Thrustmaster hotas x on the Xbox, did used to use the Thrustmaster pedals aswell.... but felt slightly 'hemmed in' .
What joystick/controller do you use?
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I'll see what I can do. I think I also added a Teflon strip under the tensioner as well.
I don't know what you've been doing to your T.flights?
I have two now, One on each PC and both are working pretty well. That older one is now 4 year's old, is still pretty smooth, certainly usable, still centres correctly. Slight issue with the side button on the joystick , but I was never convinced it was that good to begin with, but it's still works, occasionally needs a second tap.
Also, you forget T-Flight is now more that half the price of any of it's rivals (depending on where you buy it, it's expensive on Amazon).
There is a new T-Flight out, but at double the price for 2 extra buttons, I'll give that a miss thank you.
T16000 + FCS Throttle for all my flying needs.
and a XB360 controller for SRV, FSS, and DSS.
Used to use the T-Flight until whenever the T16000 was introduced. The T-F's half the cost because it's controls have half the density of measurement that my newer stuff has.
Have had no issues with either stick. T-F saw at least 600 hours of use, the T16000 is going on 700. Don't get me started on the quality of the XB360 controller. It sucketh.
and a XB360 controller for SRV, FSS, and DSS.
Used to use the T-Flight until whenever the T16000 was introduced. The T-F's half the cost because it's controls have half the density of measurement that my newer stuff has.
Have had no issues with either stick. T-F saw at least 600 hours of use, the T16000 is going on 700. Don't get me started on the quality of the XB360 controller. It sucketh.
The FCS throttle has been a little spikey on the analogue axies pretty much since new, and the sliding throttle became frustratingly sticky after a few weeks, I've taken it apart to remove & re-apply silicone grease to the sliders every month or so for the last couple of years, but recently started to get noticeably worse, seemingly from simple wear on the plastic mouldings (I've probably put 3,000+hrs onto this device). A new FCS throttle arrived just today, hopefully it will last as long but also hopefully won't suffer the spiking. The ergonomics of it are excellent for ED imo, best throttle for my use at any price. I'm on the lookout for an ergonomically better stick but I am at least used to it after a couple of years of use
Damping grease is far superior to anything else on this throttle. If you can find it, Nyogel 767a is awesome for it.
My Sidewinder Precision Pro is still holding up
I have only the T-Flight, you are probably right about the measurement accuracy, but for Elite, it works just fine.
If you play flight sims or something that needed a finer level of control, then other HOTAS solutions would be more suited, maybe.
I did have a go on a Warthog, must be said there IS such a thing as too many buttons
Here you go. Actually I found that due to the extra thickness of the Teflon sheet the tensioning bar was not needed and the friction can be adjusted by tightening the retaining strip screws +/- finger tight.
ps. note the makeshift Teflon strain relief loop securing the USB cable in the top-right of the first photo. Do this first otherwise the weakly soldered wires may come away while you are disassembling and fitting.
pps. eBay Teflon seller example:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PTFE-Pla...0-250-0-5mm-/192757937278?hash=item2ce144b47e
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I used to think that before I got my T16000. Honest. I cannot go back.
Ok compared with T-flight, I'll give you.
Mind you for over a £100 quid, it ought to be better.
The T-flight is less than half that.
It's interesting to note repair advice on this thread for T16000's
I've not had to dismantle my T-Flight ... yet ;-) . At least at the T-F price it's a less scary proposition than the same on a T16000.
And I did exactly that.
Had a T.16000 for several years, gone strong for several thousands of hours, ended up developing the usual twist stick issues. Gone the way of the Hotas X, and still to this day I think that what I lost in precision (and I lost a lot) I more than made up with ergonomics and the added value of the throttle. As soon as the thing dies (and it just doesn't want to, developed a bit of axis drift that was easily fixed with very simple maintenance, a button has lost its click but is still working rather good), I'll probably get another. I've read somewhere that the PS4 version (same stick but with blue detailings) should have a largely improved deadzone compared to the original Hotas X, but it also costs quite a bit more.
I have also an x52 which is in great order but just not enough dammed buttons.And I did exactly that.
Had a T.16000 for several years, gone strong for several thousands of hours, ended up developing the usual twist stick issues. Gone the way of the Hotas X, and still to this day I think that what I lost in precision (and I lost a lot) I more than made up with ergonomics and the added value of the throttle. As soon as the thing dies (and it just doesn't want to, developed a bit of axis drift that was easily fixed with very simple maintenance, a button has lost its click but is still working rather good), I'll probably get another. I've read somewhere that the PS4 version (same stick but with blue detailings) should have a largely improved deadzone compared to the original Hotas X, but it also costs quite a bit more.
I used my hotas X on my son's PC recently (he owns the game too, only put a few hours in though) and going back the difference in precision was noticeable but when I originally switched to the T16000 that improvement was masked by the need to adapt to the new controller.
The precision of the Hotas X is fine, but with the T16000 I can stay on target much better FA-off with a fixed beam. That extra precision is clearly there but that alone is not something I would upgrade for. The extra buttons, analogue thruster joypad on the throttle & (for me) improved reliability and the extra precision made it worth the extra cash. But I still miss the zero throttle detent & ability to lock out the stick twist (I use the throttle finger paddle for yaw on both).
I might be speaking above my station as s relative noob but one needs excellent fine control for fixed multicannons, for example, in Elite...so much so, that I had to give up using them on my DBS in favour of rail guns & plasma which rely more on timing for each shot.I have only the T-Flight, you are probably right about the measurement accuracy, but for Elite, it works just fine.
If you play flight sims or something that needed a finer level of control, then other HOTAS solutions would be more suited, maybe.
I did have a go on a Warthog, must be said there IS such a thing as too many buttons
I'm pretty good with the rails after 2-3 weeks of practise with my Hotas X, now that my muscle memory incorporates the charging time.
Ultimately I want to hold my own against good PvPers...I think challenging the best is out of the question as some of those dudes take it pretty seriously, whereas my primary focus is to simply enjoy being a bit of a Solo-esque rogue in a dangerous galaxy when life allows.