Newcomer / Intro What are you up to?

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

I am not sure of is if I first footfalled and then scanned a Bio on that planet if you could claim the discovery bonus by landing there next and selling the data first.

No offense, but I am struggling to make sense of this sentence.

A first footfall would mean that you are definitely the first to sample these bios, as you have to be on foot to take those samples.
The 50 kCr you get if you scan a bio with your SRV's comp scanner is just a codex discovery bonus that is separate from the other payouts and is, as far as I am aware, granted no matter if you are the first to turn them in. Why else would they come as redeemable vouchers?

 

[Gheera]

Cut off from the rest of the universe (well, on an Xbox ), and long off grid, dusted the Orca Jules Verne off for a comfortable trip into the black -50 jumps made towards the Soul nebula. There’s not a lot of life on the way, and even scanning all the systems only turned up a few water worlds and one planet with any features to contemplating landing on.
Let’s see what the next 100 jumps have to offer.

 

[aRJay]

No offense, but I am struggling to make sense of this sentence.

A first footfall would mean that you are definitely the first to sample these bios, as you have to be on foot to take those samples.
The 50 kCr you get if you scan a bio with your SRV's comp scanner is just a codex discovery bonus that is separate from the other payouts and is, as far as I am aware, granted no matter if you are the first to turn them in. Why else would they come as redeemable vouchers?

(1): In Cartographics if you scan a system first you only get the credit as first discoverer if you sell the data on that system before anyone else.

(2): However if you land on a planet first you get the credited on maps etc for First Footfall immediately

What I don’t know is if the First Discovery of a bio when you sell it at Vista based on being the first one to sell the sample like (1) or being the first to sample it like (2).

The Codex rewards are as you say a completely different thing.

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

(1): In Cartographics if you scan a system first you only get the credit as first discoverer if you sell the data on that system before anyone else.

(2): However if you land on a planet first you get the credited on maps etc for First Footfall immediately

What I don’t know is if the First Discovery of a bio when you sell it at Vista based on being the first one to sell the sample like (1) or being the first to sample it like (2).

The Codex rewards are as you say a completely different thing.

Now I get it. That's a good question. And also one I only have an "I don't know, eihter." as an answer.
Though, regarding (1), I'm not entirely sure about that, it could be that my memory is playing tricks on me again, but I feel like I have seen my name appear as first discoverer on my recent trip. And I don't own a carrier nor have I seen one.

 

[K Olley]

Now I get it. That's a good question. And also one I only have an "I don't know, eihter." as an answer.
Though, regarding (1), I'm not entirely sure about that, it could be that my memory is playing tricks on me again, but I feel like I have seen my name appear as first discoverer on my recent trip. And I don't own a carrier nor have I seen one.

Cartographic data does not appear until it is sold but first footfall data is credited on the system map straight away, if an explorer crashes etc before handing in data they don't get the credit in game for first system discovery but may be credited with it out of game in EDSM. I have seen a system fairly near the bubble with no planetary tags but has had a first footfall tag.

As for Bio's and first discovery, I have no idea how it works for those missed by first footfall or for those that don't sell their data first.

 

[]M[]

(1): In Cartographics if you scan a system first you only get the credit as first discoverer if you sell the data on that system before anyone else.

(2): However if you land on a planet first you get the credited on maps etc for First Footfall immediately

What I don’t know is if the First Discovery of a bio when you sell it at Vista based on being the first one to sell the sample like (1) or being the first to sample it like (2).

The Codex rewards are as you say a completely different thing.

I don’t know for certain but i suspect it is like the first option - codex rewards have been around since Horizons and are thus processed the same way as cartographic data, while first discoveries/footfalls are an OD innovation?

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

codex rewards have been around since Horizons

Codex rewards are issued as redeemable vouchers you have to turn in at the contacts of a station. You get them instantly in the moment you completed the scan that triggered them. They are a reward from your personal codex.
Cartographic data seems to get processed in the moment you turn them in at UC. I don't know how they handle first discoveries, the fair way would be to determine the first discovery by the logged time of discovery, but I fear this kind of fairness isn't really in use in this universe...

 

[aRJay]

Codex rewards are issued as redeemable vouchers you have to turn in at the contacts of a station. You get them instantly in the moment you completed the scan that triggered them. They are a reward from your personal codex.
Cartographic data seems to get processed in the moment you turn them in at UC. I don't know how they handle first discoveries, the fair way would be to determine the first discovery by the logged time of discovery, but I fear this kind of fairness isn't really in use in this universe...

No it is based on selling the data which is why you can lose everything if your ship is destroyed before you sell.

Similar to how scientific discoveries were credited in the 19th and 20th centuries the first to publish got the credit.

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

No it is based on selling the data which is why you can lose everything if your ship is destroyed before you sell.

Similar to how scientific discoveries were credited in the 19th and 20th centuries the first to publish got the credit.

Yeah, if you lose the vouchers, you're screwed. I forgot that.

Although this system is so outdated, in particular as you get the information of your first discovery from some server far away from your ship.
It should be easy to store the information there, too.
After all, it works with sensitive data you are asked to deliver somewhere - even if you lose your ship, that data is still there after the rebuy.

 

[aRJay]

Yeah, if you lose the vouchers, you're screwed. I forgot that.

Although this system is so outdated, in particular as you get the information of your first discovery from some server far away from your ship.
It should be easy to store the information there, too.
After all, it works with sensitive data you are asked to deliver somewhere - even if you lose your ship, that data is still there.

Yes it should be one thing or another for survey/mapping/exobiology data, and despite it causing more upsets I would prefer it having to be delivered to count.

Mission stuff I always assume is in something like an encrypted memory card concealed inside the flight suit.

 

[Miscellaneous]

Penny is leaving the Acherons and ready to head back to life in the suburbs. I'm taking the black with me

LET THE PLANETOID MATCH THE PAINTJOB

MIDNIGHT BLACK PAINT -*- PROMOTIONAL PAID FOR BY THE LIVERY NEAR U

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[CMDR Timber McWolf]

Yes it should be one thing or another for survey/mapping/exobiology data, and despite it causing more upsets I would prefer it having to be delivered to count.

I would have supported this in the time before fleet carriers were a thing.
But nowadays, I feel that this approach isn't fair to those who don't own a carrier, be it by choice or because they are still struggling working on getting the funding for one.

Mission stuff I always assume is in something like an encrypted memory card concealed inside the flight suit.

It often reads as if the data would be transmitted to your ship's computer...

 

[Jumpin' Jack Flash]

Hi All

What am I up to......One week of solid mining is driving me crazy!
I've decided to point my Carrier to uncharted territory somewhere and do some exploring.
Yay!...2,645 LY out and I'm now in undiscovered territory (I'm easily pleased).

Jack

 

[Rhialto]

On one of my last jumps i ended up beside a twin star.
I moved away between the two suns. Not a good idea, i almost got cooked.
A short boost on my SCO FSD got me to safety.

 

[aRJay]

I am back to my science project of training up an SLF pilot.

While they were in the 75-80% Dangerous grade I was starting to get quite encouraged until they reported that the fighter had been destroyed, what was disappointing was I had seen what happened and it wasn’t enemy fire they had tried a shortest route to the target and rammed an asteroid.

Yesterday I got the message that they had now reached Deadly unfortunately that means I will have no clue how they are progressing as they have hit a bug which shows them at 100% rather than somewhere just above 5% this has been confirmed and voted on the tracker.

 

[the100thmonkey]

On one of my last jumps i ended up beside a twin star.
I moved away between the two suns. Not a good idea, i almost got cooked.
A short boost on my SCO FSD got me to safety.

Overdrive has many uses.

I think it's great.

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

Overdrive has many uses.

I think it's great.

I can't tell, as I set out on my journey before they came out.

What still isn't great but rather annoying is the automated landing after your ship has dismissed itself due to your extended distance from it.
You're standing there in your SRV, a plane as flat as a pan right in front of, big enough to land at least a 'Vette, a Cutter and a T-10 side-by-side without bumping into each other. And where does your ship land? Exactly, fifty meters behind you to your right, on the bumpiest piece of terrain in a radius of a kilometer, parked perfectly over a bump that keeps you from reaching the docking bay from any angle.

 

[Codger]

I haven't logged in for a little while, so I wanted to make back the carrier upkeep. I landed on a lovely little moon, with a nitrogen atmosphere, searching for a lone bacterium worth 8.4 million base.

The moon was very, very flat, with lots of these exceptionally interesting rocks (wink wink).

The bacterium was easy to locate, and it was everywhere:

With the "first logged" bonus it came to 42 million. Just about right

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

I haven't logged in for a little while, so I wanted to make back the carrier upkeep. I landed on a lovely little moon, with a nitrogen atmosphere, searching for a lone bacterium worth 8.4 million base.

The moon was very, very flat, with lots of these exceptionally interesting rocks (wink wink).
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The bacterium was easy to locate, and it was everywhere:
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With the "first logged" bonus it came to 42 million. Just about right

That was a frozen waterworld, from the looks of it. Though the ice could have been a different material than H20...

 

[Codger]

That was a frozen waterworld, from the looks of it. Though the ice could have been a different material than H20.

It was this, so yeah. 87.87% Ice.

Blau Eur US-B d13 6 a

Icy body, thin nitrogen atmosphere, Landable
Mass: 0.15 EM
Radius: 4587.3 km
Distance from Arrival Point 4,554.3ls
Atmospheric Composition:
Nitrogen - 99.95%
Planetary Composition:
Ice - 87.87%
Rock - 10.44%
Metal - 1.69%
Surface Temp: 77K
Gravity: 0.29g
Surface Pressure: 0.02 Atmospheres