Interesting find. Brookes wrote a lot on Tau Ceti. Tau Ceti is of course where the Raxxla rumors originated. It mentions galaxies and Small and Large Megallanic Clouds (also referenced by Holdstock). Andromeda Galaxy is also mentioned (also a Holdstock reference).

Ahh interesting - its back up…. You could only access it via the wayback machine for a while….. Ya Rouge planet with sun dragons from the LMC goes to Tau Ceti and kills off ancient civilization which contacts earth to pass on info… or something like that. Very sus
 
Thinking on how we deduce a way forward. The latest expansion is called Odyssey. I think we need to see the wind god Aeolus. Something there should tell us what is next.

Illiad - Journey from Greece and Trojan War
Odyssey - The epic journey home

How did Odysseus find his way home?

Fleeing the land of the Cyclopes, Odysseus found his ships nearing Aeolia, home of Aeolus, the god of the winds. Aeolus used to blow the wind over the sea and the land. After hearing of Odysseus' journey home, Aeolus gave him a bag full of winds that would guide him home safely.

 
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The closest system to Aeolus is Yoruba. I suspect this is the lesson we are supposed to learn (from Wikipedia on Yoruba religion):

Yoruba beliefs explained in brief:
Each person living on earth attempts to achieve perfection and find their destiny in Orun-Rere (the spiritual realm of those who do good and beneficial things).

One's ori-inu (spiritual consciousness in the physical realm) must grow in order to consummate union with one's "Iponri" (Ori Orun, spiritual self).[4]

Iwapẹlẹ (or well-balanced) meditative recitation and sincere veneration is sufficient to strengthen the ori-inu of most people.[2][4] Well-balanced people, it is believed, are able to make positive use of the simplest form of connection between their Oris and the omnipotent Olu-Orun: an adura (petition or prayer) for divine support.

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All these place names kind of guide us. Though, I do think keeping in mind larger broad themes such as from Odyssey and Odysseus' journey home may help to keep us on the path.

At this point:
  • We started off in the real world. Many CMDRs believing (falsely) that Elite Dangerous was a separate Universe.
  • We stepped into the Otherworld of the past only to realize - hey things look familiar. In the Otherworld, it was revealed this is the same Universe.
  • We are starting our epic journey to Raxxla after realizing things don't seem so foreign after all.
  • Clearly the term "Odyssey" is supposed to a guide as to how to proceed.
 
In the Artemis system, the Freeholm base, the beacon and the Legacy have a surprising temperature.
Knowing that there is no star nearby, it should not be this high.

For the moment I haven't seen this phenomenon anywhere else.

This number corresponds to the largest number that can be represented on 64 bits minus 1. (2^64-1)
This could be due to the FSS inability to measure the temperature at this location.
(or it is just a bug)
 

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Just took the time to map every underworld, otherworld, lost world or related entities that Wikipedia could point me towards.

Apart from a handful of them (Hel, Yama, Naraka, probably some others I forgot) they seem to form a half-sphere centered on Achenar. This brings me to two hypotheses:
  1. this is just Imperial theme naming and we're chasing a false track
  2. they point in the general direction of Raxxla... hopefully
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Following on from my assessments of the Lost Realms area in connection with the larger Yggdrasil system there is new information which might widen the search, and is similar to the findings of @El Saico.

From the image below we can see the Yggdrasil systems. I have overlaid the systems which correspond to Greek gods. The white lines all relate to the Triad Goddess focused upon Persephone.

Persephone is at the same focal point for the system Axis Mundi and is encircled by the Greek underworld systems. And the lost Realms system begin there.

Now what I find interesting is that the wider pantheon of Greek gods, shown in green, do seem to occur across the same width of Yggdrasil.

However, Axis Mundi seems off centre in relation to the core centre of Yggdrasil!

Likewise the Lost Realms area, as well as the path of Brookes tour are going away from Axis Mundi.

In that area / direction, there is another focal point of Yggdrasil systems. I believe this identifies a potential intelligence gap.

I am still collecting data on lost realms; is this only half of the story?

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Around this area of interest are the following Norse mythological named systems:

Niflhel - Norse mythology, meaning misty hell, could be the lowest area of hell.

Jotunheim - Norse mythology, land of giants, Jotnar - relatives of the gods. It’s located on the edge of the world, far north west, described as a location no one can get to by normal means (mythical lost land?).

For now I believe these Norse systems shown below correctly identify the shape and orientation of Yggdrasil.

Nithhogg - Norse mythology, dragon who gnaws at the root of Yggdrasil, relative to Nilfheim (just above this location).

Jera - Norse Rune, meaning winter, harvest, ending and beginnings.

Laguz - Norse Rune, meaning water and sea.

Algiz - Norse Rune, meaning protection, defence and prosperity.

Ingwaz - Norse Rune, meaning knowledge, perfection and fertility.

Ehwaz - Norse Rune, meaning horse, progress / travel through spiritual realm, Odin.

Also in this area of interest are various systems named after deities. Two such examples are: Njoror of the sea and its riches, and then there is Idunn the keeper of the apples of eternal youth!
 
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Ahh interesting - its back up…. You could only access it via the wayback machine for a while….. Ya Rouge planet with sun dragons from the LMC goes to Tau Ceti and kills off ancient civilization which contacts earth to pass on info… or something like that. Very sus
There is a quite interesting alignment between the LMC and the Draco dwarf galaxy.
Even the distances from Sol fit ok, with Milton’s description.
 
The Draco dwarf is very faint. It would not be visible in the sky, from the bubble.
Perhaps it’s findable in the galmap?
The distance from the Draco dwarf to Sol is estimated to be around 260-290kly, significantly farther than even the LMC's 163kly. That seems a hard no for me.

However, given how Milton describes Satan's descent into Eden from a Ptolemaic perspective, the orbital poles are a valid bet indeed - but the Cat's Eye nebula is a safer pick for the North (as it moves significantly slower than even good old Polaris).

The current southern pole is Polaris Australis in the Octans constellation; by 3300 it'll have moved further towards Crux (AKA Southern Cross), so they're possible regions to look around.

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(image taken from Wikipedia; Sigma Octantis is Polaris Australis, while the Southern Pointers are Alpha and Beta Centauri)

...is there anything at the intersection of the Southern Cross (Acrux, Becrux, Gacrux, Delta Crucis)?

Hm. Looking at GalMap, Gacrux is in the Bubble (!), significantly farther from the others but not very far from the Old Worlds (!!).
 
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but the Cat's Eye nebula is a safer pick for the North
Ya i think there is a very round-about reason Rackham created that “furthest north” station - rackham peak…. He is known as Calico Jack (pirate) …. Personally I think another alias of his is the winking cat (thief) …. Calico being a type of cat and pirates often wearing eye patches…. Cats Eye
 
Ya i think there is a very round-about reason Rackham created that “furthest north” station - rackham peak…. He is known as Calico Jack (pirate) …. Personally I think another alias of his is the winking cat (thief) …. Calico being a type of cat and pirates often wearing eye patches…. Cats Eye
Percy Shaw, who invented Cat’s Eyes, was a Yorkshireman! 😁

Believe it made him a fortune...personally I’m working on Labrador’s Ears..
But they're always rather gunky! 🥺

(Sorry, best I can do on only one mug of coffee and largely awake since 03:00 - came down last Thursday with either a dose of covid or summer flu. At 03:00 my nose was running a marathon)
 
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personally I’m working on Labrador’s Ears..
But they're always rather gunky! 🥺

Ya constant battle with my dogs eyes as well- Hope you feel better soon!

Ive just finished Brookes Tour ... And I find myself back in Sol

For a while I have thought that following Holdstocks tour of the Galaxy had a significance towards our path to Raxxla. The first destination (outside of a couple space stations) is Pluto (where there should be ancient ruins). But we cant land there…

Having recently acquired a copy of the Necronomi...err oh I already have that one… I mean “Lost Realms” by Holdstock and Edwards… at the End of the Book a section is set in the “Future” and this section is talking about the myth of ancient earth and again referring to ancient remains of alien cities and the G'chathraga on Pluto …. But what I find interesting is how it describes it – as a portal to the underworld – and focusing on the tomb: A Tall Pyramid so high above the land that the eagle could hardly fly to its top; it stretched so deep into the underworld that its roots were in Hell itself.

My first thought was that they redid Pluto I think in the Horizons 2.2 but – then ya still cant land there… NASA had just updated pictures of Pluto and Geography like the Cthulu Macula (I thought maybe we are looking for a large mountain and corisponding chasm in the Cthulu Macula) what they also added then was all the extra dwarf planets at the end of the solar system including Persephone...

Were the G'chathraga watching Earth from the most remote of its planetary neighbours?
-From "Lost Reams"

What if ED just shifted it to “current” remotest planet… and kept the theme of the underworld… Persephone is not a real planet in our solar system….


This brings me to the Nemo Point Idea:

Nemo Point is a place in the southern Pacific ocean which is the furthest point from land on the earth. The area was used initially by Lovecraft to be the location of the mythical land of R'lyeh… 60 or so years later it was identified as the furthest point from land and because of that has become a standard “safe” place to drop satellites… It has become a spaceship graveyard….

Nemo Point:
  • Furthest point away from land on Earth
  • Chosen place for a spaceship graveyard
  • Location of R'lyeh

In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulu waits dreaming….


Persephone:
  • Most Remote Planet in the Solar System
  • Heavy gravity causes many crashed space ships
  • Entrance to the Underworld?

The Dark Wheel was supposedly based at Tionisla Orbital Graveyard before they moved....

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Oh ya just saw this Persephone Expedition..
 
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Thanks mate, a bit better now than I was Friday....
Needless to say I’m not flying at the moment!

Personally, I think naming Planet IX/X in-game as Persephone was the first hint in the revised set of clues. It draws attention to the Eleusinian Mysteries....there are quite a few objects named Persephone in-game!

The Guardians 2.2 update added “Persephone (Planet Nine), Haumea, Makemake, Eris, Orcus, 2002 MS4, Salacia, Quaoar, 2007 OR10 and Sedna to Sol” in 25Oct2016. I suspect the original “Raxxla storyline” (using the Shinrarta permit -it’s a long “personal journey” to reach Elite, different Pilots Federation (factions) spellings in the SD TB, Real Dark Wheel -as one of those PF factions, and E/F missions -given by PF/Real Dark Wheel acting against the TDW faction in SD) was deleted in early 2016.
 
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As above so below, a clear dominion set out in game of a heaven and a hell.

*this list is not definitive and will be updated.

The following list is a compilation of gods I’ve found during my explorations. This by no way definitive, but independent from my Holdstock / Yggdrasil expeditions I noticed a number of odd relationships, and wondered about their placement in game.

At fist everything seemed arbitrary, but following my investigations into Yggdrasil and then the correlation of the Greek wind gods, and a prescribed new alignment I began seeing a pattern.

It looks to me that certain systems named after deities are positioned intentionally to advocate clear division of an upper and lower celestial area.

This same alignment also follows suit with the pantheon of Greek gods, and the Yggdrasil systems.

This effectively goes towards confirming my previous hypothesis, drawing similar comparisons but also oddities, which I feel ties in with the Holdstock Lost Realms area. Where there is a universal focal point advocating an underworld.

I do suspect that certain underworld systems are associated to identify a focal point, and that various links concerning lost realms direct us to this same location, where there is a common theme associated with Robert Holdstock’s theory, as Eden (Raxxla) as a lost realm or an ‘Otherworld’.

Robert Holdstock did utilise the term in his book ‘so above, as below’. Michael Brookes also wrote a few drabbles on a handful of theses entities.

This same pattern I feel marries with the previous Yggdrasil, and Miltonian theory, the path of Persephone and Lost Realms ascribed by the codex. The pattern I feel is directing us to the underworld and some associations with a land of youth (Eden) there-in.

Again this list is not definitive, I have other lists of Gods eg Rome, Greece and Norse, all under construction, not shown here; my focus here was primarily on lesser known gods or those not directly linked to a wider classical pantheon shown in game.

As above (systems with a +Y coordinate)
Boann - Celtic goddess
Danu - Celtic/Greek goddess of nature/knowledge
Asherah - Canaanite mother goddess (wife of El)
Ashtart - Canaanite Great Goddess, partner of Ba'al (the King).
El - Canaanite supreme god*l
Anat - Canaanite warrior goddess (sister of Baal).
Yam - Canaanite god of the sea
Hadad - Canaanite god of storms
Shalim - Canaanite god of dawn
Shapash - Canaanite sun goddess (relative in location to Greek god Helios).
Asherah - Semitic god of fertility and the sea.
Igaluk - Inuit god of the moon.
Malina - Inuit god of the sun.
Badb - Irish war goddess, triad of Morrigan.
Amun - Egyptian god of the sun and air.
Atum - Egyptian Sun god.
Shu - Egyptian god, peace, lions, air, and wind.
Geb - Egyptian Earth god, farther of snakes.
Osiris - Egyptian god, death and rebirth.
Nephthys - Egyptian god, sky and air.
Dea Motrona - Welsh mother goddess who gave birth to Mabon god of Light.
Sheela Na Gig - mother goddess/ fertility.
Shakpana (alt name Obaluayé, Sakpata, Soponna) Yoruba deity of disease / healing.
Sakpata (alt name Obaluayé, Shakpana, Soponna) Yoruba deity of disease / healing.
Olorun - Yoruba, deity who lived in the sky.
Oloduma - Yoruba supreme being
Orishis - Yoruba divine spirits.
Yoruba - Yoruba people’s.
Yama - Hindi god of death, king of hell!
Xolotl - Aztec god of sunset, fire, lightning, and death.

So below (systems with a -Y coordinate)
Aramzahd - Armenian creator god.
Aine - Celtic goddess sister of Boann.
Cernunnos - Celtic male fertility god.
Epona - Celtic goddess of horses and fertility (Holdstock links her to Avalon)!
El Tio - Bolivian lord of underworld
Erlik - Turkic Lord of underwold
Giltine - Lithuanian Goddess of death
Idunn - Norse goddess of the apples of eternal youth!
Yawa - Filipino slang for demon
Dana - Celtic Earth mother!
Don - Celtic mother goddess.
Donn - Celtic god, the dark one.
Anu - Celtic Earth mother linked to triad of the Morrigan.
Long - Chinese dragon
Lei Gong - Chinese thunder god.
Baal - Canaanite god of fertility, associated with Beezlebub
Mot - Canaanite god of death
Qetesh - Canaanite goddess of fertility / Egyptian goddess lady of the stars of heaven!
Anu - Mesopotamian god of heaven/sky!
Tiamat - Mesopotamian primordial god of the sea.
Apsu - Babylonian origin god, underground waters.
Nana Buluku - Yoruba god, river and earth*
Oya and Shango (body in Set), Yoruba gods of lighting and river gods. Set, Egyptian god instigator of confusion.
Obaluaye - Yoruba god, Earth god / disease and healing.
Oromila - Yoruba demi-dod of fivinity and wisdom.
Aje - Yoruba god, wealth.
Yawa - Yoruba god, rivers.
Tefnut - Egyptian god, rain.
Nut - Egyptian god, sky and heavens.
Isis - Egyptian god, mother, magic and healing.
Horus- Egyptian god, war and sky.
Nu - Egyptian god of destruction / water.
Nekhbet - Egyptian goddess, protector of the south.
Imentet - Egyptian goddess, She of the west.
Sopedu - Egyptian sky god, Sharp-One, or Lord of the East, a border-guardian.
Mabon - Welsh god of Light and the son of the Earth Mother Goddess, Dea Motrona.
Ra - Egyptian sun god.
Rid - Slavic gods who lived in the cosmic tree.
Soponna (alt name Obaluayé, Sakpata, Shakpana) Yoruba deity of disease / healing.
Yemaia - Yoruba deity mother goddess.
Teshub - Hurrians storm god.
Marduk - Sumerian Sun god.
Tlaloc - Aztec god of water and fertility.
Arawn - Welsh Lord of Otherworld / Lord of death.
Ankou - Breton servant of death.
Erio - Basque god of death.
Czernobog - Slavic god of death.
Morana - Slavic goddess of death and rebirth.
Mara - Slavic Earth mother.
Sin - Mesopotamia Moon god linked to Gilgamesh.
Gilgamesh - Sumerian king.

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I've been visiting some of the deity / underworld / mythological systems, preferring those that are uninhabited. Many of them are inhabited and some with significant populations.
Today only Ehwaz was interesting as there are many ringed bodies - however there are multiple Fleet Carriers in the system so I am not hopeful of finding anything from ring flybys. Planet 3 has a terraformable water world moon with its own moon and I mapped both and flew by the planet's rings and found nothing. I'll do the other rings in another session, as I don't have much energy and am close to burning out (hot weather and a high pollen count are not helping).

A thought about The Dark Wheel verse: 'The jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies' could perhaps mean an orange-coloured star? (The burning part makes me think of flames). I want to link the lines of that verse in with the mythology, in the hope it is giving a route to take that will lead to a particular system, rather than searching through thousands of systems in the Underworld region.
 
A thought about The Dark Wheel verse: 'The jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies' could perhaps mean an orange-coloured star? (The burning part makes me think of flames). I want to link the lines of that verse in with the mythology, in the hope it is giving a route to take that will lead to a particular system, rather than searching through thousands of systems in the Underworld region.
I believe the color we are looking for is a deep red (see first image attachment). This is based on Y-class dwarf in connection to the Soontill stories and a bolded section from "Alien World: A Complete Illustrated Guide" in connection to Altuxor/Kamelios/Ivixor B. If Raxxla is found first and Soontill as labeled by Universal Cartographics is not the real location the Soontill story is likely based upon Raxxla/Altuxor/Kamelios/Ivixor B*. Altuxor/Kamelios has a time anomaly in the system and is present in Holdstock's "Where the Time Winds Blow", "Alien World", and "Tour of the Universe" with possible mentions in some other sci-fi works realeased between 1974 - 1980 that I still haven't read, yet. Notable that the Faulcons of Faulcon Manspace and Faulcon-Delacy are linked to this larger mythos.

* - Ivixor B is interestingly enough memorialized by the stoner / doom metal band Electric Wizard from Dorset, England. They have quite interesting lyrics for a number of their songs.

Y'all are the ones who let an alien cultist based out of the California Nebula become one the lead Raxxla Hunters. The old lore comes at a price to the old gods.

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Side note: Seriously beginning to wonder if Saramandara Pearls is Pleiades region. Though, they are repeatedly referenced as a globalar cluster and not an open cluster (none of which are especially near Human space). I find it interesting the Raxxlan trading vessel looks all too Human.
 
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Kiiry are notably connected to "Sargasso Sea of Space". This was in the part I had trouble getting photos of at the bottom of the first image. Guess which tourist beacon is in the system the Antares vanished? Sargasso Sea of Space. Coincidence? Doubtful 🧐.
 
Side note: Seriously beginning to wonder if Saramandara Pearls is Pleiades region

Ya the Pleiades are one possibility. Also Alnilam – Orions belt... the string of pearls… Then there is that whole Pearl Cluster....

My favorite idea is it possibly referring to Indras Pearls / Indras Net which is tied to the Axis Mundi
Indra hung over his palace on Mount Meru a net of silk threads like a spider web… which extends to infinity… at each knot a precious gem …..

Ever wondered why when you look at depictions of the Omphalos you see a net covering it?

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An interconnected web of lenses that focus and twist the flow of spacetime..... Sound Familiar ?
 
The hexagon symbol has resurfaced in another location. Look at your navigation panel during Witch-space tunnel traversal next time you jump to a system. This only appears after the "blue flash" that occurs as you enter the Witch-space tunnel.

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Mate, your geography seems a little awry there...pareidolia?
That Omphalos stone is from Delphi, in Greece. Indra was a Hindu god from India which is about 5,700 km away.

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Might represent the swaddling cloth that Rhea wrapped the stone in so Cronus wouldn't realise it wasn't baby Zeus he was about to swallow...did Ancient Greek mothers do crochet? 😉
 
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