What is this??

Ozric

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Bingo - it's probably orbiting a comet.

As for Mitterand's Hollow that was a manually added body with some incorrect overrides - we can't blame Stellar Forge for that one!

Michael

Sorry... What to the who now? Stations orbiting comets :D
 
Bingo - it's probably orbiting a comet.

As for Mitterand's Hollow that was a manually added body with some incorrect overrides - we can't blame Stellar Forge for that one!

Michael

You guys going to keep Mitterand's Hollow as is? I know it's somewhat incorrect but it's definitely become a "must see" destination.

You could open up a tourist spot there... "God's Only Mistake" or something. They'd rake in the cash.
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
The game has always had some stations orbiting comets.

Michael

Can I ask a technical question then, as I'm now really intrigued. Would a comet have enough gravitational force to hold a station in orbit? Would it have to be closer/further than one orbiting a planet or moon?
 
The game has always had some stations orbiting comets.

Michael

Isn't a comet that doesn't move technically an asteroid? Okay, yes, everything in space is moving relative to everything else and the comet would be orbiting its parent star, but wouldn't it also have a tail? Or is it too far away from it's parent star for a tail to form?
 
under the right conditions, comets can be seen in 1.4 Only in debug, not in cockpit. best conditions are at breakout point of a scoopable star in normal space -- not supercruise. Appear rather like a bowtie-shaped nebula, color dependent on the local light source. occasionally will grow, shrink or disappear while watching. Not the comic-book comets other ships in hyper look like. Do not show on scanners, cannot be interacted with. (I spent a few hours trying).
 
I'll leave it in there (as it was probably my mistake) until I'm overruled :)

Michael

If you really want to have some crazy fast orbiting moon like Mitterrand, I suppose it's still possible while keeping it consistent with Stellar Forge rules - just move it in close orbit around some white dwarf.
 
Can I ask a technical question then, as I'm now really intrigued. Would a comet have enough gravitational force to hold a station in orbit? Would it have to be closer/further than one orbiting a planet or moon?

To take the comet 67P as example, it has a mass of 10^13 kg, which is a lot. I'm not sure what mass stations are supposed to have, but I assume it will be pretty high as well. So with F = (G*m1*m2)/r² you could calculate the gravitational force on each other.

Technically you could get every 2 objects in space to orbit each other, it would just be a question of how fast they are. So, depending on the size, it probably wouldn't exactly be a station orbiting the comet, but rather them orbiting each other, for the most part, and they would orbit very slowly.

All this is just an educated guess, I might be completely wrong :p
 
Can I ask a technical question then, as I'm now really intrigued. Would a comet have enough gravitational force to hold a station in orbit? Would it have to be closer/further than one orbiting a planet or moon?

In theory yes, it all depends how much attraction the two objects have on each other, and their rotational speeds. It's the same principle as planets just on a smaller scale. Unfortunately things change dramatically once the forces become either immense or really small, aka why we still are trying to find a unified theory that makes relativity and quantum mechanics work toghether.
 
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Really? I have never seen a station orbiting the primary star of a system.

There's one near Kaukhe. Can't remember the name of it, or the name of the star system, but I was there a couple of days ago. If I find it again, I'll post the system.
 
You guys going to keep Mitterand's Hollow as is? I know it's somewhat incorrect but it's definitely become a "must see" destination.

You could open up a tourist spot there... "God's Only Mistake" or something. They'd rake in the cash.

No no no! There's a planet for that, complete with God's final message to creation...we just have to find that planet, land(which we'll be able to do next week!) and get in line..which means it'll probably be another season or two before we can do that...gives them plenty of time to do that message up right!
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
To take the comet 67P as example, it has a mass of 10^13 kg, which is a lot. I'm not sure what mass stations are supposed to have, but I assume it will be pretty high as well. So with F = (G*m1*m2)/r² you could calculate the gravitational force on each other.

Technically you could get every 2 objects in space to orbit each other, it would just be a question of how fast they are. So, depending on the size, it probably wouldn't exactly be a station orbiting the comet, but rather them orbiting each other, for the most part, and they would orbit very slowly.

All this is just an educated guess, I might be completely wrong :p

Well it certainly sounds convincing ;)

I would be really intrigued to know "officially" how close/far/fast it would normally occur in Elite.
 
I'll leave it in there (as it was probably my mistake) until I'm overruled :)

Exactly who can overrule you, I wonder? :D

If you really want to have some crazy fast orbiting moon like Mitterrand, I suppose it's still possible while keeping it consistent with Stellar Forge rules - just move it in close orbit around some white dwarf.

The station in LAWD 26 used to have such a fast orbit, but it was nerfed moved farther away because people had trouble catching up with it in supercruise :(
(Even before the move, AFAIR the orbital period was still measured in hours, though.)
 
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