The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Macros Black]

Ah, the irrestible joys of being a tourist...seeing exciting new places, experiencing colorful personas. Oh joy!

Spoiler: Slavery

I've wondered how a solid lead could be presented to a CMDR, this kind of wrinkle could be one way.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

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“Having just spoken to Arthur, we can confirm that the story content we were referring to was subtle environmental storytelling. As this is narrative / lore related, we aren't able to comment on the specifics and players will just need to pay attention to small details.”

So what do FD consider subtle environmental storytelling, is it within one particular element, or across several, is this in Legacy; in 4.0 or Odyssey!

Is it in the USS’s alone; in adverts in stations; NPC chatter on outposts; the tattoos on Mission givers foreheads… if you don’t engage with such areas (Legacy or to call it correctly ’Console’) then you will not be privy to all of such information.

I really appreciate the work FD put into the game, but they still need to be clear about their nudges IMO, if this is 4.0 or Legacy related.

If FD are saying it’s right under our noses, but we just aren’t seeing it, which schism are they addressing?

My gut tells me it’s likely Odyssey content, so those of us on Console / Horizons won’t see these ‘clues’, and this harks back to the terrible suspicion that Raxxla is narratively locked, at least to 4.0. Because you wouldn’t want Legacy’s players finding content you spent more money on building clues for in 4.0, that’s just poor economics - unless it’s just the Thargoid narrative.

By my count that’s about 30% of their audience missing out if true; if that’s the case, no wonder nobody hasn’t found it…

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I think you’re digging your own hole there! Whatever makes you assume this “subtle environmental storytelling” is anything at all to do with Raxxla?

Of course there might be some clues about Raxxla in USS, or elsewhere, but we have never noticed any otherwise they would have been reported in this thread. So as part of the Quest carry on playing; investigate all asteroid clusters and look in USS, especially mission givers and permanent signal source (i.e. no expiration countdown), but don’t beat yourself up. This is just adding some more fluffy flavour to the fluffy game.

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I still think the likeliest hints to Raxxla might come via luxury passenger trips. There’s a few hints in TB about Augustus Brenquith the famous explorer (which seem to lead nowhere, apart from his last records being returned via a drone to the depths of Sol), the founding of a luxury tours firm originally in a system but now with widespread offices, and a hint that someone might have accidentally seen something about a Raxxla hint from a tourist-that could also be mission flavour dialog. But TDW are “a legendary group of adventurers, explorers, investigators and treasure-hunters”, so those luxury tourist missions might attract their attention.

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ah yes TB228 "Astrogator Extreme holidays carry the image of the legendary explorer Augustus Brenquith. The holidays tend to include extreme, and frequently quite dangerous, activities in distant locations, like atmospheric wave-riding, volcano diving and magnetic surfing. Trusted intrepid pilots take these adventurers 'to the edge'..."

 

[SergMx]

I think you’re digging your own hole there! Whatever makes you assume this “subtle environmental storytelling” is anything at all to do with Raxxla?

Of course there might be some clues about Raxxla in USS, or elsewhere, but we have never noticed any otherwise they would have been reported in this thread. So as part of the Quest carry on playing; investigate all asteroid clusters and look in USS, especially mission givers and permanent signal source (i.e. no expiration countdown), but don’t beat yourself up. This is just adding some more fluffy flavour to the fluffy game.

Before signal sources were random, I do not think that changing them into permanent (I think it was not easy in programming) was done only for one purpose - to prevent people from foraging for a lot of materials.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Ah, the irrestible joys of being a tourist...seeing exciting new places, experiencing colorful personas. Oh joy!

Spoiler: Slavery

I've wondered how a solid lead could be presented to a CMDR, this kind of wrinkle could be one way.

The question to resolve is does “a legendary group of adventurers, explorers, investigators and treasure-hunters” imply that TDW are actually pirates and slavers?

I’ve pointed out in the past that Elizabethan-era pirates were referred to as “gentlemen adventurers”. So, how warped is DB’s sense of humour?

 

[Rochester]

I think you’re digging your own hole there! Whatever makes you assume this “subtle environmental storytelling” is anything at all to do with Raxxla?

Of course there might be some clues about Raxxla in USS, or elsewhere, but we have never noticed any otherwise they would have been reported in this thread. So as part of the Quest carry on playing; investigate all asteroid clusters and look in USS, especially mission givers and permanent signal source (i.e. no expiration countdown), but don’t beat yourself up. This is just adding some more fluffy flavour to the fluffy game.

Agreed, Roger that.

I’m just being overly pedantic, when you love something so passionately, one tends to overreact

I just find such actions misleading; if there is content we are missing do something in game to highlight this, fix it, not some 2 hour long social media blog… don’t waste our time, ultimately it just makes it feel like FD hold all the cards, which is disheartening.

I agree it is likely totally irrelevant. My assumption is primarily based upon their continued sly references to things they won’t name, invoking the name of Braben etc. like they aren’t allowed to say the word Raxxla directly!

It doesn’t actually help, it just confuses and conflates the issue. I wish they just left it all alone. Then again I just miss Brookes.

Just venting steam, I am just becoming increasingly despondent about this entire endeavour.

 

[SergMx]

Agreed, I’m just being pedantic, I just find it lazy; if there is content we are missing do something in game to highlight this, not some 2 hour long social media blog… don’t waste our time.

I agree it is likely totally irrelevant. My assumption is primarily based upon their continued sly reference to things they won’t name, invoking the name of Braben etc. like they aren’t allowed to say the word Raxxla.

Just venting steam.

It's much worse, how can you look for something and get answers where there are artificially limited areas without any explanation. You can not fly there because it is simply limited in the code of the game.

 

[Rochester]

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Agreed, Roger that.

I’m just being overly pedantic, when you love something so passionately, one tends to overreact

I just find such actions misleading; if there is content we are missing do something in game to highlight this, fix it, not some 2 hour long social media blog… don’t waste our time, ultimately it just makes it feel like FD hold all the cards, which is disheartening.

I agree it is likely totally irrelevant. My assumption is primarily based upon their continued sly references to things they won’t name, invoking the name of Braben etc. like they aren’t allowed to say the word Raxxla directly!

It doesn’t actually help, it just confuses and conflates the issue. I wish they just left it all alone. Then again I just miss Brookes.

Just venting steam, I am just becoming increasingly despondent about this entire endeavour.

I sympathise! I’m in burnout & not playing at the moment.
I think this is FD’s attitude, which I also find very off-putting. I find livestreams generally a complete waste of time and nor do I tweet at all! Perhaps I’m just showing my luddite age, I like a storyline! But I’m having difficulty in finding books that I want to read at the moment.
Agreed, I miss him too. While MB’s hints were never very helpful, they at least gave the impression that someone was listening to us!
Never mind, Starfield is on its way! Though I’m no longer holding out much hope for that either

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

It's much worse, how can you look for something and get answers where there are artificially limited areas without any explanation. You can not fly there because it is simply limited in the code of the game.

Well, FD are letting the Guardian AI, Human AI, Thargoids and Guardian descendants get on with their own life styles until we’re ready to face them en masse.
Sol is where humanity started, but that’s permit locked!

 

[Rochester]

This all reminds me of that episode of Red Drawf and the micro dot within the swimming Certificate holding all the answers…

 

[Macros Black]

A rabbit-hole from May 2021: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/major-clue-s-on-raxxla-and-how-to-locate-it.579282/

Edit: Raxxla is invisible and can only be found using a graviton scanner.

 

[Rochester]

A rabbit-hole from May 2021: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/major-clue-s-on-raxxla-and-how-to-locate-it.579282/

Edit: Raxxla is invisible and can only be found using a graviton scanner.

Have been pondering upon this location myself for some time, it does seem interestingly placed.

Upon my initial enquiry I assumed these were hints towards a Thargoid narrative, potentially regarding human experimentation…

For the sake of tin-foolery; if we extrapolate these locations in relation to others, such as those systems first discovered, what could they show, if anything?

The first system is just outside the hypothetical ‘sphere of influence’ prescribed by the date 2296 from Tau Ceti, but it’s not close enough I initially established to warrant further investigation ‘at that time’, but I kept it on my radar.

However, if you apply the Yggdrasil systems, the star system closest to it within that model would be Nithhogg, and then Jotunheim, if viewed in direct alignment.

It is also typically within the hypothetical lower celestial hemisphere of the underworld if you accept my ‘John Milton’ and ‘Better to reign in hell’ hypothesis, so it would potentially fit. I think this is tantalising! Far more so than silly USS signals, thanks for reminding me of this…

The alignment of Achenar, Jotunheim, Nithhogg, and Col 285 Sector BG-O d6-93 might identify something, but what?

The other two systems mentioned in the above link, if relevant; don’t seemingly correlate initially, one being someway off (yet relatively close) and the other falls within the sphere of influence… however when you view all 3 together they might form a triangle?

This potential ‘triangle’ isn’t equilateral, but part of it does fall within the sphere of influence…within the lower celestial hemisphere, I will be attempting to plot its centre, which I suspect falls close to the ‘outer rim’ of the sphere of influence.

That is if the anomaly discussed was located in deep space, however from the logs it actually reads as just surface based, so very likely those logs IMO pertain to Thargoid / human hybrid experimentation, so in other words, Thargoids narrative, but who knows!

Crack open the tin-foil…

 

[SergMx]

A rabbit-hole from May 2021: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/major-clue-s-on-raxxla-and-how-to-locate-it.579282/

Edit: Raxxla is invisible and can only be found using a graviton scanner.

Hmm.
Remind me please in what year appeared 3D map system in the game?
Maybe this is the same tool?

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Have been pondering upon this location myself for some time, it does seem interestingly placed.

In relation to the systems first discovered, it is just outside the sphere of influence prescribed by Achenar and the date 2296, but not close enough I initially established to warrant further investigation ‘at that time’, but I kept it on my radar.

However, if you apply the Yggdrasil systems, the star system closest to it within that model would be Nithhogg, and then Jotunheim, if viewed in direct alignment.

It is also typically within the hypothetical lower celestial hemisphere of the underworld if you accept my ‘John Milton’ and ‘Better to reign in hell’ hypothesis, so it would potentially fit. I think this is tantalising.

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*White denotes Achenar, sphere of influence is centred on Sol to Achenar; yellow is Nithhogg, and Jotunheim; Red is Col 285 Sector BG-O d6-93.

The other two systems mentioned in the above link don’t seem to correlate initially, one being someway off (yet relatively close) and the other falls within the sphere of influence… however when you view all 3 together they might form a triangle.

This potential ‘triangle’ isn’t equilateral, but part of it does fall within the sphere of influence…within the lower celestial hemisphere, I will be attempting to plot its centre, which I suspect falls close to the ‘outer rim’ of the sphere of influence.

Crack open the tin-foil…

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The trip to Achenar may not have been straight from Tau Ceti. Capella contains bodies: Duval's Grave, Lawrence's Grave, Gold, Molotov's Claim, and Nobleworld. I would check the codex for the Empire and GalNet "Birth of an Empire". The first generation ship launched from Sol and then goes to Tau Ceti before going to Achenar. Achenar was settled by the Mayflower 97 from First Encounters journals. Regardless, Capella is visited very early by humans.

However, that could have been where Marlin Duval was taken to be executed by her brother.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

While we are on this line of thinking: Is Capella anywhere near the Marlinists area?

 

[Rochester]

The trip to Achenar may not have been straight from Tau Ceti. Capella contains bodies: Duval's Grave, Lawrence's Grave, Gold, Molotov's Claim, and Nobleworld. I would check the codex for the Empire and GalNet "Birth of an Empire". The first generation ship launched from Sol and then goes to Tau Ceti before going to Achenar. Achenar was settled by the Mayflower 97 from First Encounters journals. Regardless, Capella is visited very early by humans.

However, that could have been where Marlin Duval was taken to be executed by her brother.

Maybe but Capella is only 40 ly from Sol so is too close in my opinion to have any correlative relationship with that of Demeter, Persephone and Pandemonium; if my interpretation of the Codex (Cora being drunk / pirates) is valid, but will consider it.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Maybe but Capella is only 40 ly from Sol so is too close in my opinion to have any correlative relationship with that of Demeter, Persephone and Pandemonium, but will consider it.

Don't overthink things - even John Milton thought the mind created its own hell and heaven and usually not in favor of the individual. Whatever your intuition is saying run with that. The trip to Achenar must be completed between 2097 - 2296 (so 199 years). I think codex or Galnet put arrival in mid-2200s (believe this was "Birth of an Empire").

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Based on quotes from "Paradise Lost" seek Hell/Hades/etc as they will serve you better. Heaven comes only from the correct mindset. Besides, Hell in religious terms is an invention of man-kind to control the population. If there is anything like Hell it is closer to Hades than the Christian Hell. The Devil like Hades is allied with Zeus/God/whatever you choose to name it. They are not opposites. This is why I have long asserted we got TDW's invitation in the manual and we are both TDW/The Club at the same time. The Club is just the Elite Pilots' Federation. They do, however, very much run the Bubble even some of the Duval's and other key characters are former or current CMDRs. This is sadly where The Children of Raxxla got stuck. Duality is very often not real.

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[Rochester]

Source: https://youtu.be/zbEwpmiemOk

 

[Rochester]

Have been pondering upon this location myself for some time, it does seem interestingly placed.

In relation to the systems first discovered, it is just outside the sphere of influence prescribed by Achenar and the date 2296, but not close enough I initially established to warrant further investigation ‘at that time’, but I kept it on my radar.

However, if you apply the Yggdrasil systems, the star system closest to it within that model would be Nithhogg, and then Jotunheim, if viewed in direct alignment.

It is also typically within the hypothetical lower celestial hemisphere of the underworld if you accept my ‘John Milton’ and ‘Better to reign in hell’ hypothesis, so it would potentially fit. I think this is tantalising! Far more so than silly USS signals, thanks for reminding me if this…

View attachment 347212

The alignment of Achenar, Nithhogg, Jotunheim and Col 285 Sector BG-O d6-93 might identify something?

The other two systems mentioned in the above link, if relevant; don’t seemingly correlate initially, one being someway off (yet relatively close) and the other falls within the sphere of influence… however when you view all 3 together they might form a triangle?

This potential ‘triangle’ isn’t equilateral, but part of it does fall within the sphere of influence…within the lower celestial hemisphere, I will be attempting to plot its centre, which I suspect falls close to the ‘outer rim’ of the sphere of influence.

Crack open the tin-foil…

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Triangulation completed, the system at the centre of these 3 points is: Scorpii Sector KC-V b2-2.

A Class M red star with no bodies, first discovered by an ‘Axis Mundi’ (how ironically apt).

Note this triangle is not equilateral, although it is flat e.g., on a 2 dimensional plain its not twisted, so it’s very distinct; however the exact X, Y, Z position of the central point is just a ‘nearest system’ match, there’s nothing actually there.

When comparing it with the hypothetical John Milton sphere of influence, from Tau Ceti to Pandemonium, this central point ‘almost’ falls close to the ‘outer rim’, if we reset it to Achenar it falls just inside it. How very peculiar!

Totally tin foil of course, I’ve just visited it and there’s absolutely nothing there (in Legacy), except for some USS salvage POIs, but nevertheless an enjoyable dalliance, this is why I tin-foil…

It might be worth a jump around and investigate those systems in that general area, but very likely this was just another example of Apophenia, those mysterious anomalies might only be evidence of FD seeding ‘environmental storytelling’ relating to the Thargoids / human hybrid storyline…

Additional tin-foil… the Research Facility 5592, which is linked to a mysteriously unknown but classified signal isn’t relatively far off this central area… if viewed in alignment it might be related, but that foil is too long off to fit at present…

Somewhere to go at least, USS’s aren’t enough to hold my attention. Seaward ho!