Modes Why no mode exclusive content?

Its not. Otherwise people wouldn't be min maxing in SOLO purposely to affect the BGS. From some unknown reason SOLO undermining both in PP and BGS is a common occurrence. I wonder why this happens if not to avoid direct PvP opposition.


You're trying to stop the problem with the wrong gameplay! Stop using a hammer for screws!
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Doesn't matter. All that matters is how the game was designed.

But you just said that PvP is useless in BGS, PvP is what makes people to flee into SOLO to avoid being slaughtered which will result in failure in the BGS missions. So are we getting somewhere? PvP suddenly becomes meaningful and very usefull in BGS.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
You're trying to stop the problem with the wrong gameplay! Stop using a hammer for screws!

If you die 10 times per night due to real oppositon you will fail your BGS stop pretending you dont understand. The modes are an unfair advantage, stop giving me excuses that "PvP is useless in BGS".
 
Are you his personal spokesman?


Doesn't need one, but always good to point out the crap your trying to shovel. I notice you didn't answer my question though.

You think that anyone NOT in open playing the BGS is akin to someone robbing you. So does that mean when you grief others in open, as you admitted to doing, that it is akin to you committing a sexual assault against them?
 
Neither. Because we're playing a computer game.

As a test of bravery, anything I can do whilst sitting on my backside in my spare room sipping a beer isn't actually setting any criteria against which a judgement can be made. It's pretty funny that some people seem to think otherwise.


Which was part of my point, but he loves to throw the word around thinking it means something. So using his "definition" of it it is easy to point out his own "cowardliness"
 
If you die 10 times per night due to real oppositon you will fail your BGS stop pretending you dont understand. The modes are an unfair advantage, stop giving me excuses that "PvP is useless in BGS".


LOL. Like you really expect to see someone ten times..in THIS game! LOL! Between broken instances, personal choices/blocking in Open...and crap internet throughout the world..good luck. I WISH we could have stopped someone 10 times in the Lugh War...but, alas, as the devs explained to us..the game is based on what the game is based on..and NEVER will be anything else!

Get that screwdriver out...you will enjoy the game a lot more!
 
You think that anyone NOT in open playing the BGS is akin to someone robbing you. So does that mean when you grief others in open, as you admitted to doing, that it is akin to you committing a sexual assault against them?


I'm sure I made a point along these lines about two years ago (and I got into trouble for it, rather ludicrously. Ah, but those were my younger days as a raconteur). The two sides of this debate won't ever reconcile. This is such a shame as it means people like your good self have to perpetually battle against the wind and fury to keep these ridiculous ideas from propagating.

Bless you, Mouse. 5 tons of fresh fried bacon, on the house. <3
 
If you die 10 times per night due to real oppositon you will fail your BGS stop pretending you dont understand. The modes are an unfair advantage, stop giving me excuses that "PvP is useless in BGS".

The fundamental problem you're having here is that what you want the game to be is clearly not what the people who actually create the game want it to be. Once you accept that fact, all you're doing every time you get wound up enough about it to pile into a thread on here is torturing yourself for no reason because you are never, ever going to get what you want.

I'm going to say this very clearly so you understand it and don't go off on a tangent. I am NOT saying that what you want this aspect of the game to be is 'wrong'. It can't be 'wrong' any more than it can be 'right' because it's entirely subjective.

On top of that, it might surprise you but I actually lean quite strongly towards thinking that powerplay should probably have been open-only. Reason being it's about the only content in the game that actually provides some sort of coherent structure for activity that's a naturally good fit with PVP. I think it was actually a huge missed opportunity to deliver exactly the 'meaningful' PVP that DB talked about back in the day.

But they didn't.

It ain't going to change. Not now. Doesn't matter how much you think it would help, doesn't matter how much fun you think it would be, doesn't matter how lame you think it is now. If making powerplay primarily an open activity could somehow cure cancer and unlock the secrets of cold fusion, they still wouldn't do it.

Understanding doesn't change that either.

Seriously, if you have even one iota of hope that it might change, try to lose it as fast as possible because all you're going to do is get increasingly furious and bitter about it when it doesn't. And it won't.

A PVP player should know better than anyone how stupid it is to waste energy and resources on a fight that you can never win. If I was you, I'd pick a different battle because surely by now you can see that this one is only ever going to bring you disappointment.
 
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ALGOMATIC

Banned
Doesn't need one, but always good to point out the crap your trying to shovel. I notice you didn't answer my question though.

You think that anyone NOT in open playing the BGS is akin to someone robbing you. So does that mean when you grief others in open, as you admitted to doing, that it is akin to you committing a sexual assault against them?

Yes
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
The fundamental problem you're having here is that what you want the game to be is clearly not what the people who actually create the game want it to be. Once you accept that fact, all you're doing every time you get wound up enough about it to pile into a thread on here is torturing yourself for no reason because you are never, ever going to get what you want.

I'm going to say this very clearly so you understand it and don't go off on a tangent. I am NOT saying that what you want this aspect of the game to be is 'wrong'. It can't be 'wrong' any more than it can be 'right' because it's entirely subjective. On top of that, it might surprise you but I actually lean quite strongly towards thinking that powerplay should probably have been open-only. Reason being it's about the only content in the game that actually provides some sort of structure for activity that's a naturally good fit with PVP. I think it was actually a huge missed opportunity to deliver exactly the 'meaningful' PVP that DB talked about back in the day.

But they didn't.

It ain't going to change. Not now. Doesn't matter how much you think it would help, doesn't matter how much fun you think it would be, doesn't matter how lame you think it is now. If making powerplay primarily an open activity could somehow cure cancer and unlock the secrets of cold fusion, they still wouldn't do it.

Understanding doesn't change that either.

Seriously, if you have even one iota of hope that it might change, try to lose it as fast as possible because all you're going to do is get increasingly furious and bitter about it when it doesn't. And it won't.

A PVP player should know better than anyone how stupid it is to waste energy and resources on a fight that you can never win. If I was you, I'd pick a different battle because surely by now you can see that this one is only ever going to bring you disappointment.

Thats great hyperbolic answer that has nothing to do with what I said. I said that PvP can be usefull in BGS wars, why did you write me this theoretical unrelated story about what this game should or could and cannot be.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
I'm sure I made a point along these lines about two years ago (and I got into trouble for it, rather ludicrously. Ah, but those were my younger days as a raconteur). The two sides of this debate won't ever reconcile. This is such a shame as it means people like your good self have to perpetually battle against the wind and fury to keep these ridiculous ideas from propagating.

Bless you, Mouse. 5 tons of fresh fried bacon, on the house. <3

I just gave you a RL exsmple representation of the imbalance of the BGS system because of the modes that has nothing to do with PvP. All you or anyone here is giving me lectures of theoretical nonesence about things they have no clue about.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Because I temporarily forgot what a you are. Cheers for the reminder.

Game over, personal insults, Off to solo peasnt.

Won this forum pvp as well. Do any of you play this game because it seems like you have no idea about the subject, one genius is trying to duel me in CQC... the other telling me that PvP has no use in BGS while hiding in SOLO undermining becsuse of said PvP, Jesus, you are making too easy.
 
You dont know crap, ....

Says the person who bought a game for the sole reason of griefing, completely missing the fact it advertised we don't have to play with you.
I mean, you don't need to be Einstein to figure out that wouldn't work.

Hint: It's better for people to think you're stupid, than open your mouth and prove it.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Says the person who bought a game for the sole reason of griefing, completely missing the fact it advertised we don't have to play with you.
I mean, you don't need to be Einstein to figure out that wouldn't work.

Hint: It's better for people to think you're stupid, than open your mouth and prove it.

Only the thing is I know both how to PVE and PvP better than you. All you know is how to write on the Modes section on the forums.
 
I just gave you a RL exsmple representation of the imbalance of the BGS system because of the modes that has nothing to do with PvP. All you or anyone here is giving me lectures of theoretical nonesence about things they have no clue about.


Thank you for admitting what you are, yet it does not change that your "Real life Example" is not even relevant to the game what so ever and is the theoretical nonsense you claim others are giving you as you demonstrate that you are the one who truly doesn't have a clue.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
I would love it. I do ask though why some comments like the ones Algo have made are allowed in the first place?

Like what? Calling someone a ? Oh wait it wasnt me.

Thank you for admitting what you are, yet it does not change that your "Real life Example" is not even relevant to the game what so ever and is the theoretical nonsense you claim others are giving you as you demonstrate that you are the one who truly doesn't have a clue.

Its very relevant, its exactly how it is, unless you can give me some counter arguments.
 
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