The Quest To Find Raxxla
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By the way, is it possible to get to this point where the Gaia satellite hangs?
Yes, been there. Actually done most Lagrange points in the solar system in-game. Never found anything, but that’s no guarantee something isn’t hidden thereabouts! But it is observing within the solar system and out into the depths of space, so it’s location is likely not relevant.
Gaia is at Sun-Earth L2 position, as is the James Webb Space Telescope. Dont know how they keep the two from colliding!
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...as far as I remeber JW is orbiting around the L" Point, not parked at it......Yes, been there. Actually done most Lagrange points in the solar system in-game. Never found anything, but that’s no guarantee something isn’t hidden thereabouts! But it is observing within the solar system and out into the depths of space, so it’s location is likely not relevant.
Gaia is at Sun-Earth L2 position, as is the James Webb Space Telescope. Dont know how they keep the two from colliding!
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Ah, I see. Missed that. So TDW not finding Raxxla was part of the FFE lore, and part of the book ATTW storyline, but isn’t in the codex so may not apply to ED.
Using a Cobra MKIII with 7 Ly of jump range was interesting. The bubble, usually seeming very small with modern ships like my "Highway Star" with up to 85 Ly of jump range (if I remove the extra fuel tank), became huge.
You have no idea how huge the bubble is - when experienced in a ship with 7 Ly of jump range. I frequently had to use FSD injection to get anywhere at all.
Shinrarta Dezhra was at a dead end.
And the region around Lave formed a small isolated pocket. There was one route that went a bit further, with a system called "Qube" at its end. Which was very strange, because it was just a star (and two of those modern carriers, by that time).
Why would anybody bother to name a system with just a star in it? And would "Qube" indicate a "Cube", which could be drawn as a hexagon?
There’s definitely more to it than that.Im not sure they ever will, in the current state in my opinion they are just a mixture of symbols for the quests and random decoration.
But who knows
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As an example, from the logs we know the origins of the guardian glyphs and that the history of the evolution of the the glyphs is reflected in them.
We can see at least 3 or 4 different complexity level versions of the glyphs.
The least complex version is the one on the Relic Tower bases.
Another level is on the Relics.
The most complex version is the one that was on the obelisks originally.
If what I mean there isn’t clear, it can be thought of in terms of those RL dot matrix text displays that you sometimes see in places. What we see above can be considered in terms of the complexity of the display grid itself.
What also needs to be borne in mind with the above is that the guardian written language is logographic, which is to say that rather than a word being built out letters, each word has its own symbol. What’s fairly obvious from that is that from the simple origins of just a few simple words used for hunting, as the number of words increases, the number of glyphs needed increases by the same amount, and so consequently does the necessary complexity of any display used to show them.
Coming back to the Relics and Relic Towers bases, the Relics have a more complicated grid than what is seen on the tower bases. However, if you look closely at the tower bases, you’ll see that the glyphs there have actually been carved in over the top of the original markings. They’ve also been done so in quite a crude way, which if anything looks like an act of vandalism.
That suggests that the glyphs vandalised into the relic tower bases were done by ultra-traditionalist guardians at some point, partly as an expression of their dislike of technical progression and their preference for a more traditional way of life.
For info, the panels on the relic tower bases do have various symbols on them, but not of the triangular glyph form. It is possible to work out what the vandalised panels looked like prior to having the triangular glyphs vandalised on to them. It’s not lead to anything more so far AFAIK, but it is possible.
The materials towers (for want of a better term) at the Guardian structures also have glyphs on them but of two distinct different forms - the triangular grid glyphs and a much more flowing form with different shapes and no immediately obvious grid.
There being two forms of the written language is also talked about in the logs from the 2nd Ram Tah mission, and it’s quite possibly that which can be seen in the two different forms of symbols which can be found on the material towers.
I think it is more of a “what will happen to the commander who finds it..” kind of thing
There are forum posts on it so presumably the answer is a yes. Link is here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/i-found-something-strange-very-strange-the-missing.258385/
I was just there because it seemed interesting. It's the name of a Cobra, which is still there today.
So I finally got around to reading Elite: Out of Darkness
Just some observations - In spoiler for those who havent read it yet
Just some observations - In spoiler for those who havent read it yet
Im sure most if not all of these have been realized long ago but as its new to me I thought id share...
Carl Linnaeus - the curiously named badguy for this novel. Kind of reminds me of someone:
Some select parts of his plan that remind me of recent events:
A ship escapes at the end of the novel - wonder if Wytcherly was on it...
An interesting approximation of the Raxxla Logo is described long before we saw it in the codex:
And of course the name Peregrina means "wanderer" also the name of a famous Pearl...
Oh and our heroine is named Moira
Carl Linnaeus - the curiously named badguy for this novel. Kind of reminds me of someone:
"I am not a traitor to my species - I am humanity's savior...."
Some select parts of his plan that remind me of recent events:
"I will develop more effective versions of the Pivot. I will sell each new iteration to the highest bidder. There will be a biochemical arms race..."
"When humanity becomes curious, the Oresrians will launch a pre-emptive strike on ten outlying systems. Too late, ships will come and swarm ineffectually over the dead before they flee...."
A ship escapes at the end of the novel - wonder if Wytcherly was on it...
An interesting approximation of the Raxxla Logo is described long before we saw it in the codex:
She traced several curves in the air with a finger. The eight-pointed star had crudely drawn back-sweeping arms. She added several approximations of swirls in the centre.....
Helen stared at the shape ' I know what that is - the pattern inside, it's a fractal? There's a smaller circle in the centre? - Carl uses it on correspondence - the logo of a subsidiary of the Proteus Collective, Natura Mutabilis Incorporated.
And of course the name Peregrina means "wanderer" also the name of a famous Pearl...
Oh and our heroine is named Moira
Be carefull though. Whatever they were hinting at with blue triangles may well not be Raxxla! More likely a step in the current Thargoid War storyline (the only thing that seems to interest FD) that has been missed. IMHO it’s a hint about the Guardian Relics and/or their Thargoidised version (Unclassified Relics? I want to find a Confidential or Secret or Top Secret Relic!)*edited
Mmm but here in lies the problem, if there is something in game which no one has ever been able to find because it literally is so obvious… maybe FD need to direct players towards that content which is being ignored; not I propose through silly visual clues either simply or complex, which half of us don’t see! But some standard narrative markers.
E.g find a focal point (station mission boards) and use existing in game processes, not to wag a finger, but highlight there is more to them than previously thought.
In this stream they are specifically talking about USS’s… that there is content in there, and we need to read between the lines!
USSs are used for various mission markers, it would stand to reason this might be a way to direct players towards Raxxla, but I presume many of us generally ignore them.
I admit to ignoring them, I still scan them, to identify them but also look for anomalies; but generally I stopped engaging with them earlier on, because I’d learnt they only were semi-persistent, and generally are wall-flowers, and like most players - I’m destination focused, so I’ve never really stopped to smell these flowers, not at least since launch.
Do we need to find the right USS or a series of USS’s or…just listen to the gossip, and then fill in the gaps?
Maybe Raxxla and or the Dark Wheel are breadcrumb trails hidden within these USS locations conversations?
Maybe it doesn’t actually matter where you start!
If it’s location based then it would make it harder to find, but by FD statements of it being obvious I suspect maybe an indication that the location is not a priority?
Maybe there is USS content which marries that of the Codex, or which we just need to listen to a make an informed judgment!
When I’m next in game I’ll definitely be dropping in on these more and begin to listen to their chatter (that’s if it’s Legacy based), but how do we know ‘where’ to start?
Tau Ceti?
I wonder @Allen Stroud would you be able to shed any light upon USS content and where such a road might take us?
Unidentified Signal Source
An Unidentified Signal Source or USS spontaneously appears throughout a star system during Supercruise. Targeting a USS will automatically scan and reveal its specific type, which can contain anything such as unique ship encounters or Commodities. Missions can send players to specific USS sites...elite-dangerous.fandom.com
But yes, it seems like a good idea to more thoroughly investigate USS in systems. I’m afraid I’ve got past the burnout point and am currently not playing ....but of course that extra effort will slow activities down even more...
As I understand it that’s the whole point of a Lagrange spot. If a satellite there starts to lag behind then the local gravity speeds it up, and vice versa. So any stationary object there is not actually stationary
Mm, interesting, so Guardian language is like Chinese...I hadnt made that connection. But then I was distracted by a new puppy when the Guardian sites appeared so never really got into them in any depth. But I seem to remember some (Ram Tah? Palin?) implying the glyphs were representations of their sign language used in hunting, and I have the impression that the transitions between those symbols is somehow important.
I suspect the recent FD livestream hints might be that there is more to discover at the Guardian sites...but that’s not new. We’ve always thought that. There are clearly doors & hence they should be openable.....
Not quite. Raxxla / TDW wasn't part of FFE lore, at all.
The Thargoid / Alliance stuff was one possible story arc, from FFE.
At the time of writing (the novel) both these independent pieces of information were true, as per information provided by FD.
Later the Thargoid / Alliance story arc was retconned. This does not change the information given about Raxxla / TDW.
Totally agree.
But it’s something within the dialogue which rings familiar. I suspect they are talking about two things separately; as in the triangles are about the narrative / Thargoids / Guardians, whilst their discussion about hidden storylines might be a nudge towards Raxxla.
Someone here once said, things might be right under our noses, and that it might be a little like meeting the man behind the curtain; it just rings true that the reason we haven’t found it is simply because it’s not what we are presuming it to be, and that finding it / or becoming enlightened towards it; might be via a storyline played out in the game…
Or maybe not.
But remember the text: Well, if you're looking for adventure, I have a pretty solid lead on the location of Raxxla… which was potentially attributed to passengers, maybe it wasn’t our passengers?
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You’ve spotted some interesting points there compadre!
Moira as in Moiré?
So could there be some hints in the books that we are not aware of? Not to Raxxla of course, as the authors were banned from that storyline, though didnt Michael Brookes write one? My memory is failing....need more breakfast caffeine!
But I am disappointed. When I saw you’d read OOTD and a spoiler I thought you were going to give us your artistic impression of a Thargoid foot soldier...I saw the “leaked” model online a while ago and wasn't impressed, didn’t match up to the description in OOTD. But I suspect that’s what the recent post about the FD mother of NPC AI is working on (where did I see that post).
I absolutely agree that the breadcrumbs will be something played out in-game, & probably right under our noses (hence DB’s chortling when he said we dont know what it is). But what?..and where?
But I get really angry when “clues” are given out via Twitter and livestreams. I dont tweet and I hate livestreams. In 2015/6 they were interesting, but they degenerated into watching time wasting & boring gameplay, which is when I stopped watching them. Clues should be in-game, or maybe in Galnet, but nowhere else.
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And someone in the thread https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/curious-statement-on-the-frameshift-live-today.614594/
said Arthur says something like this on every stream.....
And he’s said he knows nothing about Raxxla, hence this must be a hint to the current storyline.
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Well he did comment about Raxxla on a previous interview, which would introduce the assumption he does know something.
If he has said he knows nothing, then either that denotes duplicity or that statement was only true at that particular time?
AT also mentions Raxxla in his Chan 4 skit… I’m doubtful he’s 100% ignorant.
Source:
AT “It’s there. Clearly it’s there. I’ve said this in another stream, I’ll say it today, it’s been going a longtime. The payoff would have to be great, and that’s all I will say on it”.
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