Why Aiming in FA OFF with a Stick is a huge disadvantage

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also for you this is with TOOGLING

dont use your toogling any more then you are on topic
but you need your toogling otherwise your flight style does not work.
Toggling is available to everyone. It is something that HOTAS and stick users are specifically positioned to take excellent advantage of. It is one of the ways in which a stick user can develop the skills to reach parity of skill with a relative mouse user. It is fundamentally something that should be considered when making claims about the capacities and capability of a control input when compared to another control input.
 
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the audience here knows who the gankers are dont expect me to tell their names.
With respect, that's very presumptuous of you to assume, if not downright insulting. The majority of readers never PVP or get ganked. We don't know who "the gankers" are and we don't know who you are - both you and the gankers are virtual nobodies (as am I and everyone else in this thread. For the record, I recognize precisely two gankers, and I've been around since 2015).

You've failed to answer a single one of my questions and have displayed a terrible attitude throughout the entirety of this thread. You know how certain groups construct "PVP boogeymen" stereotypes? Well, thanks for reinforcing their beliefs of PVP people being hardheaded, entitled players who throw their toys out of the pram.

How are you a mentor on Frontier's official discord server with this attitude?
 
well the griefer and ganker community sucessfully brigaded and undermined a constructive thread here.
as i said we will go different ways to achieve this in a way you cant undermine.

i am out. write with yourself now
 
well the griefer and ganker community sucessfully brigaded and undermined a constructive thread here.
as i said we will go different ways to achieve this in a way you cant undermine.
Constructive thread does not mean we aren't allowed to poke holes in your extremely flawed logic

which is what has happened here
 
well @L'Intouchable i guess we also can only agree to disagree here.

i think even if i would have a excel sheet which shows exactly the thrust what is given by move and counter move you would claim the same.
you can continue to try to undermine this but you will fail

and i ask myself personally why you all are so interested that frontiert does not introduce such a mode for stick altough experienced pilots like morbad or sanderling stated they are fine with it and see no problem and you all fly with relative mouse.
Mad cause bad.
 

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well the griefer and ganker community sucessfully brigaded and undermined a constructive thread here.
as i said we will go different ways to achieve this in a way you cant undermine.

i am out. write with yourself now
Just for some clarity:

When you present your case to FDev about how HOTAS must have coding added to compete with the software auto-stabilisation provided by relative mouse - will you be presenting your evidence of what relative mouse does and how it works?

Will you let them know that there's a majority report regarding the nature of relative mouse that disagrees with your interpretation and let them know the content of their position on relative mouse, whilst you're asking for HOTAS to achieve parity with your supposed software module that mouse users benefit from?

Will you keep your evidence still hidden from us, so we'll have to guess at what you're basing your claims on?
 
Yes, it's harder to fly FA-OFF in combat with a stick. That's a part of why I like it. It's a skill to develop.

Also, X4 does it the way you want and... I don't like it as much. It feels stiff.
 
spear is the same griefer and ganker community since they attack self-claimed kos commanders on harmless ships like miners/explorers/taxi ships. Can you remind that definition? "everyone who we consider terrorists and who fly with them"? You made some misinformation posts and keep ignoring evidence requests and now complain that constructive thread was undermined? Why you can't just play in game instead of keeping doing that social engineering thing? And stop threating with brigading and mass reporting, it just looks silly
 
With respect, that's very presumptuous of you to assume, if not downright insulting. The majority of readers never PVP or get ganked. We don't know who "the gankers" are and we don't know who you are - both you and the gankers are virtual nobodies (as am I and everyone else in this thread. For the record, I recognize precisely two gankers, and I've been around since 2015).

You've failed to answer a single one of my questions and have displayed a terrible attitude throughout the entirety of this thread. You know how certain groups construct "PVP boogeymen" stereotypes? Well, thanks for reinforcing their beliefs of PVP people being hardheaded, entitled players who throw their toys out of the pram.

How are you a mentor on Frontier's official discord server with this attitude?

He was made a mentor after Frontier gave up ownership of the server, which happened after nearly the entire previous team of mentors quit in frustration with Frontier's actions. When Akuma and his like joined, the remaining mods were scraping the bottom of the barrel and would take nearly any volunteer. Akuma gets kicked from nearly any other mentoring discord since he has a reputation for being pretentious and aggressively wrong (as this thread shows perfectly) he has to either make his own groups, or joins those with such low standards they'd take anyone.
Source: was part of that previous team.
 
On a side note, it would be awesome if the the devs added more sensitivity adjustments for hotas. My old, piece of junk, Thrustmaster one was actually far more accurate than my X52 pro, especially on center. I really wish there was a way to adjust the sensitivity curve for it.
 
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