A tuned-to-the-hilt? 22-23.
Will you ditch the Python for the Chieftain
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A tuned-to-the-hilt? 22-23.
The Chieftain in explorer trim, engineered, will probably do just a tad over 30 lys range. Quite a bit less than the T10 is capable of, but slightly more than average for pure combat vessels.
With only five internals though you can't fit everything needed for deep space exploration (ADS, DSS, SRV, Shield, AFMU, and scoop). You could drop the AFMU of course but then you forego neutron jumps. Lose the shield and you gradually destroy the ship landing on planets. It's in the same boat the DBX used to be before 2.2: not being able to carry enough equipment for exploration.
Although it just occured to me, that 20lys range in the stream was in a loaded Chieftain. Stripped to the core and D rated it would do better than 20lys, so it might make a decent jump range afterall.
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I think it's going to be a competitor with the FDL for sure but in different ways. The FDL in my opinion is more like an upgraded Viper in maneuverability and speed for it's size (and comparatively stronger as well). I'm hoping the Chieftain will be more similar to the Vulture in that it has better turning and vertical/horizontal thrusters.
No I won't.
I primarily run missions, and my Python, Elegance of Purpose, is a true multi-role ship. It can haul cargo and passengers, raid planetary bases, fight off pirate attacks, and can even do a bit of salvaging via its collector limpets.
The Chieften has three, count them, three dedicated military slots. Those are essentially wasted slots for what I use the Python for.
I primarily run missions, and my Python, Elegance of Purpose, is a true multi-role ship. It can haul cargo and passengers, raid planetary bases, fight off pirate attacks, and can even do a bit of salvaging via its collector limpets.
The Chieften has three, count them, three dedicated military slots. Those are essentially wasted slots for what I use the Python for.
I don't have a Python at the moment, but I will be buying a Chieftain, that's for sure.
Around 20 LY to 23 LY if I recall. It looks like it'll have a good jump range by default though if it's getting around 20 LY by default without any engineering upgrades.
If anything, I'm kind of glad this ship is looking like an upgraded Vulture in performance. It's once of my favorite ships to fly so I'll definitely get a Chieftain to play around with at the very least.0
I'll still keep my Python though as I use it as my anti-thargoid ship or as my medium sized armed trader. I'm at the point in the game where I got enough cash that I'm really just collecting ships at the moment.
The fact the Clipper is a large pad ship drives me insane, I'd fly mine much more often and finish engineering it if was medium pad capable. Having said that, I assume the only reason it has a class 7 slot is because it's a large pad ship - for me I'd actually get more use out of it if it had 2 x class 6 slots in place of the class 7 but I know that class 7 slot is a big selling point to a lot of players who use the ship for combat. Who knows, one day they might give us slot-splitting which to be honest, I'd probably take in preference to about 75% of engineering.
I didn't see the stream but this is making it sound pretty much like an Alliance FAS.
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It has a better armament than the FAS with 2 large, 1 medium and 3 small hardpoints (FAS has 2 Large and 2 medium hardpoints). It also has 3 military slots so it can tank with armor quite well it looks like. If the shields are good then it could essentially be a step above the FAS as well and you could have the choice in using either armor or shields.The fact the Clipper is a large pad ship drives me insane, I'd fly mine much more often and finish engineering it if was medium pad capable. Having said that, I assume the only reason it has a class 7 slot is because it's a large pad ship - for me I'd actually get more use out of it if it had 2 x class 6 slots in place of the class 7 but I know that class 7 slot is a big selling point to a lot of players who use the ship for combat. Who knows, one day they might give us slot-splitting which to be honest, I'd probably take in preference to about 75% of engineering.
I didn't see the stream but this is making it sound pretty much like an Alliance FAS.
Sure. Sorry. It's a fighting ship. So that about answers it I think, internals wise? Frontier don't build range potential into fighting ships. Except anaconda.
No malice intended, but the hints frontier gave, suggested it was going to be more fighting related, than anything else. Believe me; I'd have loved another range master with good internals for exploration. But I think quarter four, when exploration is supposedly front-and-center, would be the logical expectation for such a ship.
Given people are trying to turn every new ship into an explorer, it's a fair bet Frontier know we want one. It's just how critical do they think that is? That's probably the more relevant question. Because until it's a focal point, I just don't think we'll see another long-range generalist that makes a good explorer.
Frontier moves in mysterious ways.
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Sure. Sorry. It's a fighting ship. So that about answers it I think? Frontier don't build range potential into fighting ships. Except anaconda.
No malice intended, but the hints frontier gave, suggested it was going to be more fighting related, than anything else. Believe me; I'd have loved another range master with good internals for exploration. But I think quarter four, when exploration is supposedly front-and-center, would be the logical expectation for such a ship.
Given people are trying to turn every new ship into an explorer, it's a fair bet Frontier know we want one. It's just how critical do they think that is? That's probably the more relevant question. Because until it's a focal point, I just don't think we'll see another long-range generalist that makes a good explorer.
Frontier moves in mysterious ways.
Thanks for your reply
I suspect even if an exploration ship (a pure exploration ship) were designed, different explorers would have different ideas about what would make one special. Even the DBX fell below requirements until it was buffed a little, and even now not everyone uses it.
The beauty of this game is that we have an increasing choice, and can adapt the ships to suit our needs (within certain limitations of course). Some players have taken the T-10 to the furthest reaches of our galaxy, others have taken a Sidewinder !
If the Chieftain turns out to have a very good straight line speed, especially after engineering, it would have its uses in exploring planetary surfaces more quickly than some ships. It will be interesting to see what some explorers do with this ship. I am sure many will take it to make some great discoveries, perceived faults and all.
Personally, the Chieftain design as a specialist fighter is confirming my belief that the T-10 should be my next explorer ship. Unless the Beta shows me otherwise, I shall be kitting the T-10 for a personal journey of discovery, together with SLF, SRV and kitchen sink
Meanwhile, to answer the OP's question, no the Chieftain will definitely not replace my Python. FAS maybe !
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It's not. It can hold 88 tons if you load it up with cargo racks, the same amount a Cobra IV can hold. The Chieftain is a pure combat ship through and through.
That's not really a good comparison, the Anaconda is special since its hull is very light compared to its internals, so taking undersized lightweight modules drastically increases the jump range. The range improvement for an exploration build compared to a multipurpose build isn't nearly as large for other ships.
While I remember? To answer the thread topic?
No.
If it had class 7 distro? Well.. see that would be an entirely different thing, now, wouldn't it. Because that then makes those hardpoints really really flexible; which is the Python's true strength; the large distro.
But Chieftain doesn't. Class 6. And reasonably low internals count. So.. will have to see what role I can use it for.
No.
If it had class 7 distro? Well.. see that would be an entirely different thing, now, wouldn't it. Because that then makes those hardpoints really really flexible; which is the Python's true strength; the large distro.
But Chieftain doesn't. Class 6. And reasonably low internals count. So.. will have to see what role I can use it for.
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Yeah but...
Watcha gonna do with all dat junk,
All dat junk inside dat trunk?
I'm a g-g-g-git choo drunk
The 'conda isn't really a good comparison point. It was designed at a different time, with stats that are now, frankly, laughable. It's 400 tons, with a (relative) large FSD. That ratio, is why it shines. And also why comparisons are a bit moot.
It is a ship design from a different time; we'll not see that again.
After watching the stream, I realize that I failed to catch how much it weighs exactly (600T?), but it looks like it's going to sit somewhere between the Clipper and Courier in terms of speed, and lean more towards a small ship's agility.
It almost looks like a Courier on steroids, which is...damn.
Must have, will have, and a 35 light year jump range isn't out of the question, either. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure we can just use the Clipper in Coriolis, and get a pretty good idea of how The Chieftain will look in Exploration fit.
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It almost looks like a Courier on steroids, which is...damn.
Must have, will have, and a 35 light year jump range isn't out of the question, either. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure we can just use the Clipper in Coriolis, and get a pretty good idea of how The Chieftain will look in Exploration fit.
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