Victims of Piracy Support Group
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Get some escorts. Even 3 Sidewinders can be more than annoying to the Clipper. Or at least team up with other traders. One Clipper can attack and lock one trader at a time, so the others may escape. This lowers your chance of being ganked from 100% to 25%. Good old convoy tactics.
NPC pirates will not attack you if you have empty holds. Always have one ton of something in your holds if you go to pirate hunting.
Oh, and I use my Viper to hunt player Anacondas and Clippers. Downing their shields and watching them run to SC is priceless.
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Weirdly even the NPC pirates just try to kill you if you haven't got any cargo.
Psychos, the lot of 'em!
Whenever I pirate someone I always think its a good measure to kill them afterwards. Mind you I don't prey on small ships as the owners don't have the money for fancy cargo.
I have an X-55, and a TrackIR4. You win: 60-59. I submit, show mercy.
many people use controllers, no head tracking, and no voice commands, this can help decide the fate of a battle, that is the reason why I put that in there.
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Well you know, if you don't play the game there are some distinct opportunities. I spend most of my time trying to get killed as quickly as possible by pirates. Hell they want to kill me after I've cut and pasted exactly what I'm going to do to their mothers after they've hailed me looking for cargo (that I don't have). I've even had a couple wait around for me, so they can kill me again.
I love that. It means I've got to them. They want to physically punch my lights out and all they can do is pew, pew, pew.
Name one other situation where you can wax lyrical about doing horrifically viscerally invasive things to a complete strangers parent and not have your own teeth fist posted down your throat? Gotta love the internet. (Oh no you blew up another of my infinite free ships, would you like to know what I'm going to do to your daddy now hot shot?)
I love that. It means I've got to them. They want to physically punch my lights out and all they can do is pew, pew, pew.
Name one other situation where you can wax lyrical about doing horrifically viscerally invasive things to a complete strangers parent and not have your own teeth fist posted down your throat? Gotta love the internet. (Oh no you blew up another of my infinite free ships, would you like to know what I'm going to do to your daddy now hot shot?)
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Piracy pays, in the right system of course. You want a place people head to when looking to sell their gold or other precious metals. Of course if you're going to be a bandit expect to get brutally murdered occasionally.
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In two days of solid pirating I have accumulated about $800,000 profit after repair, fuel and ammunition costs from selling stolen wares on the black market in my viper. I haven't died once. The bounty on my head is currently $300,000.
That is why pirating is not viable. You made 500k/2 days. I suspect you played more than half an hour.
You can do 1 mil/hour trading or bounty hunting in RES. Hell, I can make 500k/hour from combat bonds.
So if you played something other than pirate, you would have made around 5 mils or more.
And killing the target after it dropped is NOT a good idea. Consider that you are the sickness. If you kill the host body, you, too, will die. A pirate, like a sickness, needs traders to exist. If you kill them after drop, they will stop dropping and that cuts your revenue. They will go to different system, which will cut your revenue even more.
Kill those, who don't comply. They deserve it. But those who do should go free because you need them alive and trading.
You can do 1 mil/hour trading or bounty hunting in RES. Hell, I can make 500k/hour from combat bonds.
So if you played something other than pirate, you would have made around 5 mils or more.
And killing the target after it dropped is NOT a good idea. Consider that you are the sickness. If you kill the host body, you, too, will die. A pirate, like a sickness, needs traders to exist. If you kill them after drop, they will stop dropping and that cuts your revenue. They will go to different system, which will cut your revenue even more.
Kill those, who don't comply. They deserve it. But those who do should go free because you need them alive and trading.
He attacked you because you were robbing him and he would prefer to die than let you get his cargo. You had the choice to leave he would not have been able to chase you.
Oooh sorry for wasting a few KBs of data on YOUR server.
Firstly : I will post whatever the hell I like within forum rules (and occasionally just outside but I'll wear the infraction). If you don't like it, move on nobody asked you.
Secondly: This thread was never about complaining and definitely not about game mechanics. You picked one post which was in direct response to a whinging pirate.(a post I may add that has no mention of anything to do with game mechanics -??dunno weird)
This thread only started to become about game mechanics when it got hijacked by the poor diddums little pirates who complain about how even the weakest among us still fight back instead of rolling over and letting them do as they will.
Right now as far as I am concerned this thread has become about rallying IN GAME support for antipiracy. I am NOT talking about game mechanics. I am not interested in changing code or nerfing anything. I am talking about rallying support for things like trading escorts, trade guilds, vigilantism.
The only thing that I would suggest in changing code is that we be aloud to scream obscenities at pirates while they are robbing us without getting in trouble.
Maybe learn to read? dunno pills maybe?
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I made a 2.3 million cr last night in 2 hours defending miners in resource zone. You don't pirate for the money.
There's a saying dunno involves backs , rain , urine.
We talk about 1k worth of Scrap, literally. He had shields down and faced a way superior opponent. He knew hes only option for survival was to leave. I took the time and told this to him. Yet he still charged and died before he could could fly past me.
Mike Tyson stops you in dark alley, takes 10 bucks from you and then tell you to go away. Only a lunatic would take on Tyson and try to knock him out to get that 10 bucks back. A sensible man would say a prayer for the cheap escape.
I, too, want to rally traders to organize in OPEN mode. 1.2 finally gave the proper tools for traders to defend themselves. Since 1.2, only cowards should play in solo or closed. Plus people with crappy net, but that is different.
Mike Tyson stops you in dark alley, takes 10 bucks from you and then tell you to go away. Only a lunatic would take on Tyson and try to knock him out to get that 10 bucks back. A sensible man would say a prayer for the cheap escape.
I, too, want to rally traders to organize in OPEN mode. 1.2 finally gave the proper tools for traders to defend themselves. Since 1.2, only cowards should play in solo or closed. Plus people with crappy net, but that is different.
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Wether you like it or not... Pirates are not dumb... they use whatever equipment and tactics maximizes their chances of success, naturally
An "honorable" pirate will let you go, if you don't have anything of value. Maybe the guys you met were just lunatics disguising as pirates. This said, I agree that murder should be punished more severely.
An honourable pirate would not be a pirate.
Clearly you are quite a good pirate, but I can make that in 15 minutes in a RES.
As for checking out the right systems, I've been trying a bit of piracy the last few days just to see if it's improved since I started. I've caught two guys today with palladium, one logged off after dropping five bits from my limpet and the other kept running after his drives rebooted... apparently the stuff he did drop despawns if it goes out of radar range, so we have the choice of settling for whatever they drop there and then and chasing them hoping they drop more next time?
How the hell do you make any money with mechanics like this?
You are massively bottlenecked by the scoop/cargo mechanics, and there are so many exploits/bugs for people to use to escape that any decent player is for all intents and purposes untouchable.
Some people would rather die on feet than live on their knees. Starting to see the pattern?
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They don't do it for the money. There are much easier ways to make money.
They don't do it for the challenge. If they fight its usually someone much weaker than them.
Why do they do it?
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They deserve it ? They don't deserve anything mate. What they deserve is the right to flight or fight as they see fit and the right to see bloody justice (bloody in the sense of a lot of messy splattered blood - not swearing) inflicted on the thieving scum that attacked them (in game blood and justice - not the actual people )
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I sure see the patterns. He did not get his nose bloody enough. If he survives the young adulthood, he will learn to steer away from suicidal situation. Then make some calls and return with considerable force... I met some traders who returned with Python and Conda escorts. Those were freakin funny.
Well, every pilot should learn how to defend himself, or even look out for himself. If he is not capable to do that, he must yield to the superior force. If he is mentally not capable to do that, he must learn a lesson. That simple. The more you kill those pilots, the faster they will learn to appreciate convoys and escorts.
The pirates are actually on YOUR side! The best way to get people organized is to give them a common and dangerous enemy: MURDEROUS THIEF PIRATE SCUMS.
So do your job, get out there, find some CMDRs, tell them you are a pirate then blow them up.
Well, every pilot should learn how to defend himself, or even look out for himself. If he is not capable to do that, he must yield to the superior force. If he is mentally not capable to do that, he must learn a lesson. That simple. The more you kill those pilots, the faster they will learn to appreciate convoys and escorts.
The pirates are actually on YOUR side! The best way to get people organized is to give them a common and dangerous enemy: MURDEROUS THIEF PIRATE SCUMS.
So do your job, get out there, find some CMDRs, tell them you are a pirate then blow them up.
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There is more skill involved in piracy than any other aspect of this game.
I can't speak from experience with ED, I've hated piracy in this game, but in other games I've done it because I enjoy hunting players. That sense of working out the best spot, finding players and sneaking up on them without being noticed etc.
Even if during the combat phase you are in a superior ship, that is not the challenging aspect of piracy.
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With the arrival of wings, I am very surprised this is not a thing yet. Would make lone pirate think twice one would imagine.