The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Edelgard von Rhein]

I've been slowly catching up on this thread and have had a few thoughts and observations to share.

Hyperspace:
I like the idea of hiding clues here. One thing I have noticed, that I think has only been in the hyperspace sequence since the FSS was introduced, is what seems to be an apparition of the Andromeda galaxy. It appears (always) towards the end of the sequence, alongside what I think is the Triangulum galaxy M33, and I have circled it in yellow on a recent screenshot:

Spoiler

The Raxxla poem:
The third line: The parent's grief, the lover's woe and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.

This stands out as the only line that does not begin with 'To', making me think that it is not referring to a place.
So, if not a place, what it it referring to?
The parent's and the lover's both imply that there is an individual at play: the 'parent' and the 'lover'. So perhaps these are people?
This led me to think of individuals represented in-game who might qualify.
It hit me last night: these might be individuals transcribing the logs from the Generation Ships, as I could think of one or two who might qualify:
Generation Ship Atlas, Charick Drift: the logs were written by a crewmember who had to remain on board whilst his pregnant partner left the ship to start a new life on a new world. This seems to me to be a good match for lover's woe.
Generation Ship Peione, Hez Ur: on this ship there was a problem with the crew only producing male offspring, such that they eventually died out. I think this is a good match for parent's grief.
There are three more Generation Ships that I have yet to visit and I want to do so in person, in case something is secretly unlocked by having the right set of logs. The yearning of our vagabond hearts is less clear at the moment but perhaps you will have some ideas on the subject?

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Thans for the heads up on the faction, I found this:

Minor Faction Daurtu Jet Comms PLC - EDDB

Minor Faction Daurtu Jet Comms PLC in Elite: Dangerous

eddb.io

And re BnB, we know what we know - but I (personally) choose to avoid using it as part of the factors to explain a evidence/fact/link or relation.
It's nice to know, but plans may have changed since 2014/2015 - except we have to assume Raxxle is in game, and that we can access it somehow. Otherwise this journey is pointless.

I think we must ignore all previous lore and only use in-game ED information, which condenses down to the Codex. I think the only external thing we can rely on is MB’s “it’s in the Milky Way”. Condensing further (stripping out what I think is dross/misdirection) the Raxxla Codex entry I think we are down to:

1) The Alleged Toast: "To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void! The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!"

2) “The legend of Raxxla has been circulating, in whispers, for centuries”

3) “The earliest recorded mention of Raxxla dates from 2296”...in Tau Ceti

4) “The earliest documented stories tend to agree on several points, however: that Raxxla is a definite place and that it holds a mystical secret.”

5) “Several versions of the Raxxla story mention an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift, described as a gateway or tunnel through which parallel universes can be accessed. These details, however, were later shown to bear a striking resemblance to the children's story Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars, and soon lost credibility. Undaunted, some Raxxla seekers insisted that the story's author had cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale in his book as hints for those with eyes to see.”

Musings
my own, my very own, personal thoughts about dinosaurs the puzzle:
1 - sounds like it should be a clue, perhaps the start of the Raxxla storyline?
2 - sounds like a joke/pun on the Spiralling Stars from 5....and maybe a hint that is worthy of attention?
3 - I think this just says it’s a very old rumour. This might limit the search range to somewhere near Tau Ceti if Raxxla was actually physically found that early, but I still think this is a red herring and it could have been observed astronomically by telescope (e.g. Gaia space telescope) etc which could put the potential search range out to the edge of the Milky Way. And if it was physically found remember that explorers were getting out to the edge of the galaxy quite soon after game release...(Augustus Branquith? That Tourist Beacon mention sounds like another hint!)
4 - IMHO fluff, apart from telling us it is not Witchspace, or a state of mind, or the friends along the way!
5 - I think this is the heart of the clue!
Omphalos Rift could imply many things (Delphi system, Aquila constellation conical hole, etc etc that people here have explored in various hypotheses), but I think is a hint that Raxxla is accessed by a special mechanism and won’t be found in-game in a system as an object named “Raxxla” (I still think it will be in/an instance downloaded from the FD server when the Omphalos is triggered. This is the obvious way FD would use to foil data miners. I dont the Omphalos will be so named either, for the same reason; it will be hidden as something, or within something, mundane)....

I found the phrase about “the story's author had cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale in his book as hints for those with eyes to see” very suggestive. The only thing we have of that book is the title “Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars”. So, is there an anagram buried therein? (I’ve tried this & there are a lot of possible in-game system names!) . But I still prefer the interpretation that Astrophel is a Black hole and the Spiralling Stars are Neutron Stars or Black holes, both of which spiral in-game. One possibility occurs to me that I’ve not tried for a while... which is the conical hole of the Omphalos implies we should try to fly into the rotating beams (conical hole) of a Neutron Star and approach the neutron core. I’ve tried it once or twice but always got thrown out by the violent motion, and presumably it would have to be the correct NS! If this interpretation is valid then there ought to be something unusual about that particular NS! Unless we have to solve the toast to take us to the correct one.

Edit: I give up on the logo! It’s so obscure it could mean anything. I can imagine it might mean that Raxxla is the name of a hidden space station!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I've been slowly catching up on this thread and have had a few thoughts and observations to share.

Hyperspace:
I like the idea of hiding clues here. One thing I have noticed, that I think has only been in the hyperspace sequence since the FSS was introduced, is what seems to be an apparition of the Andromeda galaxy. It appears (always) towards the end of the sequence, alongside what I think is the Triangulum galaxy M33, and I have circled it in yellow on a recent screenshot:

Spoiler

The Raxxla poem:
The third line: The parent's grief, the lover's woe and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.

This stands out as the only line that does not begin with 'To', making me think that it is not referring to a place.
So, if not a place, what it it referring to?
The parent's and the lover's both imply that there is an individual at play: the 'parent' and the 'lover'. So perhaps these are people?
This led me to think of individuals represented in-game who might qualify.
It hit me last night: these might be individuals transcribing the logs from the Generation Ships, as I could think of one or two who might qualify:
Generation Ship Atlas, Charick Drift: the logs were written by a crewmember who had to remain on board whilst his pregnant partner left the ship to start a new life on a new world. This seems to me to be a good match for lover's woe.
Generation Ship Peione, Hez Ur: on this ship there was a problem with the crew only producing male offspring, such that they eventually died out. I think this is a good match for parent's grief.
There are three more Generation Ships that I have yet to visit and I want to do so in person, in case something is secretly unlocked by having the right set of logs. The yearning of our vagabond hearts is less clear at the moment but perhaps you will have some ideas on the subject?

Interesting!
But note that it’s “parent’s”, which is singular parent (both or many parents would be “parents’ “, unless it’s down to FD grammar again!) so the Generation ship Pleione interpretation wouldn’t fit. But Atlas might well fit. So are there any other mentions of this crewmember? Does the location of that ship somehow fit the preceding parts of the toast? I did get the logs of all the generation ships a while ago but can’t remember anything standing out. Might be worth exploring this hypothesis!

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

Interesting!
But note that it’s “parent’s”, which is singular parent (both or many parents would be “parents’ “, unless it’s down to FD grammar again!) so the Generation ship Pleione interpretation wouldn’t fit. But Atlas might well fit. So are there any other mentions of this crewmember? Does the location of that ship somehow fit the preceding parts of the toast? I did get the logs of all the generation ships a while ago but can’t remember anything standing out. Might be worth exploring this hypothesis!

Thinking further, the yearning of our vagabond hearts may be a clue telling us to look for the Generation Ships, as I interpret 'vagabond' in this context to mean 'homeless' and the crews of Generation Ships are certainly people yearning to arrive at a place that they can call home.

Quite right about the punctuation but it still fits if the person making the logs is the individual referred to. I shall have to examine the names again of the individuals that made the logs.
In the meantime, if there are only two individuals in the third line, then perhaps the two Generation Ships, Atlas in Charick's Drift (a white dwarf star - it is just outside the jet cones) and Pleione in Hez Ur, make a line that leads to something?

 

[CMDR Davanix]

What do you make of this? I'm not sure if I'm just seeing things that aren't there

I've coloured words that are the same, numbered lines to show possible connections:

Raxxla Codex:​

1) To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!
2) To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void!
3) The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.
4) To Raxxla!"

Quotes from the Formidine Rift Expeditions:​

1) "Passed this amazing twin nebula just recently, about the only interesting sight on this whole trip. "

- Heart and Soul Nebulas are in the Constellation Cassiopeia, mother of Andromeda (Mother of Galaxies?).​

2) "Could have sworn I heard some weird voices in the last jump."
2) "they’re calling to me… a siren song… "
2) "Picked up some kind of signal yesterday and it looks like the crew weren’t expecting it."
2) "We picked up some kind of bizarre signal yesterday. Whatever it was it wasn’t human. "
2) "Really dark… darker than normal space."
2) "There’s hardly any stars ahead of us, it’s just blackness… the void"

Line 3) that's where it all falls apart ... I can't find any matches exactly... maybe it's a more general sense of Grief, Woe, and Yearning? That's something common to Halsey and the Rift expedition, death and loss and a yearning to find out what happened by going out exploring - it's a reach, I know!

Though, presumably if this is a "treasure map" style follow-the-clues, and if this guess is right, then it's pointing out past the Rift, so maybe whatever line 3 means is beyond the Rift logs?

It's interesting this 'trail' bottoms out at the same place as your Halsey ideas too. Maybe they're both pointing at the same things? No idea how


No apologies need at all! 99.9% of the stuff I say has been said a million times in this thread anyway usually more elegantly and shorter too!

Edit: for clarity

These where based off of Salome/Rebecca correct Couldn't the Grief, yearnign etc be linked to Salomes family parents greif (Duval her dad going missing after a crash similar to Hasley look up this lore it tells more than just Empire lore), Asilings lover (Dentus) or anothers and being a vagabond while also yearing for the truth to be said? long shot but with this everything match's up, We all know Drew wrote the Rift mystery but FDev also stated there is more out there we havnt found and also apparantly skipped steps to finding the Zaruha (Once an an Anaconda which has been in since gamma technically having if related the path to Raxxla in game) who knows Fdev may have joined this to Raxxla, it would explain their own silence on the whole matter with the main artistic story tellers being left in the dark and eventually leaving

 

[Maidor]

I think we must ignore all previous lore and only use in-game ED information, which condenses down to the Codex. I think the only external thing we can rely on is MB’s “it’s in the Milky Way”. Condensing further (stripping out what I think is dross/misdirection) the Raxxla Codex entry I think we are down to:

1) The Alleged Toast: "To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void! The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!"

2) “The legend of Raxxla has been circulating, in whispers, for centuries”

3) “The earliest recorded mention of Raxxla dates from 2296”...in Tau Ceti

4) “The earliest documented stories tend to agree on several points, however: that Raxxla is a definite place and that it holds a mystical secret.”

5) “Several versions of the Raxxla story mention an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift, described as a gateway or tunnel through which parallel universes can be accessed. These details, however, were later shown to bear a striking resemblance to the children's story Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars, and soon lost credibility. Undaunted, some Raxxla seekers insisted that the story's author had cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale in his book as hints for those with eyes to see.”

Musings
my own, my very own, personal thoughts about dinosaurs the puzzle:
1 - sounds like it should be a clue, perhaps the start of the Raxxla storyline?
2 - sounds like a joke/pun on the Spiralling Stars from 5....and maybe a hint that is worthy of attention?
3 - I think this just says it’s a very old rumour. This might limit the search range to somewhere near Tau Ceti if Raxxla was actually physically found that early, but I still think this is a red herring and it could have been observed astronomically by telescope (e.g. Gaia space telescope) etc which could put the potential search range out to the edge of the Milky Way. And if it was physically found remember that explorers were getting out to the edge of the galaxy quite soon after game release...(Augustus Branquith? That Tourist Beacon mention sounds like another hint!)
4 - IMHO fluff, apart from telling us it is not Witchspace, or a state of mind, or the friends along the way!
5 - I think this is the heart of the clue!
Omphalos Rift could imply many things (Delphi system, Aquila constellation conical hole, etc etc that people here have explored in various hypotheses), but I think is a hint that Raxxla is accessed by a special mechanism and won’t be found in-game in a system as an object named “Raxxla” (I still think it will be in/an instance downloaded from the FD server when the Omphalos is triggered. This is the obvious way FD would use to foil data miners. I dont the Omphalos will be so named either, for the same reason; it will be hidden as something, or within something, mundane)....

I found the phrase about “the story's author had cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale in his book as hints for those with eyes to see” very suggestive. The only thing we have of that book is the title “Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars”. So, is there an anagram buried therein? (I’ve tried this & there are a lot of possible in-game system names!) . But I still prefer the interpretation that Astrophel is a Black hole and the Spiralling Stars are Neutron Stars or Black holes, both of which spiral in-game. One possibility occurs to me that I’ve not tried for a while... which is the conical hole of the Omphalos implies we should try to fly into the rotating beams (conical hole) of a Neutron Star and approach the neutron core. I’ve tried it once or twice but always got thrown out by the violent motion, and presumably it would have to be the correct NS! If this interpretation is valid then there ought to be something unusual about that particular NS! Unless we have to solve the toast to take us to the correct one.

Edit: I give up on the logo! It’s so obscure it could mean anything. I can imagine it might mean that Raxxla is the name of a hidden space station!

You sir are now in sync with the right mentallity.
I've pointed this out last month but I think things are close and simple, and we need to make more objective tests on suspected places close to Sol.

Recently after the thread got back to speculation I headed over to Sol. And started making jumps that could go along with the Toast and clues.
-Tau Ceti, Serious, Delphi, and other named legends in the proximity. I do most of this in a Cobra because it has a fairly related Jump-Range with the old ships.

I was heading from Geb to Delphi trying to find a system right in the middle with equivalent distances. For some reason I was thinking It was funny that ''Source'' is in the center of the galaxy and ''Waypoint'' is in Serious. And the Route-Planner got wierd. Sending me to a system called STOPOVER.

Some wierd things happened then.
-It was a very interesting name for the guffy theory developing in my journey.
-It was completely bugged with another system on top of it that I was not being able to target. ( was frustrated and didnt screenshot thinking my Galaxy map was at it again)
-Once I gave up and jumped to STOPOVER it has 2 stars spinning around nothing and one of them has a diffrent name from the system or close by systems.

My wierd next conclusion was. The ''map'' to Raxxla is just that.
I've been trying to say we have all the clues and don't bulk test them. but its probabbly just it.

A very simple 3/6 steps jump map, around Sol systems, that when you get back you realize something is different. Something is off, and when you check it you wont make much of it. But It's the next step into Raxxla, a ''confirmation clue'', because so far there are only clues meant to broadden the search and make people speculate.

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

I've visited the final three Generation ships I had not been to before (Odysseus, Achlys and Phobos). The Phobos' logs are not the last thing you want to hear before you turn in at night! I do not think any of them are related, as they have very different stories.

Now that I have read and heard them all, I still think the Pleione and the Atlas are the best two matches for the parent's grief and lover's woe and with the 'yearning of our vagabond hearts' being, in my current thinking, a reasonable hint to check out the Generation Ships, I have to look at what this might mean for the poem as a whole, if anything. Enough wild geese to fill a T-9 on this thread, after all!

The Generation Ship Atlas' logs are written by the Chief Engineer. In the 4th log, his name is revealed as Tom Edwards and his pregnant partner is Jean. There is also a line in the final log about the captain intending to name their first settlement after Tom, though I have yet to check if it exists in-game.

The Generation Ship Pleione's logs are labelled Medical log with a number: 1st log: 274/4; 2nd log: 320/9; 3rd log: 398/1 and 4th log 573/5. The name of the medical officer is not given.

The two ships are not quite on the Galactic Plane but not far off and there is ~80LY between them in altitude, with Charick Drift only ~10 LY off the Galactic Plane. Hez Ur is near one of the Maelstroms, so careful if you want to visit! If these two systems are the basis for a line, then heading from Charick Drift to Hez Ur and continuing will take you past the borders of Col 70 Sector (but not through them), to one side of Barnard's Loop and the Seagull nebula. In this direction, eventually you would reach Xibalba, the most distant part of the Milky Way from Sgr A*. In the opposite direction, you pass by some other nebulae (NGC 6820 I think was one that was close) and end up in roughly the direction of permit-locked Hyponia.

I'm not going to go to Xibalba or the borders of Hyponia on this basis (I have been to both before and whilst there are interesting places out there, I would say that nothing I found connects to this at all).
I am not ruling out that the name Tom Edwards and the numbers in the Pleione's logs hold some clue. Perhaps they are clues but their application does not become clear until the first two lines have their meaning deciphered.
This is as far as I can take this line of investigation for the moment but I feel like it was a positive step that has given me something new to think about.
Fly safe!

P.S. I like Jordi's analogy of Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars with a system with a black hole and multiple neutron stars/white dwarfs. Perhaps this is a waypoint that tells us we are on the right track once we are following a path...

 

[Louis Calvert]

There are three more Generation Ships that I have yet to visit and I want to do so in person, in case something is secretly unlocked by having the right set of logs. The yearning of our vagabond hearts is less clear at the moment but perhaps you will have some ideas on the subject?

Welcome back

This is what I have on the gen ships - pretty much the same as you got, but consider the Golconda's story:

"Whisperer" - Generation ship Thetis - picks up whispers coming from a passing planet and everyone goes crazy (not in witchspace though??)
Siren...?
"The parent's grief" (1) - Generation Ship Hyperion - started to worship a child that persuaded everyone to kill themselves (Edit: actually maybe this is the Siren?)
"The parent's grief" (2) - Generation Ship Pleione - Genetic error cause only male children to be born
"the lover's woe" - Generation Ship Atlas - Chief Engineer stayed aboard to launch the shuttles, his pregnant wife was aboard one and only found out he wasn't going at the last second
"and the yearning of our vagabond hearts." - Generation Ship Golconda - decided to keep wandering the stars instead of settling on a planet.

The Gen ships were found around 3304, puts them roughly concurrent with the introduction of the Codex later that year (but then again a lot of of new stuff was).

Hope that helps maybe
o7

These where based off of Salome/Rebecca correct Couldn't the Grief, yearnign etc be linked to Salomes family parents greif (Duval her dad going missing after a crash similar to Hasley look up this lore it tells more than just Empire lore), Asilings lover (Dentus) or anothers and being a vagabond while also yearing for the truth to be said? long shot but with this everything match's up, We all know Drew wrote the Rift mystery but FDev also stated there is more out there we havnt found and also apparantly skipped steps to finding the Zaruha (Once an an Anaconda which has been in since gamma technically having if related the path to Raxxla in game) who knows Fdev may have joined this to Raxxla, it would explain their own silence on the whole matter with the main artistic story tellers being left in the dark and eventually leaving

I hate to agree, but I do think that's a strong possilbity. I mean no offense by this, but I take everything Drew ever said with an ocean of salt, so I've largely ignored all his stuff for years - but as you say Fdev did have a hand in directing him (by his own admission, The Club narrative was given to him by Fdev as were other things). It's worth a look

Edited for spelling

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Thinking further, the yearning of our vagabond hearts may be a clue telling us to look for the Generation Ships, as I interpret 'vagabond' in this context to mean 'homeless' and the crews of Generation Ships are certainly people yearning to arrive at a place that they can call home.

Quite right about the punctuation but it still fits if the person making the logs is the individual referred to. I shall have to examine the names again of the individuals that made the logs.
In the meantime, if there are only two individuals in the third line, then perhaps the two Generation Ships, Atlas in Charick's Drift (a white dwarf star - it is just outside the jet cones) and Pleione in Hez Ur, make a line that leads to something?

“Homeless” is one, perhaps the most common current interpretation of vagabond, but it also means “wanderer”. So a rogue planet or comet could be called vagabonds, and so could the inhabitants of a generation ship...

 

[John Stoutbeard]

I need more popcorn, this is quite intriguing - we're down to resolving 3'rd part of the toast.
I concur with the ideas so far, genships are so tighly linked to vagabonds & fernweh.

I suspect we soon will see some super ideas on steps to take between the genships & places, interesting.

 

[Darrack]

Ah, but I had a custard tart for desert!

Hell no, Chorley cakes all the way

O7

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Just to add, we may have not found all in-game Gen ships yet either......Where is the first ever Gen ship

The first Generation Ship was launched from Sol in 2097, as early space colonization efforts had finally begun to make headway on the Moon and Mars after the setbacks caused by World War III. It was followed by approximately 70,000 other vessels over the next several decades.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

Just to add, we may have not found all in-game Gen ships yet either......Where is the first ever Gen ship

The first Generation Ship was launched from Sol in 2097, as early space colonization efforts had finally begun to make headway on the Moon and Mars after the setbacks caused by World War III. It was followed by approximately 70,000 other vessels over the next several decades.

Interesting. I just looked that up, and apparently it was bound for Tau Ceti, and the first recorded mention of Raxxla was by someone in Tau Ceti 199 years later...

Tau Ceti is only around 12ly away, so it's feasible the Mayflower made it.

It is apparently the first colony outside the solar system (possibly due to the Mayflower 97), and the first place alien life was discovered.

Not in game right now, but it could be worth investigating, but I suspect I will not have much time this weekend.

I'm not sure where to find the origin of this information, but according to this post, the Mayflower did arrive in Tau Ceti after 58 years.

Generation Ships: All you need to know

I posted some musings on Generation Ships in a thread in the main forum, and popular demand (well, OK, it was DNA-Decay, but I'm sure he's quite popular in some parts) requested I post the information in the Lore subforum, so it didn't get lost. Rather than simply duplicate it, I'll reformat it...

forums.frontier.co.uk

Given that the codex entry on Raxxla says that the first quote suggested it was in use for some time, it's possible it was a legend known to (or even started by) the inhabitants of the Mayflower

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Thinking further, the yearning of our vagabond hearts may be a clue telling us to look for the Generation Ships, as I interpret 'vagabond' in this context to mean 'homeless' and the crews of Generation Ships are certainly people yearning to arrive at a place that they can call home.

Quite right about the punctuation but it still fits if the person making the logs is the individual referred to. I shall have to examine the names again of the individuals that made the logs.
In the meantime, if there are only two individuals in the third line, then perhaps the two Generation Ships, Atlas in Charick's Drift (a white dwarf star - it is just outside the jet cones) and Pleione in Hez Ur, make a line that leads to something?

Mmm, might be worth checking out the white dwarf where Atlas is located. Try boosting at it/flying into the cone towards the core/approaching the core at 90 degrees to the cones.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Interesting. I just looked that up, and apparently it was bound for Tau Ceti, and the first recorded mention of Raxxla was by someone in Tau Ceti 199 years later...

Tau Ceti is only around 12ly away, so it's feasible the Mayflower made it.

It is apparently the first colony outside the solar system (possibly due to the Mayflower 97), and the first place alien life was discovered.

Not in game right now, but it could be worth investigating, but I suspect I will not have much time this weekend.

I'm not sure where to find the origin of this information, but according to this post, the Mayflower did arrive in Tau Ceti after 58 years.

Generation Ships: All you need to know

I posted some musings on Generation Ships in a thread in the main forum, and popular demand (well, OK, it was DNA-Decay, but I'm sure he's quite popular in some parts) requested I post the information in the Lore subforum, so it didn't get lost. Rather than simply duplicate it, I'll reformat it...

forums.frontier.co.uk

Given that the codex entry on Raxxla says that the first quote suggested it was in use for some time, it's possible it was a legend known to (or even started by) the inhabitants of the Mayflower

It’s also possible that Raxxla is the name of one of the lost generation ships...
Think the info about Mayflower arrival is in the Tourist Beacons somewhere....
Edit: Ah no, just checked the TB spreadsheet & not there. Should be in the codex then. Can’t see anything in Galnet search. In-game system description?
Edit2: “The Mayflower 97 took 58 years to travel the 11.97 LYs to Tau Ceti” according to Sapyx, but no source reference
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/generation-ships-all-you-need-to-know.407558/
Edit3: Han_Zen refers to it on 7November
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-9990616

 

[Louis Calvert]

Interesting. I just looked that up, and apparently it was bound for Tau Ceti, and the first recorded mention of Raxxla was by someone in Tau Ceti 199 years later...

Tau Ceti is only around 12ly away, so it's feasible the Mayflower made it.

It is apparently the first colony outside the solar system (possibly due to the Mayflower 97), and the first place alien life was discovered.

Not in game right now, but it could be worth investigating, but I suspect I will not have much time this weekend.

I'm not sure where to find the origin of this information, but according to this post, the Mayflower did arrive in Tau Ceti after 58 years.

Generation Ships: All you need to know

I posted some musings on Generation Ships in a thread in the main forum, and popular demand (well, OK, it was DNA-Decay, but I'm sure he's quite popular in some parts) requested I post the information in the Lore subforum, so it didn't get lost. Rather than simply duplicate it, I'll reformat it...

forums.frontier.co.uk

Given that the codex entry on Raxxla says that the first quote suggested it was in use for some time, it's possible it was a legend known to (or even started by) the inhabitants of the Mayflower

Do recall that by 2296 there had been FTL for about 150 years. Michael Brooks explains it here:

15:27
DJ: When was it humans first left Sol, do we have a date on it?
MB: We do, I'm going to refer to my notes for this, just so I get it right, So the first intersteallar colony was on Tau Ceti and that was in the 2150s.

16:24
DJ: What propulsion were they using when they first left Sol?
MB: So back then it was mostly slower than light drives like ion prpulsion, so not too dissimilar to the technologies that NASA is using today, fusion torches but they tended to be for the very big ships like generation ships that could carry enough fuel to make them worthwhile, so something similar in mind to the Daedalus project with its deuterium pellets, and of course there were experimetns with hyperspace, but they varied in success, so they weren't considerd reliable enough for large transportation which is why the early transports used the colony ships.
DJ: This is something we often wornder about becaus they were sending probes through hyperspce [MB: Yep] quite soon after discovering it werent they? but it's a couple of hundred years before hyperspace use seems to become normal for human carrying craft
MB: Yeah hink that's simply safety factors. Obvious there were a few crazy people that were happy to jump in and make a jump but they tended to disappear or there would be some unknown accident or some trace of them would be found, so it's like with any technology, when you're at the forefront of it there's a bit of risk involved, especially if you're trying to translate accross lightyears of space.
DJ: ... This is one of the ones (holes) we'd discussed, why it is that there's that 200-odd year gap [MB: yep], and we'd assumed it was just trying to figure out how to send a human through safely, essentially.
MB: Well, its large numbers of humans, and the bigger the mass the more energy you need and you need to have efficient methods of actually producing enough energy to accutally do the jump.

 

[Louis Calvert]

It’s also possible that Raxxla is the name of one of the lost generation ships...
Think the info about Mayflower arrival is in the Tourist Beacons somewhere....
Edit: Ah no, just checked the TB spreadsheet & not there. Should be in the codex then. Can’t see anything in Galnet search. In-game system description?
Edit2: “The Mayflower 97 took 58 years to travel the 11.97 LYs to Tau Ceti” according to Sapyx, but no source reference
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/generation-ships-all-you-need-to-know.407558/
Edit3: Han_Zen refers to it on 7November
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-9990616

Remember that the Raxxla Codex says Raxxla is a "definite place".

The "Mayflower 97" name is from non-Elite Dangerous sources (FFE I believe), If I remember correctly - there's no named Gen ships other than ones that have been found (to my knowledge).

The Tau Ceti tourist beacon doesn't include any useful details about gen ships. FWIW you can search any tourist beacons at EDDB.io, no need to guess.

This Galnet article details the early generation ship launches (the Founding of the Federation). This galnet article details the Generation Ships themselves. This wiki page has accurate information drawn from the game on Gen ships. Canonn has a list of Gen ships including all the logs, if anyone wants to read/listen to them - NOTE: Have caution here, Dew Wagar's ramblings on Gen ships are here, assume this is "spacers tales" and take with a pinch of salt unless a thing is verified by actual in-game sources.

The in-game codex is essentially the same info as given in the various Glanet articles up-to and including the Golconda.

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I know you can't read this Jorki since you're ignoring me, but this is for other people reading your comment and wondering about the same information There are sources available that contain in-game information. The sources you linked includes speculation and non-canon materials (like older games, etc.) and as has been discussion about a trillion times we just don't know if they're accurate until something in Elite Dangerous confirms it - so just use the stuff from the game itself.

 

[John Stoutbeard]

bound for Tau Ceti, and the first recorded mention of Raxxla was by someone in Tau Ceti 199 years later.

Tau Ceti is a very interesting lead in this, I got the same gut feel. So much in the Codex wants us to look in that direction.

It’s also possible that Raxxla is the name of one of the lost generation ships...

Yeah, but are we jumping to conclusions a bit too quickly here? Following the leads from the codex to the gen ships is a healthy idea though.

FTL for about 150 years. Michael Brooks explains it

Ah, nope, I'm staying away from this non-cannon leads now hehe. The whole idea 'how far could we travel in the past/what kind of drive limited us' is something they may have changed due to new teams, new producers, new designers over time.

Remember that the Raxxla Codex says Raxxla is a "definite place".

Exactamundo, good point.

I still think we need to pick the genships as (all including the ignored ones) has shown.
Go one place, find something, then a new direction - repeat - perhaps triangulating a bit.

In all of this, there may be some leads in the text (toast) itself that needs some out of the box thinking.
Like the toast cloud be a number-station message - or something we find along the way. It's out in the open, but some of it may need decoding.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Tau Ceti is a very interesting lead in this, I got the same gut feel. So much in the Codex wants us to look in that direction.

Yeah, but are we jumping to conclusions a bit too quickly here? Following the leads from the codex to the gen ships is a healthy idea though.


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Yes, the repetition of Tau Ceti is interesting, and I like the idea of a generation ship matching the Toast since (finally!) this begins to sound like an in-game Raxxla storyline...can anyone remember when Atlas was first found?
( Edit: find reported May 2017

[Video] GENERATION SHIP ATLAS DISCOVERED | How to get there + All Audio Logs

The seventh generation ship has been found in the Charick Drift system. Generation ship Atlas. Full directions, audio logs included. o7 to CMDR Dilliam who made the discovery on Xbox. Good find Commander! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUUwQ2AGzo

forums.frontier.co.uk

N.B. codex was released Beyond - Chapter Four 11 DEC 3304 (2018) )

But since we “don't know what it is “ a little speculation can’t hurt, & I’m still trying to make some sense of the logo...it looks to me like the representation of a space station & that would imply a specific one. Perhaps that’s where the Omphalos device is hidden? Or it is Raxxla? Just spinning ideas.

But the near bubble, and Tau Ceti especially, has been searched to death; so whatever it is must be well hidden!

Might get back into the cockpit again this afternoon & get Tyko a bit closer to the next destination...space can’t be much colder than my living room!

 

[John Stoutbeard]

a little speculation can’t hurt

The past 1400 pages would like to object Just kidding, we need to fantasize a little