Vivarium animals able to go in normal exhibit or leave vivarium

I'm curious. I'm only able to watch vids at the moment. How are the terrarium animals fed? Do they have to be fed by the keepers or are they magically getting nourishment from thin air?
Keeper feed them. Not sure how it's fully done because I was busy taking care of nile monitor overpopulation. I just sent the keeper to the exhibit, keeper looked the exhibit condition, and I think keeper went to the hut...
 
I would argue it would be nicer if we at least had different sizes of exhibits to choose from and style, so it feels more unique.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the exhibit animals don't move around in their exhibit, right? In which case it would probably be too late to put in this feature if they hadn't planned on having the animal models move, because that would be more rigging, more animating, and potentially more modelling if the original animals weren't modelled with animation in mind. It would be too much work for an animal you'd never see let's be honest. I can barely find them in the small enclosure they're in as it is
I hope they have animations in the full game. Will be so boring if they do nothing.
 
Yeah I'll be honest I haven't really bought any of them/watched them so I'm not sure about that but I agree would be nice if they moved around in the full game
 
I'm curious. I'm only able to watch vids at the moment. How are the terrarium animals fed? Do they have to be fed by the keepers or are they magically getting nourishment from thin air?

If I'm remembering correctly, the keeper just goes up and cleans the glass with a sponge, and then the animals' food is suddenly full, so...... a bit of both? xD
 
Yeah I'll be honest I haven't really bought any of them/watched them so I'm not sure about that but I agree would be nice if they moved around in the full game
They've obviously put a lot of work into this. It's understandable that they would throw in a few simple things. I do have to say that the animals are the best I've ever seen and I really can't wait to play the full game in November.
 
Here are some things I want to mention here.
1) They do change position, when you're not watching. They mostly stay at one position, lookin around or hidng when you're watching, but they 'move' to another pre-determined point when the exhibit is off-screen.
2) And I see it more reasonable. Vivarium animals are surprisingly static IRL, in my experience. Many animals tend to rest in their comfortable spot, even in vivarium.
3) It's the variety i concern. For now we only have 1x1x2-ish tropical exhibit with a big tree trunk in the middle. More size variety is needed as well as some environment variety such as dry ones or semi to full aquatic ones.
 
Here are some things I want to mention here.
1) They do change position, when you're not watching. They mostly stay at one position, lookin around or hidng when you're watching, but they 'move' to another pre-determined point when the exhibit is off-screen.
2) And I see it more reasonable. Vivarium animals are surprisingly static IRL, in my experience. Many animals tend to rest in their comfortable spot, even in vivarium.
3) It's the variety i concern. For now we only have 1x1x2-ish tropical exhibit with a big tree trunk in the middle. More size variety is needed as well as some environment variety such as dry ones or semi to full aquatic ones.
I'd be happy with that.
 
Here are some things I want to mention here.
1) They do change position, when you're not watching. They mostly stay at one position, lookin around or hidng when you're watching, but they 'move' to another pre-determined point when the exhibit is off-screen.
2) And I see it more reasonable. Vivarium animals are surprisingly static IRL, in my experience. Many animals tend to rest in their comfortable spot, even in vivarium.
3) It's the variety i concern. For now we only have 1x1x2-ish tropical exhibit with a big tree trunk in the middle. More size variety is needed as well as some environment variety such as dry ones or semi to full aquatic ones.

Interesting. So essentially they have predetermined spots they move between?
But yeah I agree. I'm going to assume we only have the one because it's beta
 
I'd like 3 templates for the vivariums: small, medium and large.

The small one could be roughly half of the current size, and it's for the smaller arthropods and amphibians.
The medium one is the current vivarium, perfect for medium-sized herps (reptiles and amphibians)
The large one could be twice the current size, for the larger reptiles like the anaconda and the iguana.

That's my suggestion.
 
Haha, I understand you... I'm one of those players, who has a focus on realism when it comes to sim/tycoon like games. And when a games promotes realism, I expect a game to live up to that (or at least try).

To give a better understanding what i'd like to see, is a reptile house and the tools to make that small glass decoration my own. I've seen a friend's terrarium with his Tarantula. I want to be creative in a small terrarium/habitat/glass tank, as this T would require. I know that's most likely not going to happen, as this would require an additional in-depth feature in the game.
Yes I like realism as well if you look at the rest of my wishlist, but to me realism means anything that would be able to happen in real life like a lizard doesn’t have to just sit in a cage. Realism should not be defined by what other people have done in real life or what zoos do as that does not mean the be all and end all of realism.
 
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I think this is more what players are wanting. The curves and designs of the terrariums. I personally love the second. It's made up of smaller tanks. Some of the exhibits are really too big for some animals and some are too small. That's why we need a few more options.

Yes but I want my vivarium animals to be in a main enclosure like a lion because they deserved the spotlight just as much like a cobra should be in a big natural exhibit
 
I'd like 3 templates for the vivariums: small, medium and large.

The small one could be roughly half of the current size, and it's for the smaller arthropods and amphibians.
The medium one is the current vivarium, perfect for medium-sized herps (reptiles and amphibians)
The large one could be twice the current size, for the larger reptiles like the anaconda and the iguana.

That's my suggestion.

Good suggestion just I would like my reptiles in my zoo to be in normal enclosures like normal animals with few acceptions such as frogs and smaller critters
 
I would argue it would be nicer if we at least had different sizes of exhibits to choose from and style, so it feels more unique.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the exhibit animals don't move around in their exhibit, right? In which case it would probably be too late to put in this feature if they hadn't planned on having the animal models move, because that would be more rigging, more animating, and potentially more modelling if the original animals weren't modelled with animation in mind. It would be too much work for an animal you'd never see let's be honest. I can barely find them in the small enclosure they're in as it is

Yes but in normal enclosures camera functions are better and I’m not talking about little frogs I’m talking about monitor lizards, snakes, venomous snakes and lizards, and maybe some larger spiders such as the bird eater which in itself is bigger then the baby tortoises it would be a cool option terrarium/vivarium or exhibit
 
I would really like it. But I think it would be a lot of Work to give them the Animations that are needed for this. I have a Idea for a really beautiful Exhibit for Green Iguanas. The Terrariums are way too small for them. Maybe they could add something like a Terrarium without Walls that make it possible to build a huge Exhibit and then set it in the Enclosure. The Animal would just live like in a smaller Terrarium but there would be way more Options to design their Enclosure. Another Idea I had, would be various Terrarium-Parts like some Edge-Parts, Parts for the middle of the Terrarium and they could be one big Terrarium that would work like the small ones but would be at least a bit more customizable
 
Yes I like realism as well if you look at the rest of my wishlist, but to me realism means anything that would be able to happen in real life like a lizard doesn’t have to just sit in a cage. Realism should not be defined by what other people have done in real life or what zoos do as that does not mean the be all and end all of realism.

I just think Planet Zoo needs to maintain Zoo realism and not add features which aren't used in zoos or for people who have those animals as a pet.

I know some species of tarantula are burrowers and spend their entire life on just 1-2 square meters (male during the season tend to wander a bit more). In a terrarium/vivarium you will able to see them, in a normal enclosure you'll basically have an empty enclosure..
A former colleague used have a Bearded Dragon as pet, which requires special lamps. Proper lighting and temparature are very important. Same goes for the high humidity requirements for them. I'm guessing the same apllies to (green) Iguanuas. They are actually really sensitive. In a Vivarium/terrarium you can regulate this.

I understand the whole 'normal enclosure' point but to me it doesn't make any sense. I'm pretty sure you upset a lot of pet owners/zoo keepers, when you add such a feature. IRL, that would mean a death sentence for some animals.

More creativity with a vivarium, yes... I'd love to see that.
 
I just think Planet Zoo needs to maintain Zoo realism and not add features which aren't used in zoos or for people who have those animals as a pet.

I know some species of tarantula are burrowers and spend their entire life on just 1-2 square meters (male during the season tend to wander a bit more). In a terrarium/vivarium you will able to see them, in a normal enclosure you'll basically have an empty enclosure..
A former colleague used have a Bearded Dragon as pet, which requires special lamps. Proper lighting and temparature are very important. Same goes for the high humidity requirements for them. I'm guessing the same apllies to (green) Iguanuas. They are actually really sensitive. In a Vivarium/terrarium you can regulate this.

I understand the whole 'normal enclosure' point but to me it doesn't make any sense. I'm pretty sure you upset a lot of pet owners/zoo keepers, when you add such a feature. IRL, that would mean a death sentence for some animals.

More creativity with a vivarium, yes... I'd love to see that.
Thanks for your input the only thing I’d like to say is that do you think the coolers and heaters have any realism value, no... they would be physically impossible to replicate in real life and zoos do not have such equipment it is serverly unrealistic as a cooler cooling a full exhibit in the open air is impossible iguanas are huge lizards and should have a big exhibits like Nile monitors. It should be choice. And also I think all snakes and medium to large reptiles in general should be allowed in exhibits.

Plus how would reptiles such as basilisk lizards get spotlight if they cant do their signature Jesus Christ run in a normal exhibit along the water in my mind it is the only and best way for it to be implemented and I’m sure it annoys a lot of wildlife experts when you have a snow leopard in Africa just because of 2 coolers so yeah it is not impossible or out of the depths of planet zoos realism.👍🏻
 
I'm going to write off the first part.. Zoos have cooler/cooling mist/cooling rocks/cooling equipment for their housing. Same goes for heating.
Maybe not the tools as their are ingame, but still a different variety and just to cool it instead of freezing.
A lot of bigger animals are able to adapt to the weather pretty good. Don't know about Africa but in Europe they do.

Same goes for the second one, really missing your point. Vivariums can have water too and do their walk.. And googled 'snow leopard Africa', they used to have at least 1 in South Africa. Considering there are only several hundred in captivity all over the world, not weird. A lot of zoos/countries don't have those...

We can discuss this further, but they are not going to implement something that no zoo in the world does in normal exhibits. Maybe the tropical dome idea is something to add, but doesn't apply to a lot of animals (like spiders/insects/snakes/certain sensitive lizards).

Next thing will be vegans/vegetarians asking/demanding greens for their carnivores because they want their choice (a vegetarian zoo)..
 
I'd like 3 templates for the vivariums: small, medium and large.

The small one could be roughly half of the current size, and it's for the smaller arthropods and amphibians.
The medium one is the current vivarium, perfect for medium-sized herps (reptiles and amphibians)
The large one could be twice the current size, for the larger reptiles like the anaconda and the iguana.

I love this idea, and have said something similar in different posts! I think the large ones could be 3 times the current size, honestly to really make it work for some of those bigger critters. I think it would be cool too if we could stack the small and medium ones the way they sometimes do in real zoos.
 
Obviously 100s of little frogs will be tedious to look after but if place in a aviary type enclosure I think it would be pretty cool also imagine having a king cobra in your zoo but have to have it trapped in a little box not being able to appreciate it frontier already have came out and said that vivarium animals are not just part of the exhibit they are in fact a singular being. Meaning that it would be easy to make them able to get out they vivarium also it has apparently been confirmed they can break out sooooo

We should be able to have our snakes, spiders, small and big lizards in normal exhibits with obvious anomalies because they are to small etc. I would love to have a family of cobras, rattle snakes, bush vipers, monitor lizards, or lizards in a smaller yet normal exhibit and I believe FD can do it! Imaging having a 100% size gene albino king cobra in the centre of your zoo not in a little box but in a normal exhibit where it belongs... well it belongs in the wild but you know what I mean. It would be a great addition to this already amazing game.

And If animals such as the Brazilian wandering spider is allowed in the enclosure it will climb on the rock and will attack anything it sees as prey and even your other animals killing them if untreated because of its venom. Although spiders will be the hardest out of all of the vivarium animals to integrate into the game because of there climbing I think it would still be possible and great to see them out of that tint little box

Do you agree?
If so or if not let me know your opinion...
snakes don't like large enclosures they need to be in a little box to be happy
 
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