You should read back - I think it's a first that they declared the game is too hard because Steam Charts said so. And they claim to be an engineer, so must be legit
what else are they making harder for new players? How many hours it is taking now?
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claim to be an engineer, so must be legit
I asked Derek, but things aren't looking good. He (Derek the football) said he'd think about it, but muttered something about getting grass stains on his newly polished skin, so I will have to let you know.
Wilson said he was free, but nowhere near water, he had a bad experience once!
Does he still have that cool make-up on? Wilson and Derek were mates, but Derek is a bit bigoted if I'm honest, it's quite sad.
I hate to think what will happen if he ever meets Spalding.
Wilson is still a bit miffed about Precious Lilywhite, it's all very well being bigoted but stealing someones girlfriend was a just a step to far!
He said that the bloke on DTEA said the games dying, so must be right after all that chap is a
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I warned Derek, but all he said was "balls to you" when I asked him about her.
One day he'll realize he has to get on the ball....
The game isn't dying. Indeed, it seems to be maintaining its playerbase:
I thought linking steamchart was frowned upon, unreliable, bad, etc... or is it only when it serve one narrative but not the other ?
In reality, game's not dying but it's not healthy either. The big nosedive you can clearly see on the chart is post odyssey. Fdev admitted not once, but twice, in their shareholder report thing Odyssey didn't sold as much as planned. Bad press and lack of console release didn't help past the initial sales.
They also literally lost the majority of Odyssey sale on console over night. Sure, some console player will transfer to PC and maybe buy the DLC, but not all of them. There is a reason they played on console to begin with. Which, added to the fact the game is still poorly optimized and ask for a beefy computer amidst component shortage and absurd GPU prices, will make it even more difficult for many of them to do the transition.
And then you have all the bad press. For a year, every time Fdev was in the news it was for something "bad". First Odyssey mess. Then Braben admitting it's a mess and the apologize. VR "on hold". Consoles "on hold". Consoles cancelled. Even the tiling issue made some news. The only good press came from the release of the new SRV and the transfer recently announced. And the last one is more a "solution" to a bad news than something plain good.
But OFC lots of people can only think in absolute (maybe they are Siths ?), so it's either "GAME'S DYING ! DOOM !" or "Game's fine, can't hear you ! Lalalala !".
I think it's OK to link to Steamcharts if you agree with me, but not if you don't.I thought linking steamchart was frowned upon, unreliable, bad, etc... or is it only when it serve one narrative but not the other ?
In all seriousness, what the Steamcharts graph shows in this instance is that player numbers (in terms of concurrent players) have been pretty stable over time. The peak from Odyssey is an outlier. FD might have hoped that the number of players would have reacherd a higher stable number, but to my mind it's just one of those perennial moderately popular niche games. It's not goingto compete with COD or PUBG, but it never tried to.
I'd just look at the trend in the graph and go "meh." I personally don't think the basic premise of the thread makes sense anyway. If I can load the game and play it, I don't care if there are 5, 5,000 or 50,000 other players.
Got a guy over on Steam at the moment claiming to speak for all the reasonable people in the community. Yeah, that one isn't going well.
No comment on this guy
I thought linking steamchart was frowned upon, unreliable, bad, etc... or is it only when it serve one narrative but not the other ?
All about how its presented:
"Game is dying, here's proof, Steam charts" - weaksauce
"Game is thriving, here's proof, Steam charts" - weaksauce
"Game might be dying/thriving/maintaining players, here's Steam charts, which might be somewhat indicative of the bigger picture" - fine and dandy
As is the way on the forum. You forgot to claim to be in the "silent majority" though.
In all honesty, I use Steamcharts as I find the trends often accurate, but some people on the forum throw tantrum at the view of the green bar. Allergy I assume.
Numbers did drop to below pre odyssey though. It's difficult to tell how much can be attributed to odyssey issue and how much can be attributed to "real world" stuff, as it happened roughly around the COVID loosening of restrictions all over the world.
But it's still true nevertheless. It dropped back to 2020 numbers (and before). Which isn't really good for a DLC that took years to make.
I thought you’d posted a screenshot from Defender there for a moment.
Those were the days. Oh, and the twinkling stars. Wait, we have those back again. Damn.
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Got a guy over on Steam at the moment claiming to speak for all the reasonable people in the community. Yeah, that one isn't going well.
No comment on this guy
But... But... They speak for "The people that matter", havent you read the memo that says he is the end all, be all of the EDO is the bringer of doom upon elite?
That steam chart just shows that steam player numbers have remained more or less the same for as long as it's been on steam.. It's normal that there were some bumps in 2020-2021 as we were locked up. Personally I think that it's good that there are still players, as I've heard rumours of the game being dead..
Stop bangin on about Steam charts. Not all of us use Steam for ED. I bought it from Frontier direct, and although I have a Steam copy too, mine isn't even installed. Lots of us bought it before Steam even stocked it. Meaningless. Not a true representation of the player numbers as a whole. edited.
I can't agree. Back in the days credits were much more difficult to get, goldmines were fewer, rank progression was much slower, exploration was much more tedious, mining got you much less, there were no passenger missions, and engineers were random so getting the required materials was indirectly harder. Nerfs exist, that has always been the case, and it is much needed. The game needs balance, goldmines need nerfs. There will always be new ones anyway, and finding them is part of the fun. IMO opinion getting credit today is way to easy, and getting ranks too. People nowadays get Cutters in Jameson Memorial in a few weeks (or even days...), that was totally impossible a few years ago and that dosen't bring any good to the game or players. What is true though is that the new engineers related to Mercenary/equipment stuff are waaaay too grindy.
YTubers leave not because of the game being bad: they leave because they need an audience, so they need new feats to do new vids, so they move on to new games. That is the real reason why they always complain about Frontier not giving us updates: self-interest.
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