This would indeed be an amazing pack, perhaps one of their best scenery packs. Though I would pick the manatee instead of the penguin. The other animal choices are great however.
Everything petting zoo/farm/domestic animals pack
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How to anger Oceania players in one step. Definitely some overlap in islands and coastal, I can see coastal being very north American centric due to the key animals in this region
Guys there's a new thread dedicated to this subject
Yeahhhh. Now y'all have made Quell cry
Yeah, sorry about that.
Not the first person to throw out this idea but I think the best "compromise" is a children's zoo scenery pack with modern and farm building pieces that includes a mix of domestics and fitting wild species. For instance:
- Nigerian dwarf goat
- Guianan squirrel monkey
- Helmeted guineafowl (doubles as both a domestic and a wild species that can go in mixed African savannah habitats)
- Patagonian mara
- Rainbow lorikeet (WE)
Yeah but its also on multiple platforms including playstation, xbox and switch. So its clearly cheating
Considering that this pack is one of the only chances I see of us getting an Old World Porcupine (that isn’t just a Grasslands Pack 2.0) I’d be pretty disappointed with this lineup. The goat, squirrel monkey and rainbow lorikeet are all great options, but I’d have to sub the Mara for the more highly requested and unique Crested Porcupine, and the Helmeted Guineafowl for some kind of Rabbit, which would bring to the game a completely new type of animal!
I get the feeling that the guineafowl is something we all want in the game but ironically is the 1st we'd sacrifice for something else
It would go to ALL my savannah exhibits. But, as you put it I just don't see slot worth giving up
The guineafowl would be great for like savanna habitats and all but... I'd much rather the grey crowned crane for the exact same purpose the guineafowl would fill.
You know, considering that we technically have the pieces for a nice children's zoo (mix-up of Conservation and New Works pieces) plus the little education station areas we got in update 1.10 (which I'm kinda disappointed we have to supply the images/sounds ourselves for them, but whatever), I'd say that a children's zoo DLC could be better as an animal pack:
- Crested porcupine
- Helmeted guineafowl
- Nigerian dwarf goat OR African pygmy goat
- Patagonian mara
- Watusi-ankole cattle
- Domestic donkey
- Squirrel monkey
- Walkthrough exhibit/s:
- Rainbow lorikeet
- Budgerigar
- Lovebird
- Quaker parrot
- Sun conure
I would sacrifice a lot to get it
I’d definitely accept the guineafowl in an animal pack, where there are seven other animals to draw me. But in a scenery pack, where there are precious few slots, I’d feel hard done by almost. Especially with a theme as controversial as a ‘children’s zoo/petting zoo pack’. You need BIG draws, like a goat, rabbit, porcupine, lorikeet, squirrel monkey, tamarin, highland cow, pony, coati etc etc to draw the attention of the public. I don’t think your average person is going to get as excited about a guineafowl, simply because they do not have anything particularly EXCITING. It’s cute, sure, but it would really only work as a Savannah habitat filler species or a farm or bird house filler species.
So sure, in an animal pack it’d be an EXCELLENT choice to bulk out a roster and give us a cute animal. But in a scenery pack, particularly a Children’s Zoo Scenery Pack, it’d feel like a real let down.
Isn't this (birds always last in line) the kind of logic that's led us to having only three birds in the game that aren't either ratites or penguins? I would absolutely take a guineafowl--which is both a unique animal and extremely flexible--over a rabbit, and we should get it and the grey crowned crane (the fact that we have so many needed birds with limited slots left just reflects badly on Frontier for including so few birds so far--we still have only three that aren't ratites or penguins). Patagonian mara vs. crested porcupine is another dilemma where we have neither and ought to have both, and despite being of the same order I do think a children's zoo pack could include both. For an animal pack-sized roster:
- Nigerian dwarf goat
- Scottish highland cow
- Sardinian donkey
- Patagonian mara
- Crested porcupine
- Helmeted guineafowl
- Guianan squirrel monkey
- Rainbow lorikeet (WE)
And they can always just add a bunch of color variations to the guineafowl, if they don't think people will find it interesting enough
I'm not against birds at all. In fact, I'm kinda hoping we get at least 1 bird per pack this year, but I think the disadvantage with habitat birds is that they all are similar in movements: the bobbing walk, random flaps of the wings, etc.
I can name many birds that are different, like the secretary bird, turkey, stork, but even then they'd have a lot of similarities to what we already have (please correct me if I'm wrong)
In the case of mammals, there is way more variety in what we could potentially get: spider monkeys will have unique animations, rabbits are totally unique, and all the countless small carnivorans, such as martens and stoats and ferrets....
But I still want an Avian animal pack
Guineafowls got very unique sounds and can be housed in big groups. They stand out from the birds we got already
You know, I've never heard their sounds before (not that I remember).
Ironically, my great grandma had some guineafowl on her land alongside some peafowl, and as a toddler I actually do remember chasing them...
Why am I bringing this up? Oh whatever
On the subject, I think that guineafowl are the best habitat bird for a children's zoo/domestic pack
Nope! I could name ten habitat birds thay would just be much more exciting and bring so much more to the game.
The guineafowl, while cute, acts primarily as a Savannah filler animal. There are other habitat birds that will give us more versatile usage, are brighter coloured and more interesting to the general public, and can be used to give us more ‘aviary birds’ without an aviary system. Eg. Victoria Crowned Pigeon, Scarlet Ibis, Waldrap Ibis, Roseate Spoonbill, Shoebill, Secretary Bird, Roadrunner, Burrowing Owl, Ducks/Geese/Swans. These birds all fit as habitat animals considering the current habitat birds (some can fly, but all are very active on the ground/walking), and would add so much more for a general player than the guineafowl.
The guineafowl is cute, yes, but there are many other birds I’d add before I add that one in terms of uniqueness, excitement and versatility. The reasons I give do not extend to all habitat birds, rather just the one which I don’t find offers anything particularly new or thrilling to the game. It’s like if I said I’d prefer other animals in game over the Lar Gibbon, and someone said that this logic stops us getting any more primates in game. No. I’d love to see so many more primates in game, but ones that add something EXCITING like a Spider Monkey, Mantled Guereza or Aye Aye. I just think there are other animals that would do the job of ‘bird’ better.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d use the guineafowl if we got it. But not beyond just another species in my mixed Savannah habitat. And I think that goes the same for a lot of people.