Will there be additional bug fix patches between update 5 and console release?

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I'm gunna give a prize to any Commander who can quote me for the 6th time on what my answer might be to this, after all of my other replies of the same type today :') You folks are really loving sending me this one today!

I genuinely do feel terrible that it has to sound like such a canned response...but I really can't answer that kind of question casually in a forum thread response. It would never, ever be delivered to you that way - ever ever.
When we can (and trust me...it will be one of the greatest moments of my life too) share that kind of information, it'll be done so in a proper update.


I think you've done your part Sally and I understand where you are at.

I'll just say I think it was a mistake to have planned a final update without some consideration to 'break-fix' afterwards to address exactly whats been run into where things that were working are broken now. It unfortunate that the final update left things as they are and for at least a sizable group of us made Odyssey too broken to engage with.
 
Rat Catcher I love seeing you about so much, so you absolutely can have a prize.
Have a lovely weekend, i gift it to you. It's yours o7
Permit me to wish the same for you!

I'm flying back to Colonia over the weekend - it'll be great to be 'home'...

Bleat: Of course, I'd never had left if we had foot engineers there! 😭
But I did have a lot of fun with a couple of 'new' playmates while I was in the bubble, so overall good!
 

sallymorganmoore

Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
I think you've done your part Sally and I understand where you are at.

I'll just say I think it was a mistake to have planned a final update without some consideration to 'break-fix' afterwards to address exactly whats been run into where things that were working are broken now. It unfortunate that the final update left things as they are and for at least a sizable group of us made Odyssey too broken to engage with.

I hear you photomankc - I never want you to think I'd sweep anything under the rug that you might say. I always appreciate the thoughts.
Just, for a little longer, leave it with us and I'll keep scurrying with the guys - we will do everything we can across the teams to help drive the right decisions.
I'm desperate to bring you the news you all want, seriously :)
 
They did, in the development post.


There apparently is a road map, but they have to do all kinds of complicated multiple-syllable-word things with it first. And they'll gladly be open and transparant about it once a month.

I did notice that nowhere in the bespoke post were the words, "Defect, Issue, or Bug" mentioned. In the statement they only mentioned dealing with the demands of the unruly mob of irrational and entitled gamers who unreasonably want changes. Lets get the verbiage straight, okay? People are frustrated over 'bugs', that is the only expectation here. Making it sound like the users are entitled Veruca's who unreasonably demand the impossible is kind of passive aggressive histrionics IMO.
 
I hear you photomankc - I never want you to think I'd sweep anything under the rug that you might say. I always appreciate the thoughts.
Just, for a little longer, leave it with us and I'll keep scurrying with the guys - we will do everything we can across the teams to help drive the right decisions.
I'm desperate to bring you the news you all want, seriously :)
I have said it before, and will, assure you again that what I want is just things to be fixed, EDO is so almost wonderful, and it is because so many of us are passionate about the game in all its iterations that we stick around and believe in all the work that the team and yourself are doing. A huge thank you to you for stiving so hard, even on well-earned days off and your genuine passion for the game is very evident.
 
Honestly I don't think anyone wants this expansion to walk on water. We just want our frames per second back and for bugs to be fixed.

We're almost there! I've been trying for three days to capture a multiplayer Orange Sidewinder in a netlog but (of course, after I raised a big fuss over it) now it's being elusive.

But you know what? All that meant was we got to actually play the game, and it was fun!
 
This is one of the most dishonest releases I have seen since H1Z1.
A true embarrassment of this otherwise, well-respected company.

I will not spend another dime on any fdev product whatsoever until this is somehow rectified.
 

sallymorganmoore

Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
I have said it before, and will, assure you again that what I want is just things to be fixed, EDO is so almost wonderful, and it is because so many of us are passionate about the game in all its iterations that we stick around and believe in all the work that the team and yourself are doing. A huge thank you to you for stiving so hard, even on well-earned days off and your genuine passion for the game is very evident.

Ohhh I can't thank you enough for this. Personally from me for how diligent and committed you are with helping me keep track of things literally flying into my face by the 100s each day! Without that cooperation I would really struggle.

Know that I entirely do respect your pain comes from passion and anything myself and the team can help with, within our power, we will.

Have a great weekend o7
 
Ohhh I can't thank you enough for this. Personally from me for how diligent and committed you are with helping me keep track of things literally flying into my face by the 100s each day! Without that cooperation I would really struggle.

Know that I entirely do respect your pain comes from passion and anything myself and the team can help with, within our power, we will.

Have a great weekend o7
thank you... will try! and you have a great weekend as well
 
Heya BM, hope you're doing good.

Really appreciate this thread and although we can't always provide solid dates, deadlines and specifics on immediate further updates right now, due to ongoing internal conversations, we do want to keep reassuring you all that we are aware of the remaining issues and they won't just get thrown to the waste side willy-nilly.
I for one with the rest of the CMs will continue to forrage feedback and check issues in the tracker whilst keeping as strong a bond as possible with you all, because it's so flipping valuable that our next steps are the right ones.

"We are actively investigating, reviewing, and remeasuring the further roadmap but these things will take a little time." - This line you quoted still totally stands, basically. Really will update you all as soon as we get the green light to do so on that news :)
"Really appreciate this thread and although we can't always provide solid dates, deadlines and specifics on immediate further updates right now, due to ongoing internal conversations, we do want to keep reassuring you all that we are aware of the remaining issues and they won't just get thrown to the waste side willy-nilly."

And why dont you make an official pinned statement that FD will releasing one ore more updates before console release but dont know when?

Since most of us now are under the impression that update 5 was the last one until console release. (and the game still doesnt work good - under 30fps in settlements still)

We dont want exact dates BUT we want some updates that you are working on fixes and that you are aware / communicating internally what the future brings and so on. I just cant understand the dead silence...

you quoted post was good info but why do i have to stalk random threads for something this crucial?
 
Heya BM, hope you're doing good.

Really appreciate this thread and although we can't always provide solid dates, deadlines and specifics on immediate further updates right now, due to ongoing internal conversations, we do want to keep reassuring you all that we are aware of the remaining issues and they won't just get thrown to the waste side willy-nilly.
I for one with the rest of the CMs will continue to forage feedback and check issues in the tracker whilst keeping as strong a bond as possible with you all, because it's so flipping valuable that our next steps are the right ones.

"We are actively investigating, reviewing, and remeasuring the further roadmap but these things will take a little time." - This line you quoted still totally stands, basically. Really will update you all as soon as we get the green light to do so on that news :)
Hiya Sally thanks for being our light in the dark, so you are worth a little light hearted humour, " I can loan you guys my latest tom-tom to measure your road maps" can't guarantee it wont take you over edge of a pier though. But as your are our bright star, you wouldn't follow it blindly.

Kind regards
 
I did notice that nowhere in the bespoke post were the words, "Defect, Issue, or Bug" mentioned. In the statement they only mentioned dealing with the demands of the unruly mob of irrational and entitled gamers who unreasonably want changes. Lets get the verbiage straight, okay? People are frustrated over 'bugs', that is the only expectation here. Making it sound like the users are entitled Veruca's who unreasonably demand the impossible is kind of passive aggressive histrionics IMO.
Well, personally I like dark humour, so seeing the calls for bug fixes being labelled as "community requests" got a pretty decent chuckle out of me.
 
There are still the following Bugs in the Game which are really a pain:

1.) Targets missing on many salvage missions e.g. Crash Site Locations and Irregular Markers on Planets.
You always have to cancel these missions.

2.) Regular Crashes on Target Selection in System Map.

3.) Still sometimes endless cruising with Apex shuttle around Ring Planets - not very often but the Savegame is broken!
Login into Horizon does not help!


Please fix these Bugs! It prevents from having Fun with the Game and is Pure Frustration!

Thank you
 
4.) Just loaded my Savegame at a planetary Crash Site to get weapon schematics from Irregeular Markers.
I've opened three Big Containers with plasma cutter and also the crashed ship, got inside and extracted three weapon plans from the boxes. Nothing else there.

After loading a Savegame at Target Location the Mission target won't switch to accomplished even if you've got the object - you have to cancel the mission and get a penalty even by having done everything correctly! Frustrating!
 
Please add bugs to the issue tracker and if you are mad enough about them and want them fixed faster why not add the link to the issue tracker so that others can also add their voice and get it seen sooner.
 
And this is why the popularity contest design of the issue tracker is so very damaging. Issue 40859 is a duplicate of 40598 and 39883. Every time someone fails to find the earlier reports, the effort required to get that bug acknowledged multiplies. By the way, Fdev have acknowledged that particular bug and asked for more information, but it's really rather unclear if that information helps them; I've submitted a sample, as I'm sure have others, but that isn't clear.
 
And this is why the popularity contest design of the issue tracker is so very damaging. Issue 40859 is a duplicate of 40598 and 39883. Every time someone fails to find the earlier reports, the effort required to get that bug acknowledged multiplies. By the way, Fdev have acknowledged that particular bug and asked for more information, but it's really rather unclear if that information helps them; I've submitted a sample, as I'm sure have others, but that isn't clear.
It doesn't help that when you search for a problem and find none, but go to submit a problem it then finds 4 others like yours. The search function is bwoken. Zach is aware and said the devs are working on a solution though so let's hope so.
 
And this is why the popularity contest design of the issue tracker is so very damaging. Issue 40859 is a duplicate of 40598 and 39883. Every time someone fails to find the earlier reports, the effort required to get that bug acknowledged multiplies. By the way, Fdev have acknowledged that particular bug and asked for more information, but it's really rather unclear if that information helps them; I've submitted a sample, as I'm sure have others, but that isn't clear.
There have been some similar issues reported months ago e.g. for Update 2 of the game.
But - if this issue persists even after update 5, well I've connected it again to the current state of the Game.
Or can we assume that Fdev is still working on a backlog from Update 2 Reports? :unsure:
 
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