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[Tyres O'Flaherty]

Sorry I haven't been clear. I have been scanned with only limpets and they move on. But I am often scanned while mining, while moving from one asteroid to another, after I already have some diamonds. Was attacked four times last night, by different pirates. All within one hotspot. The first chap wanted 644k credits' worth of cargo! That's when the fighter is doing its work while I carry on mining.

Have you got LTDs on board? As you are mining, perhaps they're picking up on a diamond signal and want to mug you. I tend to do this mining stuff when I know I have time to:

a) Let then scan
b) Have a good while lasering
c) Get back to a station to offload.

I lile to start afresh each time so I don't wake up in the hotspot and have nasties spawn on me.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

So, I'm still mining. Getting better now.

After tips from you wonderful CMDRs, I know what these limpet things are capable of. I was seeing lots go bye-bye, but as suggested, it seems they are stoopid and can't avoid rotating 'roids very well. So, I decided to realign my ship so rotating lumps can't smash into my poor limpets - I would have called them Huey, Louie and Dewey but they expire so quickly, it's hard to become attached

 

[Para Handy]

Sorry I haven't been clear. I have been scanned with only limpets and they move on. But I am often scanned while mining, while moving from one asteroid to another, after I already have some diamonds. Was attacked four times last night, by different pirates. All within one hotspot. The first chap wanted 644k credits' worth of cargo! That's when the fighter is doing its work while I carry on mining.

You should actually wait until you see the high-wake signal of the pirate that scanned you on arrival - they do keep coming back to see if you now have anything they want.

BTW - seen system security instead of pirates on first arriving a few times lately.

 

[SportyScribe]

Yesterday was the first time I saw flashy yellow traingles reappear a couple of times while I was still mining... but they never appeared on my contacts page.
Only once did my connection drop and then restart me in the field and I skeddaddled and dropped what I had in my hold at the highest price a single jump away before restocking on limpets and coming back in... But have not been scanned a second time ever and that even allows for 128t of limpets to get through in my hold.

Got interdicted a couple of times heading into the rings when Borann was in Civil Unrest last week.....

 

[Simon Templar]

Very much this^^^^^^

After the initial visit when you arrive in the ring you shouldn’t see any more visitors unless you cause the instance to reset by going to the main menu or losing the connection, in either case I would go to sell what I had and restock my ship. Going to supercruise would also cause a reset but there is no reason to do that unless you are selling your cargo in that system.

The only other time you get repeated arrivals of pirates is if you are in range of some sort of RES, there is one near the triple in Borann but it is at one edge of the hot spot and you really shouldn’t be any where near it.

Strange, then. I'm not in or near a RES, I'm just mining in a hotspot. I arrive, generally am scanned and am empty, so they leave and I mine. I often see a couple of NPC miners, and always get some pirates coming at me during my mining. Last night I had 8T of LTD and had a pirate, broke off to shoot him. Then had 14 or so and again pirates turned up. And I'm not in Borann, I'm in the boonies up above Colonia. Guess it's just how they do things up there!

Have you got LTDs on board? As you are mining, perhaps they're picking up on a diamond signal and want to mug you. I tend to do this mining stuff when I know I have time to:

a) Let then scan
b) Have a good while lasering
c) Get back to a station to offload

I lile to start afresh each time so I don't wake up in the hotspot and have nasties spawn on me.

Yes, I'm only mining LTDs, so as I progress I am building up a hold of LTDs. But my first pirate interest last night was with only a few tonnes on board. I hadn't restarted my session and wasn;t going to head off to sell them that early.

But anyway, it's fine, I'm in a Cutter and am winning the fights, just wondered whether others were using a hangar. I'll stick with mine while the attacks continue. The company is nice, too!

 

[aRJay]

You should actually wait until you see the high-wake signal of the pirate that scanned you on arrival - they do keep coming back to see if you now have anything they want.

BTW - seen system security instead of pirates on first arriving a few times lately.

I see them occasionally and also from time to time an NPC miner which I keep well away from as while I wouldn’t be too upset if my limpets stole his fragments his stealing mine would not be nice. On rare occasions I have had a combination of two visitor groups show up but that is much rarer.

 

[Simon Templar]

You should actually wait until you see the high-wake signal of the pirate that scanned you on arrival - they do keep coming back to see if you now have anything they want.

BTW - seen system security instead of pirates on first arriving a few times lately.

Agreed and thanks but I do. Last night it was four separate attacks over two and a half hours. Middle one was flying a mamba which wasa bit harsh. It's fun developing my 'break line of sight between asteroids' skills, but does rather dent my ability to mine methodically, as I keep losing my 'place'.

EDIT: And yes, I see some local security, too. I'm allied with the local faction so they help out from time to time. Take their sweet time about it, though!

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

Another thing I like to do is, change my COVAS each time I dock. Have one of them keep saying "prospector limpet - failed" and "collector limpet expired" over an over can get fatiguing

I know the limpet voice can be shut off but I like the feeling of a companion along for the ride even if they are a robot.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

Question...

If a collector limpet expires, does the fragment it's carrying, if any, expire with it?

 

[Para Handy]

Question...

If a collector limpet expires, does the fragment it's carrying, if any, expire with it?

no

 

[d8veh]

During a recent visit, I saw some very unusual pirate behaviour shown in this vid at 36:30 to 42:30. The pirate came then went away without scanning, then disappeared off the radar only to return 6 minutes later and scan me. I reckon that the other two miners ran away and the pirate chased after them. When he finished with them, he came after me. One time, I had to wait nearly 15 minutes while a pirate had a battle with a police ship. It was very evenly matched and they hardly shot each other. They both went down to about 2% hull before the police finally won. Without weapons and only having weak shields, all I could do was watch.

Generally, waiting until they scanned you isn't enough. After they scanned you, they do a lap of the radar. You should wait until you see their departure wake.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkzgPT1P3vw&t=1429s

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

Verbal diarrhea today... sorry.

Decided to give the mining a rest. While the credits are nice, it becomes a little repetitive. Blind Io only knows how CMDRs can keep going for billions. So, it's back home with my new-found (modest) riches and hello again Phantom.

Time to get back to "wavin' my banner all over the place"

 

[SportyScribe]

During a recent visit, I saw some very unusual pirate behaviour shown in this vid at 36:30 to 42:30. The pirate came then went away without scanning, then disappeared off the radar only to return 6 minutes later and scan me. I reckon that the other two miners ran away and the pirate chased after them. When he finished with them, he came after me. One time, I had to wait nearly 15 minutes while a pirate had a battle with a police ship. It was very evenly matched and they hardly shot each other. They both went down to about 2% hull before the police finally won. Without weapons and only having weak shields, all I could do was watch.

Generally, waiting until they scanned you isn't enough. After they scanned you, they do a lap of the radar. You should wait until you see their departure wake.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkzgPT1P3vw&t=1429s

The departure wake shows up as a white marker in the radar? Or should I just keep checking the contacts?

 

[the100thmonkey]

It never seemed to like me very much I got very fed up cruising the rings for the right rocks, a while back!

I went and had a go in a Conflict Zone last night, for the first time. Just over 2 years in the game, and I'd never summoned up the courage to go on a MurderDeathKill rampage, but since this was a war that I am actually responsible for starting, I thought it was only fair that I pitch in and fight for the faction I had been quietly promoting into prominence One thing I am very glad of is that I did not go in there without being heavily engineered; it takes ages to kill even small ships because they are in turn tweaked a lot, and even my FDL with all it's shielding and reinforcement had to act like a shepherd and "get the flock out of here" on several occasions after being ganged up on.

High DPS gimballed weapons are the most efficient way of dealing with CZs. Try engineering overcharged/monstered or high-capacity/monstered gimballed frag cannons on a Krait Mk. II. Put corrosive on one of the medium frags. Target the FSD until you get used to it. I just go straight for the power plant now. You should be able to dominate low CZs.

Medium CZs are doable with a ship like this if you follow the advice about the Spec-Ops.

You can win wars in quiet system with just a few kills each day. However, if you're opposed, even by a CMDR dropping bounties for the enemy faction, then you have to start completing CZs or objectives unless you respond by bounty-hunting for the faction you're supporting, which isn't always possible.

Never managed to kill the enemy captain - they start to run with still quite a lot of hull left, and my weapons weren't good enough to take them down all the way before they could jump out.

Target the FSD or thrusters first - they can't jump out without them. One thing to do is make sure that your weapons don't have an inertial impact component to their damage model. Enforcers, for instance, will push an Anaconda faster than you can fly if you kill the thrusters but can't whittle the hull down in time.

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

Finally got my behind off the sofa and delivered some PP cargo ... Tomorrow = prismatics day.

Edit: Oh. I also went mining for two hours. It paid for the Cutter in this post and then some ...

 

[aRJay]

The departure wake shows up as a white marker in the radar? Or should I just keep checking the contacts?

Tricky one.
If they loop out of range they will drop off contacts and if the jump out then the marker will be a flicker at the edge of the screen.
In those cases if they have scanned me I will start mining when I find a good target, if I haven’t been scanned I will wait until I get impatient and then start mining when I find a good rock.
Of course what I am mining in will influence the decision Oakley (Anaconda) still has half her weapons and should give a good account if they come back for loot, Jackhammer my other laser miner might not be armed but has 6A drag drives and is an Orca so can outrun almost anything driven by an NPC. If core mining you can always just detonate a core and fly into the middle of all the dust and cold where you’ll vanish.

 

[Simon Templar]

Verbal diarrhea today... sorry.

Decided to give the mining a rest. While the credits are nice, it becomes a little repetitive. Blind Io only knows how CMDRs can keep going for billions. So, it's back home with my new-found (modest) riches and hello again Phantom.

Time to get back to "wavin' my banner all over the place"

And there's the joy of this game - you can pick and choose your gameplay, depending on mood, yet it sits within the same wider narrative. I need 595m cr to ship my Corvette to Colonia. The way mining is - even with me at the helm - that is doable enough that I am loving learning mining, while knowing that I can stop for a while then if I feel like a change.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

And there's the joy of this game - you can pick and choose your gameplay, depending on mood, yet it sits within the same wider narrative. I need 595m cr to ship my Corvette to Colonia. The way mining is - even with me at the helm - that is doable enough that I am loving learning mining, while knowing that I can stop for a while then if I feel like a change.

Absolutely although I do wonder if things will change in Borann after those Fleet Carrier whassisnames come in.

 

[aRJay]

Absolutely although I do wonder if things will change in Borann after those Fleet Carrier whassisnames come in.

Changes after a new material has been added to the mix of things mineable in rings is inevitable but all mining is profitable and somewhere there will be something that pays over the odds which someone will find and another gold rush will start.

 

[Simon Templar]

Absolutely although I do wonder if things will change in Borann after those Fleet Carrier whassisnames come in.

Indeed - I'm quite enjoying being out at Colonia. I have no interest in a fleet carrier - my home base is a game one at the moment anyway! - and it's keeping me well out of the Borann frenzy. Anyone who wants to be will be rich at some point anyway, so finding some meta route to achieving it quickly does nothing for me. I'd cash out to over 2bn cr as it is, despite never having chased the cash, as money always follows gameplay. So I can't see Fleet Carriers changing the economy in a way which negatively affects me. Some will love their carriers, that's great for them but with one of all each ship and all the money I need I'm optimistic. But I appreciate that's easy to say as one who never plans to visit Borann! I hope it stays as you like it after next week.

o7