prison Colony, but I've not seen any permit missions. Is there a reason I'm not getting the permit?
 
I'm having issues getting the Luyten permit. I've reached allied with Luyten 347-14 Prison Colony, but I've not seen any permit missions. Is there a reason I'm not getting the permit?

Which system(s) have you looked for the mission in? Usually needs to be within 15Ly of the locked system - so Ross 780 / Fomalhaut probably wouldn't work. I have the permit, so it is possible - maybe try visiting more systems where they have a presence - they don't necessarily pop straight away. Also a relog is always worth a try
 
Which system(s) have you looked for the mission in? Usually needs to be within 15Ly of the locked system - so Ross 780 / Fomalhaut probably wouldn't work. I have the permit, so it is possible - maybe try visiting more systems where they have a presence - they don't necessarily pop straight away. Also a relog is always worth a try
+rep, thanks!

I didn't know the 15 ly restriction and had tried multiple ports in Fomalhaut. Just flew over to LHS 3531 and it popped up right away.
 
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