Will VR be a big boost

And another thing...

Fads.

3D TV... Yeah, how many of them do you see sitting in the pawn shops.

You know they're are already reports of players so immersed they're ending up in hospital right.

GO OUTSIDE! IMMERSION! HILLS AND MOUNTAINS AND VALLEYS AND LAKES AND OCEANS AND DESERTS AND BEACHES AND SKIES AND TREES AND HEDGES AND GREEN FIELDS...

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I despair at the Human Race I really do.

All racing to your own Matrix existence like demented, manipulated drug induced lemmings.

VR is not even remotely like 3D TV's or Cinema's. Funny that you mentioned the matrix, it is much closer to that spectrum, a scary thought when you consider this is just the beginning, but quite amazing at the same time considering we have free will to enter and exit potentially infinite environments whenever we want.

My initial thought was this will be huge with corporations, hospitals, airline training centers etc, that is pretty much what you are seeing in many parts of the world.

As far as gaming goes, I have a triple screen setup, my DK2 & Ordered CV1 combined cost less than 1 of those screens, so cost is a moot point, most gamers with disposable incomes will spend money on a good screen at some point.

As far as spending money on a beast card, asynchronous timewarp has pretty much solved that issue for CV1 users, the performance boost is massive, check the VR forums, people are running ultra on 970's, moderate settings on lower end cards. My plan was to get a Pascal, I'll be sticking with a 980TI for a while now.

It is certainly not a fad, the leap is bigger than going from top down early GTA style games to viewing full environments in the newer versions. You are there in 1:1 scale, not merely watching a screen.

Thankfully mate, I am less than 2 minutes from a beach, and 1 hour drive from some of the most amazing Deserts & Canyons on the planet. I do miss green fields though, have to wait for my Summer fix in good ol England ;)

Have to admit, you do sound like a bit of an old grumpy technophobe. My old man was quite anti technology, retired F4 Phantom & Jaguar pilot, Just writes books now, slightly worried about keeping himself amused in his old age. Showed him DCS and demoed VR, he was blown away, plan is to build him a VR/HOTAS simulator rig to help keep him entertained during those long winters up in Northern UK.
 
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Yup, nothing like hoping a gaming peripheral best suited to a niche market with money to burn is going to 'save' FD and the future of Elite Dangerous.
I also imagine all those players who can afford it, are also heavily invested in Space Person and will probably leave Ed for dust when that game eventually turns up.

Space Person?
 
This game really is amazing in VR. Its fine with a 2d monitor, but its so much better in VR, and going back to monitor is only ok if your doing something a bit tedious like travelling 300Ly and want to watch TV in the background.

With the latest update they made big improvements to the VR side too, I just wish that they hadn't wasted time replacing a perfectly good menu background and instead fixed the ultimately broken galaxy map. In VR the Galaxy map is a PITA to use. they just need to stop the oculus moving the imaginary mouse in it and everything would be great.
 
This game really is amazing in VR. Its fine with a 2d monitor, but its so much better in VR, and going back to monitor is only ok if your doing something a bit tedious like travelling 300Ly and want to watch TV in the background.

With the latest update they made big improvements to the VR side too, I just wish that they hadn't wasted time replacing a perfectly good menu background and instead fixed the ultimately broken galaxy map. In VR the Galaxy map is a PITA to use. they just need to stop the oculus moving the imaginary mouse in it and everything would be great.

Asign it all to your HOTAS, I've never touched the mouse to navigate the galmap in VR except to left click and rotate my view. Some good instructions over on the VR forum
 
So Elite Dangerous has another advertising spurt.

It is being advertised currently on steam with just a handful of other games as a VR game.

Maybe June or July when all features required for serious VR playing have been released with the 2.1 Update. As it stands now you have to take off your VR set each time you need to plan a route that is further than a jump and which you dont have memorized. Not so well for the immersion. Aside from that VR is really great in Elite, best game so far.
 
VR will be a huge leap forward for gaming in general. Ive owned my dk2 for 12 months and it's still wow. Even the new ride at Alton towers is Vr on a track it will grab hold quicker than some people think
 
VR is not even remotely like 3D TV's or Cinema's. Funny that you mentioned the matrix, it is much closer to that spectrum, a scary thought when you consider this is just the beginning, but quite amazing at the same time considering we have free will to enter and exit potentially infinite environments whenever we want.

My initial thought was this will be huge with corporations, hospitals, airline training centers etc, that is pretty much what you are seeing in many parts of the world.

As far as gaming goes, I have a triple screen setup, my DK2 & Ordered CV1 combined cost less than 1 of those screens, so cost is a moot point, most gamers with disposable incomes will spend money on a good screen at some point.

As far as spending money on a beast card, asynchronous timewarp has pretty much solved that issue for CV1 users, the performance boost is massive, check the VR forums, people are running ultra on 970's, moderate settings on lower end cards. My plan was to get a Pascal, I'll be sticking with a 980TI for a while now.

It is certainly not a fad, the leap is bigger than going from top down early GTA style games to viewing full environments in the newer versions. You are there in 1:1 scale, not merely watching a screen.

Thankfully mate, I am less than 2 minutes from a beach, and 1 hour drive from some of the most amazing Deserts & Canyons on the planet. I do miss green fields though, have to wait for my Summer fix in good ol England ;)

Have to admit, you do sound like a bit of an old grumpy technophobe. My old man was quite anti technology, retired F4 Phantom & Jaguar pilot, Just writes books now, slightly worried about keeping himself amused in his old age. Showed him DCS and demoed VR, he was blown away, plan is to build him a VR/HOTAS simulator rig to help keep him entertained during those long winters up in Northern UK.

Interesting to know what proportion of gamers go for VR at launch..my view is that it is a very small percentage - this is cutting edge hardcore stuff imo.
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You talk like everyone should do it, otherwise they are idiots!..Some of us have other pastimes you know! I've just spent £1800 on Yonex irons & Callaway woods, not to mention my memberships of the 2 golf courses - so no room in my entertainment budget this year :D
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Maybe next year!
 
Interesting analytics behind the cost of the VR world. I do not believe prices will be shifting any time soon. Like folks mentioned it's niche audience focused.

Personally haven't upgraded my monitor since I heard about VR, I could splash £300 on a half decent one, but then again do I need it? not really my old 24 is ok, it works well. Then I ask if HTC are asking +/- £700 for a Vive, then if I subtract what I would have spent on a new monitor, it leaves about £400. Work gave me £350 amazon vouchers randomly for a contract I saved with one of the investment bank clients, and ergo leaves £50 for me to pay. Will I pay £50 for a HTC Vive? hell yeah.

Is it worth investing that money on visual hardware that will take games like ED, Subnautica etc to a new new new world, absolutely.

I'm actually thinking that the VR world will be the hook ED desperately needs to cement the lacking content.
 
Asign it all to your HOTAS, I've never touched the mouse to navigate the galmap in VR except to left click and rotate my view. Some good instructions over on the VR forum

Yes it is easier with hotas controls but I find I have to keep my head DEAD still to be able to use it, as any movement with the headset moves the imaginary mouse and de-highlights the selected system. Do you not find this also or have you got a work around for this? perhaps I'm just doing it wrong.
 
Here's an interesting thing: ED players seem to fall into two camps: The 'experience' folk and the 'progression' folk. The progression group tend to complain that there's not enough to do. Will VR headset owners, due to the increased immersion, tend towards becoming 'experience' players, and be more satisfied?

I've been playing since Premium Beta in 2d and with a lashed up Cardboard headset since January and I'm happy to just chug around in a freighter, admiring the view.
 
Interesting to know what proportion of gamers go for VR at launch..my view is that it is a very small percentage - this is cutting edge hardcore stuff imo.
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You talk like everyone should do it, otherwise they are idiots!..Some of us have other pastimes you know! I've just spent £1800 on Yonex irons & Callaway woods, not to mention my memberships of the 2 golf courses - so no room in my entertainment budget this year :D
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Maybe next year!

Oh not at all, I think everyone should try it at least once or get a demo from a friend, especially the naysayers. Am not implying that people are idiots for not having VR :/ I wouldn't judge anyone for not using a HOTAS, or avoiding a triple screen setup due to budgets.

Whatever works best for you within your budget, personally I've saved money going down the VR route, normally I would be upgrading my screens, heck I even purchased a big projector a few years back trying to increase immersion. One little HMD blew all of that out of the water in an instant, greatly exceeding what I thought was possible with today's technology.
 
While VR does definitely add a lot to ED, it is not a cheap option. I was lucky in that a year ago I got a large PPI payout (I had been paying PPI for 10 years or more on a credit card when I had not asked for it), and so my PC got a drastic upgrade (including a pair of Asus Strix GTX970 Graphics Cards). This was well over £1,000 I spent on the PC. This included £350 I spent on a second hand DK2.

Saying that, my experience of VR is that it adds immensely to ED. I knew the Anaconda was large, now I KNOW that the bridge alone is larger than my bedroom, I am scared to stand up in a hurry when I am out in one of my Sidewinders in case I crack my head against the canopy, the view from the cockpit of my Asp Explorer is mind blowing, and when I start taking heat damage I have found myself flapping my hands to try and clear the smoke! Yes, there are glitches, but the experience is, on the whole, incredible.

For those who are on a budget, and still want to add VR to their gaming fun, Deepoon (a Chinese company) has launched the E2, based on the DK2. There is a thread on it, and here is the link;

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=232671
 
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Yes it is easier with hotas controls but I find I have to keep my head DEAD still to be able to use it, as any movement with the headset moves the imaginary mouse and de-highlights the selected system. Do you not find this also or have you got a work around for this? perhaps I'm just doing it wrong.

I read a post about a cmdr having this issue, no it's not something I see. Check the VR forums, am pretty sure a solution was posted.
 
That's awesome. Now where's that $1000 I had spare to buy one...

Oh... Rent. Gas. Electric. Loan. Car. Second car. Bigass TV and surround system. Anything the wife wants...

That's me out. But still, Elite Dangerous. Bare Naked Elite Dangerous.. None of that 100% immersion for me. And that makes me the better pilot. I look left I see my cat. I look right I see my Star Wars poster. I look up, ceiling needs painting. I look down... Purple underwear.
Oh... Boom. Damn you spinning spacestation.

I just gave a rep first time ever since I joined these forums. Well done, sir ;)

ED is far bottom of my list of priorities to even consider VR. I haven't even upgraded my monitor since 2004 yet. Last year I upgraded the PC components to i7 4.4GHz,GTX780Ti,32GB RAM because it was way overdue for everything even the operating system itself. It I went VR route then apart from the cost of VR I would also need to invest another 150 quid for a joystick with enough switches that would cover all the current key bindings, as there is no way I would find a key on my keyboard with my eyes covered (with the exception of a Space Bar maybe), not to mention I would have to learn to play the game again ;)
 
Here's an interesting thing: ED players seem to fall into two camps: The 'experience' folk and the 'progression' folk. The progression group tend to complain that there's not enough to do. Will VR headset owners, due to the increased immersion, tend towards becoming 'experience' players, and be more satisfied?

I've been playing since Premium Beta in 2d and with a lashed up Cardboard headset since January and I'm happy to just chug around in a freighter, admiring the view.

You're right, but, everything in ED is cemented by 'the grind'. The grind is not fun, and it's mandatory, else content is locked out to you.

I know for me, VR will bring a new dimension of immersion. Which is needed.

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I just gave a rep first time ever since I joined these forums. Well done, sir ;)

ED is far bottom of my list of priorities to even consider VR. I haven't even upgraded my monitor since 2004 yet. Last year I upgraded the PC components to i7 4.4GHz,GTX780Ti,32GB RAM because it was way overdue for everything even the operating system itself. It I went VR route then apart from the cost of VR I would also need to invest another 150 quid for a joystick with enough switches that would cover all the current key bindings, as there is no way I would find a key on my keyboard with my eyes covered (with the exception of a Space Bar maybe), not to mention I would have to learn to play the game again ;)

Voice attack!
 
I just gave a rep first time ever since I joined these forums. Well done, sir ;)

ED is far bottom of my list of priorities to even consider VR. I haven't even upgraded my monitor since 2004 yet. Last year I upgraded the PC components to i7 4.4GHz,GTX780Ti,32GB RAM because it was way overdue for everything even the operating system itself. It I went VR route then apart from the cost of VR I would also need to invest another 150 quid for a joystick with enough switches that would cover all the current key bindings, as there is no way I would find a key on my keyboard with my eyes covered (with the exception of a Space Bar maybe), not to mention I would have to learn to play the game again ;)

If you do decide to go the VR route, and you can find a reliable one (might take a few goes though) the Saitek (read Mad Catz) X52 is a good choice, partly because it is the one the in game controls are based on. For the keyboard issue, there are a couple of keys that are tactile marked; "F", "J", and numeric pad "5". I know the layout of the keyboard, but when I want to type out a long message I take off the headset, line it up properly, and then use my monitor to type by.
 
You're right, but, everything in ED is cemented by 'the grind'. The grind is not fun, and it's mandatory, else content is locked out to you.

I know for me, VR will bring a new dimension of immersion. Which is needed.

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Voice attack!

Er, there is no grind, and there isn't any content I can think of that is locked from you even in an Eagle or Sidewinder. Only a few ships are locked behind a reputation wall, but then you still don't have to grind to get them. You can grind to get them faster, but thats a choice you make. I have an Imperial Clipper and haven't done any grind to get it. Just did the many varied stuff I enjoy doing and slowly ranked up.

I can't wait to get an Oculus Rift CV1 myself.
 
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