True. But not fixing it has definitely made me play less, and led to less squadron engagement (because "what's the point any more?").
Then get mad about it. (at Fdev, that is)
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Why is the broken BGS being ignored?
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Then get mad about it. (at Fdev, that is)
Vistaenis Update
The situation has deteriorated since the tick. As well as space combat zones for the two wars that don't exist we now have ground combat available.
Unsurprisingly it's Vistaenis Empire Party fighting on the ground, however the opponent this time is Vistaenis Holdings. This could be explained by the fact that VH have moved to equal influence with VEP and are "officially" pending war on the station news. Maybe they're just getting an early start
It doesn't explain why all of the ground sites used for the conflict actually belong to Dekavu Crimson Vision Network. Presumably they're hiring them out.
If this carries on we may need a community goal to stop VEP before they declare war on the galaxy.
The situation has deteriorated since the tick. As well as space combat zones for the two wars that don't exist we now have ground combat available.
Unsurprisingly it's Vistaenis Empire Party fighting on the ground, however the opponent this time is Vistaenis Holdings. This could be explained by the fact that VH have moved to equal influence with VEP and are "officially" pending war on the station news. Maybe they're just getting an early start
It doesn't explain why all of the ground sites used for the conflict actually belong to Dekavu Crimson Vision Network. Presumably they're hiring them out.
If this carries on we may need a community goal to stop VEP before they declare war on the galaxy.
The ground combat sites are actually VEP vs DCVN although I only got the option to join while in ship.
After joining DCVN and dismissing the ship the troops started arriving (the area had been clear as I approached, control points but no people).
The fight started, all targets were unscanned and there were no friend markers, I could also not affect the control points but CBs were scored for kills. There was also no score board, but I think we were winning,
I decided to die and get a drop ship back to see if that would "reboot" the missing details. On dying however I respawned in my ship above the planet. All the CBs are for DVCN so that will help in their non existent war.
Just for fun the Frontline Rep offers V Empire Party vs V Holdings ground sites but won't provide a drop ship when you sign up.
After joining DCVN and dismissing the ship the troops started arriving (the area had been clear as I approached, control points but no people).
The fight started, all targets were unscanned and there were no friend markers, I could also not affect the control points but CBs were scored for kills. There was also no score board, but I think we were winning,
I decided to die and get a drop ship back to see if that would "reboot" the missing details. On dying however I respawned in my ship above the planet. All the CBs are for DVCN so that will help in their non existent war.
Just for fun the Frontline Rep offers V Empire Party vs V Holdings ground sites but won't provide a drop ship when you sign up.
but then another problem arises here: why do we need ships and other things for arx if everything that is usually done on them is broken
The danger with this line of thought is it leads to the idea that many players aren’t doing the things you are doing in the game and are almost unaware of what is broken.but then another problem arises here: why do we need ships and other things for arx if everything that is usually done on them is broken
Yeah, we're only talking the PVE players although we know a few squadrons heavily involved in PP2 that also use the bgs. There are plenty of players out there that couldn't care less about the bgs or have a clue how it's supposed to work
It would be nice if FDev supported all the player types.
Kinda hoping minor factions get merged with squadrons into this Vanguard feature. Right now Minor factions seem pointless. Other than to unlock the random rare... Wish they did something cooler. Like... Invite you into the Dark Wheel or something and then sent you off on your own player long chain quest.
We keep a close eye on minor factions, especially our prized non natives. Without them the mission board would be pointless - unless you're just using it to make credits.
Wars between minor factions open up new game play styles with combat zones in space and on the ground.
Also kinda hoping that Vanguards will give us the chance to define our own missions to aid factions, both minor and pmf. We'll find out at some point but I'd love the game to be working as it should in the meantime. The only thing I use the mission board for these days are poll missions that I hope will terminate in a newly colonized system because they all actually work.
A few members of the squadron have moved out to the Snake Sector and are building a small OoM bubble out there. It's a pain in the a** for shopping trips but missions actually work out there.
Great, but fix what they broke while we wait please.
I think this affects everyone, even those who don't play bgs & pp, for example: missions "destroy 12 drones in a settlement" - this is an Oddy settlement and there may not be any, and if there are, then a maximum of 1-2, i.e. either this is a completely impossible mission or you need to do 12 relogs, which is hardly intended. Here's another example: "kill a famous pirate" and you need to meet a contact, he often doesn't show up at all (you have to relog or jump into the system again) or he makes an appointment in the crown of a star or flies around endlessly and doesn't make an appointment, it got to the point where you had to intercept him. All this takes a lot of time and is also unlikely to be intended that way.Yeah, we're only talking the PVE players although we know a few squadrons heavily involved in PP2 that also use the bgs. There are plenty of players out there that couldn't care less about the bgs or have a clue how it's supposed to work
It would be nice if FDev supported all the player types.
Because the BGS is the best they ever made. Notice PP got 2 bites at the cherry.
Not everyone.
Some of us don’t bother with missions.
Though I occasionally make an exception for station rescues, at least until the passengers start to talk to much.
There have been issue trackers for the various problems over the last few months. I think the Vistaenis situation, with multiple fights for the same faction, is a new one but as the others have't been addressed what's the point in raising it?
Because they’re more likely to respond to the issue tracker than a forum post.
Yes, in theory. Hasn't got anywheree so far though
This one has been annoying me.I've been waiting to put my faction in control before building a tier 3 in my main system...
A war has been pending for two weeks now - my squadron were ready and waiting to take part in the fight...but I think they've all got bored and started doing other things now
Yes, in theory. Hasn't got anywheree so far though
This kinda implies the fix is like flicking a switch. Who knows what damage PP2.0 did to the BGS code.
I’ve been around long enough to know what FDev are like, so I’m not White Knighting but it does often seem like people would rather complain on the forums for months than add to the issue tracker.
these issue are several years old, as are tickets, since then nothing has been fixed, here is an example