Totally true!
Fall DLC 2023 Speculation
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just go to Steam DB and compare the data collected there.
That's because there was literally no more ideas while there are plenty remaining for PZ for 2024.
Yes, until the game is formally announced they need to continue to engage with fanbase and keep them committed. Games take years to develop and are announced in the final year. If Frontier ends DLCs 4 years before PZ2 release, the fanbase will dissipate and a rival game studio might try to take the market.
Exactly, besides it's not like they're fresh out of ideas that quick
.I still believe the current PZ can very well make it to the fifth anniversary next year. We just gotta keep the fire burning
JWE2 already was the Most succesful Game Last year. It surely profits from the movie Brands and from console port (even me has JWE2 now as it was Part of the PS Plus Essential Games for free this month)
Back with the spectacled bear in polar or temperate climate, I think if it fits into temperate climate themed pack, I have my bets on the following:
Spectacled Bear
Wild Boar
Japanese Serow
Tasmanian Devil
Ex) King Cobra OR Red-eared Slider
+ Pheasant species (eg. Golden Pheasant),
primate species (eg. Golden Snub nose Monkey),
and another mammalian critter (eg. Tanuki) if it's gonna be an animal pack.
Any other ideas?
Spectacled Bear
Wild Boar
Japanese Serow
Tasmanian Devil
Ex) King Cobra OR Red-eared Slider
+ Pheasant species (eg. Golden Pheasant),
primate species (eg. Golden Snub nose Monkey),
and another mammalian critter (eg. Tanuki) if it's gonna be an animal pack.
Any other ideas?
I see no major drop-off, basically the more recent packs are selling better than the older packs with 2023 Tropical and Arid doing significantly better than 2022 Grasslands.
Deluxe
- #1544 in top sellers
- #993 in top sellers
- #936 in top sellers
- #923 in top sellers
- #623 in top sellers
- #988 in top sellers
- #828 in top sellers
- #811 in top sellers
- #804 in top sellers
- #635 in top sellers
- #680 in top sellers
- #498 in top sellers
- #458 in top sellers
- #366 in top sellers
- #307 in top sellers
Is it a weekly or monthly list? It seems clear that newer Packs are now Higher on the list of sold DLC because a Lot of people have the older DLC. Interesting would be what Positions the other packs had when they were released.
Yes I have the same dude
Interesting that aquatic still stands as the outlier from the general trend of dlc popularity in relevance of release date. Apart from that it doesn't tell us anything new that we didn't already know about.
Can someone make this comparison?
I think if we’re talking temperate pack, this is a likely lineup in my eyes:
• North American Porcupine
• European Bison
• Eurasian Wild Boar
• Tasmanian Devil
• Southern Black Widow (E)
The Tasmanian Devil only fits this theme at a stretch, since I’d expect this pack to focus on temperate woodland, and less on the dry sclerophyll forests that the Tassie lives in, but it’s so highly requested at this point that it’s inclusion seems likely.
The other animals I’ve listed are quintessential ‘woodland’ animals, with two European hoof-stock species that are keystone animals in woodland biomes here, and the Porcupine which would give us a unique rig, and our first DLC arachnid, both of which would represent the North American woodlands.
This pack lineup would be what I’d expect, with some Temperate North American scenery (perhaps Native American building sets or classic Log Cabin) or Celtic Stone to compliment the animal lineup.
• North American Porcupine
• European Bison
• Eurasian Wild Boar
• Tasmanian Devil
• Southern Black Widow (E)
The Tasmanian Devil only fits this theme at a stretch, since I’d expect this pack to focus on temperate woodland, and less on the dry sclerophyll forests that the Tassie lives in, but it’s so highly requested at this point that it’s inclusion seems likely.
The other animals I’ve listed are quintessential ‘woodland’ animals, with two European hoof-stock species that are keystone animals in woodland biomes here, and the Porcupine which would give us a unique rig, and our first DLC arachnid, both of which would represent the North American woodlands.
This pack lineup would be what I’d expect, with some Temperate North American scenery (perhaps Native American building sets or classic Log Cabin) or Celtic Stone to compliment the animal lineup.
questions...
Would an Expansion Pack be seen as something more than a new DLC pack? (I would have thought yes)
Could the support for base game end and then start onwards from the theoretical expansion pack?
Wouldn't the autumn season / anniversary date be the best time to release such an larger expansion? - leading into the festive season.
The largest installments of the game have come in the latter months of the year - base game, aquatic pack and twilight pack (it was 'late')
So in my mind logically IF there was going to be a major expansion then the next date in the schedule which could be a late autumn release is the time to do this. Flying, monkey business, egg laying or full aquatics would be bigger updates than swimming and the walkthrough exhibits. And if Planet Zoo has hope of continuing for a few years in some form it needs to start introducing these concepts.
So I would say hypothetically that a this stage Frontier have nothing to lose with an Aviary Expansion Pack. It either flops and well the game was going the way of the dodo anyway OR it takes off the shelves and the has gathered some renewed interest to continue for another 4 years.
But then what do I know?
Would an Expansion Pack be seen as something more than a new DLC pack? (I would have thought yes)
Could the support for base game end and then start onwards from the theoretical expansion pack?
Wouldn't the autumn season / anniversary date be the best time to release such an larger expansion? - leading into the festive season.
The largest installments of the game have come in the latter months of the year - base game, aquatic pack and twilight pack (it was 'late')
So in my mind logically IF there was going to be a major expansion then the next date in the schedule which could be a late autumn release is the time to do this. Flying, monkey business, egg laying or full aquatics would be bigger updates than swimming and the walkthrough exhibits. And if Planet Zoo has hope of continuing for a few years in some form it needs to start introducing these concepts.
So I would say hypothetically that a this stage Frontier have nothing to lose with an Aviary Expansion Pack. It either flops and well the game was going the way of the dodo anyway OR it takes off the shelves and the has gathered some renewed interest to continue for another 4 years.
But then what do I know?
Expansion Pack and starting PZ 2.0 instead of a new PZ 2 would surely my prefered Thing and would be a good Thing for all Players for the beginning. But to be honest a new game brings more Money and more new players (getting everything gets more expensive with every Pack) to the game unfortunately. I Hope for an Expansion and an Evolution of the Game but I Just seriously doubt it. And for a PZ sequel birds are surely one Main reason for people to buy it. I See no real other reason to buy a new Zoo game in 3-4 years after we already have this great choice and quality of animals.
Announcement/Launch Trailer views (but these accumulate over time). In my opinion, launch trailers correlate more with how attractive the videos are made (and how often they are shared to the non-buying public) as opposed to intent to buy. Announcement vids capture more accurately interest.
Arctic Pack: 369k (launch only)
South America: 131k, 307k
Australia: 127k, 251k
Aquatic: 194k, 395k
Southeast Asia: 132k, 246k
Africa: 105k, 235k
North America: 130k, 196k
Europe: 111k, 177k
Wetlands: 103k, 244k
Conservation: 90k, 149k
Twilight: 78k, 96k
Grasslands: 78k, 278k
Tropical: 77k, 77k
Arid: 56k, 41k
Up to Arid Pack, there seemed to be a fair consistency with 2022. 2023 Tropical Pack announcement trailer is similar to Q3/Q4 2022 Twilight and Grasslands announcement trailers.
In Arid Pack, you see a sharp drop-off although this may be due to the announcement trailer being released so recently. Give it 2-3 months and we'll see.
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I think it's better not to hope for something like an 'expansion pack'. There is zero indication that Frontier would ever do something like that for this game.
I think we are overreacting, anyone here doesnt know when the game will stop receiving updates and dlc, the only ones that know that is frontier. I posted my opinion days ago, I would like to see at least 2024 dlc and a 5th anniversary to say goodbye
Again, nobody is claiming to have more knowledge about the endgame than anyone else. I'm starting to think that this contrarianism around the game ending is an emotional reaction, not a logical examination. Let's look at the facts once again:
- Highly requested species are being released far more frequently than ever before.
- We haven't had a major feature update in a while, the new update features are comparatively minor and simplistic.
- There is potentially a new Planet game on the horizon, and as we know Planet Coaster wound down when Planet Zoo was coming up.
- Not to mention, AFAIK the sales figure of Planet Zoo are shrinking.