Indra is an indo-european storm god (think thor or zeus) - and mount meru is a navel with a net on it … just like the omphalos … both symbols of the world axis. 😉

Im not saying it isnt swaddling cloth on the omphalos - but when you look at classical figures of rhea handing over the “swaddled “ stone -it looks like cloth. But on the versions of the various omphaloi- it looks like a net. At the very least they are different stories that seem to be describing something of very similar nature.
 
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The pattern on that particular omphalos was unique I believe, it’s thought it may have been solely a decorative element to a larger work called ‘the dancers’, another structure which is on display in a museum where that image of the omphalos also resides, various other omphalos stones were located all over the area at various temples across Greece, of varying sizes and shapes it’s likely therefore this more elaborate design was decorative, whilst others were mere stone slabs (one theory ascribes early temples were built on meteorite strikes and totems carved from them!!!).. No definitive record exists to identify what that pattern ascribed to, it could be a net, but more commonly a net-like fabric pattern of cloth worn by priestesses, because there is no geometric continuity, some ascribed the stone had a physical covering and was a callback to the myth of Cronos. Generally the stone has a mixed heritage and has at least 3-4 origin myths. On the context of Raxxla I highly doubt that pattern has any relevance other than the stone as indication of an Axus Mundi.


 
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The pattern on that particular omphalos was unique I believe, it’s thought it may have been solely a decorative element to a larger work called ‘the dancers’, various omphalos stones were located all over the area at various temples across Greece, of varying sizes and shapes. No definitive record exists to identify what that pattern ascribed to, it could be a net, but more commonly a fabric pattern of cloth worn by priestesses, some ascribed the stone had a physical covering and was a callback to the myth of Cronos. Generally the stone has a mixed heritage and has at least 3-4 origin myths. On the context of Raxxla I highly doubt that pattern has any relevance other then an indication of an Axus Mundi.


Thanks for this - I forgot about the "dancers"
The dancers are the three fates… they are literally standing around the tree of life/axis - the strands of cloth that the fates weave are coming from the "omphalos" above... which is why it doesnt look like a swaddeling cloth - and why the omphalos is equated with the woumb - it is the ball of wool on the distaff (axis) before it goes to the spindle of necessity and the fates..... think Plato and the myth of Er.

Indras net is Fate - the Wheel of Fate... as a Net ... you cannot escape - its the same thing.

The wheel of fate of course being …the dark wheel…

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE NET METAPHOR IN THE "ORESTEIA" on JSTOR
 
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What is Raxxla?

I have been thinking that it might be useful to take a look at what we have, at this point. What would work, in the game mechanics and in the story.

What is Raxxla?:
- Most of the info we have suggest that Raxxla it self, is a rather mundane object. A moon, a planet an asteroid or something. It could be artificial, but most likely it's a natural space object.
-There is a fair chance that Raxxla is hidden in some way. This would mean that it does not show up on the system map, after scanning a system. A hidden Raxxla could be natural (very large distance to star, small size or covered by some dark nebulosity). Raxxla could also be hidden with some form of technology (cloaking).

What is Raxxla's function?:
- The hints we have suggests that Raxxla's function is to house some kind of portal device, that was built by advanced aliens. We can call it the Ompalos rift, an alien construct or a golden ladder. Either way the function is to transport someone to another location. It's not unlikely that it actually gives access to two different locations. This would fit with the upper world / normal world / underworld theme.

How old is Raxxla?:
- Raxxla it self may be as old as time, but the portal is probably relatively new. If we assume that the aliens that built the portal on Raxxla are the basis for some of the mythology and religion that we try to interpret, we can sort of date it.
We know that the poet Hesiod (between 750 and 650 BC) describes that he lives in the Iron age and that the gods had left earth. Before the Iron age, was the age of Heroes. The gods were present in this period that includes the battle of Troy (often dated 1194–1184 BC).
The human mythological history probably goes back another 10,000 years, so this might be the period (12,000 BC - 1,000 BC) where Raxxla was in active use by it's builders.
There might have been a small visit in about year 0. :giggle:

Where can Raxxla take us?:
- From a game play perspective it would be logical that it gives access to somewhere, that is unreachable without it.
Somewhere that is to far, somewhere that is locked or somewhere in a different reality.

- To far includes most of the universe but FD has clearly stated that the Milky way is the only galaxy in the game. We can reach most of the galaxy. To far, is therefor likely limited to far out systems, that are separated from the rest of the galaxy with more than the max jump distance of everything we can use. This may include satellite galaxies, as they are often seen as part of the milky way.

- Locked space is simple. There are a bunch of remote, permit locked sectors. Raxxla's portal could easily lead to one or two of these. From a pure game play and implementation perspective, this is the simplest solution. I feel it's a bit weak from a story perspective, as the permit locks would not have applied to the original builders.

- A different reality, could be almost anything. The two options that are actually mentioned in the game are hyperspace and the virtual AI world of the guardians (Monolith network). Both are valid options. Witch space is a central element in the TDW novella and the Guardian technology and time line is well established.

Where is Raxxla?:
- I have no clue. We can however assume that it is within practical travel distance from earth, for those who built it. We might also assume that there is some form of alignment between Raxxla and it's destination / destinations, or between Raxxla and Sol (earth). This could be a linear alignment or something more advanced, like 120° angles in a fixed plane or a 3D shape.

What do you think?
 
The fact that FD have attributed Raxxla with Milton’s Paradise gives us some additional insight. One: they call it the burning jewel on the brow of the mother of galaxies, Two: a pendant world.

This is a clear reference to the Miltonian model of a pendant universe. A featureless globe that contained our universe, it sat just below heaven, hung by a golden chain, this chain could morph into a golden stair, and this stair was retractable.

The older DW missions also I believe hinted towards this concept, the silent ‘song of the spheres’ and on the ‘outer rim’, were in my opinion Miltonian references to our pendant universe. As it contained and was constrained by the ‘spheres’ and Lucifer walked upon its outer rim.

This staircase led to the bejewelled gates of heaven. The chain led down to Eden.

Said golden ladder is the same as ‘Jacobs ladder’. Jacob dreamt of this ladder whilst resting/sleeping upon a Baetylus stone (another word for Omphalos).

The chain went through a wide opening at the convex, of this globe. Is that another metaphor for an omphalos rift?

Lucifer got there by more ingenious method by building a ‘fixed’ and ‘unmoved’ bridge from hell!

I would presume then that Raxxla leads to heavens gate, as it is this image which appears repeatedly in Brookes book cover and shield design!

It’s evident this story is actually rather expansive, right now I think the end goal might be rather metaphysical, at a minimum Guardian related but what if Raxxla is bigger, and not actually a planet, but rather a sector of stars?

The Yggdrasil system is peculiar because it’s top does correlate with Miltonian measurements and there are a few Rune named systems up there that are rather mysterious! I don’t know but I’m beginning to think Raxxla is a very big concept, not a smaller planet or star!

My initial thinking is the upper half of Yggdrasil represents the heavens, and it’s lower half its underworld, that it’s axis is the golden chain and Raxxla is either in the underworld / Lost Realms area, or above it somewhere between Artemis and Persephone; or it’s far below Axis Mundi or something else is there to direct us, like princess Astrophel…. Or it’s something conceptual…

At the bottom of Yggdrasil there is a Rune system meaning ‘Horse’ which is associated with ‘travel’ and ‘Odin’, I wonder if the path is more about knowledge. But I’m beginning to suspect if ‘Raxxla’ is a concept rather than a definitive place?

Who knows…
 
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I think Raxxla is something that you can fly through, which will transport you somewhere. The problem with this is what the player will find on the other side (and whether they can come back the same way!). The Magellanic Clouds or a distant star cluster are both options but what would one find there that we cannot already find elsewhere in the Milky Way? Alien ruins of the civilisation that built the gateway? Maybe - but it would require as many assets as the Guardians use right now, at a minimum. An active spacefaring civilisation is probably unlikely as that would require even more work to build.

Ultimately, I view the Quest for Raxxla as a Quest for Change. The objective is to find something that will teach us something profound about the history of our galaxy and our place in it. Something that will change how we see the Universe, change the context of our decision-making, so that nothing would seem the same afterwards. Epiphany.

No pressure, FD ;)
 
I think Raxxla is something that you can fly through, which will transport you somewhere. The problem with this is what the player will find on the other side (and whether they can come back the same way!). The Magellanic Clouds or a distant star cluster are both options but what would one find there that we cannot already find elsewhere in the Milky Way? Alien ruins of the civilisation that built the gateway? Maybe - but it would require as many assets as the Guardians use right now, at a minimum. An active spacefaring civilisation is probably unlikely as that would require even more work to build.

Ultimately, I view the Quest for Raxxla as a Quest for Change. The objective is to find something that will teach us something profound about the history of our galaxy and our place in it. Something that will change how we see the Universe, change the context of our decision-making, so that nothing would seem the same afterwards. Epiphany.

No pressure, FD ;)
I agree that there is a good chance you can fly through a portal.
From a progamer perspective it makes sense to make Raxxla / omphalos rift, a guardian construction. You could reuse a lot of assets. :)
 
Ya Indras Net is what i think Holdstock envisioned for the universe machine that was to be the Talmor Lens.

I suspect raxxla to be more mundane - a gate or gate system tied to the axis (whatever axis that turns out to be). Maybe with Guardian AI at one end and The Far God at the other….

I do like the idea of a rift that takes us into into a pocket of space ( maybe the LMC) - the space inbetween…
 
I agree that there is a good chance you can fly through a portal.
We already do that. This is more what in the heck is ripping open the wormhole? Not even a fusion power plant is actually capable of ripping a temporary hole in space-time. Fleet Carriers and our ships (per descriptions on FSD signatures) indicate something else opens the rift between systems. Get a FSD wake scanner and go scanning high wakes and low wakes. High wakes have an icon the looks like a wormhole. Low wakes looks like some sort of gate. I'd also challenge you to look at background stars (at approximately 60° relative to the tunnel) as you traverse the Witch-space tunnel (aka wormhole) and watch as space folds upon itself as you get ejected at your destination system.

Info on wormhole/blackhole traversability:

Physics makes science fiction look mundane by comparison.


Source: https://youtu.be/FR2TE_Wf5fw
 
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Also, if you own a fleet carrier you have a class-4 FSD. Carriers, megaships, and Dredgers use the same technology developed by Argent Almagmated Aerospace Inc. In other words, if you own a carrier, you have a Quest-class vessel.

MINER/PROCESSORS - A NEW DEVELOPMENT IN FUEL TECHNOLOGY

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Engineers and technologists at the New Rossyth Shipyard are developing a new generation of mining machines capable of converting base nuclear ores into fuel suitable for use by the new ‘Class 4’ military drives. A redevelopment of the core reactor in the ‘Class 4’ enables the drive to use a wider range of semi-stable fuels with an improved fuel conversion ratio - in crude terms, there is more ‘thrust per tonne’ than in the old ‘Class 3’ engines. The new M/Ps can be transported and landed in the same way as the old-style mining machines and are designed to make use of the wider range of potential fuels by mining, extracting and processing the raw materials to create fuel rods in the format required by the new ‘Class 4’ drives. If it works, this innovation removes the one of the last barriers to infinite distance deep space travel, however, to be effective, the machines have to survive long periods unattended in a wide variety of planetary environments and this has yet to be tested. We await further reports with interes
 
Throwing this out there because we have a new entry to the Axis Mundi/Tree of Life/Yggradasil theorycrafting but it comes from Soontill Earth. You see Elvira Martuuk was correct in that Soontill Relics were an elaborate human fraud.

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Hope this helps, @Rochester.

Consider this an unexpected gift from Martuuk.

As laboriously crafted objects, they testify to the concentration of power and resources in the hands of a small elite.

Elvira Martuuk is a well known explorer although she is rumoured to have once been a deadly assassin before heading out into black. Some have claimed she needed to 'cool off' after a particularly high profile case, so went exploring, but Elvira denies it. She is fascinated by all things alien, and has become expert at spotting human fakes. Her reputation is such that her base is rarely troubled by freebooters. She believes in being self-sufficient, and her tight-knit group grows all their own food. Develop your relationship with her to discover another engineer.

More info:

 
Which planet has pyramids and other megaliths all over?

Earth

I believe we are being told the Raxxlans paid us a visit. This may also be the identity of the Martian Relic.
The pyramids are fake :D

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RAISING THE KING.​

S.O.

The project to restore the Great Pyramid in the former state of Egypt on Earth is nearing completion. The final sections of stone facia are due to be erected in the next weeks, which means that the project should be open for public view before the end of the year. The public exhibition will chart the ancient history of the Pyramid, from its cosmic beginnings through modern ideas of its origins and purpose, its partial destruction and burial during the global war of the mid twenty-first century, to the recent reconstruction project. The project leader Lianne Dilingeris very happy with the progress made following the generous patronage of former Federation Executive Robert Lodge , without which, she says, the project would have collapsed.

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Throwing this out there because we have a new entry to the Axis Mundi/Tree of Life/Yggradasil theorycrafting but it comes from Soontill Earth. You see Elvira Martuuk was correct in that Soontill Relics were an elaborate human fraud.

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Hope this helps, @Rochester.

Consider this an unexpected gift from Martuuk.





More info:

Nice!

These things are the right colour, the right size and are often used as a pendant.
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The pyramids are fake :D

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RAISING THE KING.​

S.O.

The project to restore the Great Pyramid in the former state of Egypt on Earth is nearing completion. The final sections of stone facia are due to be erected in the next weeks, which means that the project should be open for public view before the end of the year. The public exhibition will chart the ancient history of the Pyramid, from its cosmic beginnings through modern ideas of its origins and purpose, its partial destruction and burial during the global war of the mid twenty-first century, to the recent reconstruction project. The project leader Lianne Dilingeris very happy with the progress made following the generous patronage of former Federation Executive Robert Lodge , without which, she says, the project would have collapsed.

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😱

How did I miss that one? Thank you.
 
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