Game Discussions Bethesda Softworks Starfield Space RPG
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Regarding the just released AMD cards that come with Starfield bundled, I fully expect the 7800XT to replace my prior recommendation for the 6800XT as it seems to be launching right around the $500 mark and should be fully competitive in performance with better efficiency and some updated features.
The 7700XT looks like a bit of a rip-off, however. It's cut down enough that it will perform 15-20% worse than the 7800 XT, but only saves 10% on price.
The 7700XT looks like a bit of a rip-off, however. It's cut down enough that it will perform 15-20% worse than the 7800 XT, but only saves 10% on price.
Based on leaked info: we cannot seamlessly circumnavigate planets. We can only select a landing spot, the landing is scripted, and explore 1 landing zone. There are invisible walls at the limit of each landing zone. If we want to go to the next zone, we must use the ship again. So the engine can only load 1 planetary zone at a time. Each zone is about the size of 4x Skyrim (double the length from Riften to Markarth from the ship. It takes 40 minutes on foot.
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That's not what Pete Hines said and not what's being quoted online by various YouTube content creators based on his comments. We'll have to wait and see for ourselves, but should your suggestion be the case...it's not far from what most of us already accepted as a likely case scenario going by what we've already seen
What Pete said is probably a marketing spin. Technically we can explore the whole planet, but we have to get back into the ship to load the next zone. I would be happy if it were possible to just walk anywhere though.
We'll have to wait and see for ourselves, but should your suggestion be the case...it's not far from what most of us already accepted as a likely case scenario going by what we've already seen
Yeah, maybe modders can change the engine so that when u reach the barrier = automatically load the next zone with a fade to black. This wouldn't be seamless, but it's better than get back into the ship, select next location and land.
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Thanks for that! Elite being the first game I bought since the late 90s, I've missed out on a lot of 'experience' with gaming in general; even today my Steam library contains only 7 or 8 titles. About to go up my 1 next week.
Well, if the mod were good enough, I'd pay for it ('reasonably priced' of course). For example I'd definitely pay for a co-op mod (even though it may never be possible). But if they're free all the better.
On a positive note: I misread specs for the game and thought GTX 2080 was the minimum spec for the game (for Nvidia). It's not - it's 1070 Ti and my old laptop to be replaced soon runs a 1080. So it looks like I might be able to play after all! Will have to stick it on an SSD as my Windows partition will not be big enough. No more FOMO!
He did literally say you can walk around the planet, there will be much raging if it turns out you can't
Well, the way the engine has worked all the way since Morrowind, the map is already divided into a grid of smaller "cells", which stream in as you approach their boundaries...
What I remain curious about, is by which method they are projecting their square maps onto the spherical planets, without dimensional issues (Mercator is right out - I'd say :7). -We know how Elite Dangerous does it, by "inflating" a many times subdivided cube to a spherical constraint, and taking the inherent distortions into account (we do get those tank-track seams, though...), but that's with handcrafted areas presumably being "stamped down" more or less arbitrarily, as one-shot "brushes", rather than as tiling ortho maps.
I'm thinking it could possibly simply involve not going full ortho-maps-have-to-somehow-tile-seamlessly-all-around-the-sphere, but just taking a flat "pyramid" projection of a small section of the procgenned planet (maybe with desired orientation), that you want to edit, so that you could get a regular just-like-Skyrim-et-al ortho map in the Creation Kit, for only that handcrafted area, caring nothing for its surroundings, and then project that square right back down -- The whole strength to the netimmerse format, which makes the games so immensly moddable, is, after all, how everything is a modification of previous data... :7
What I remain curious about, is by which method they are projecting their square maps onto the spherical planets, without dimensional issues (Mercator is right out - I'd say :7). -We know how Elite Dangerous does it, by "inflating" a many times subdivided cube to a spherical constraint, and taking the inherent distortions into account (we do get those tank-track seams, though...), but that's with handcrafted areas presumably being "stamped down" more or less arbitrarily, as one-shot "brushes", rather than as tiling ortho maps.
I'm thinking it could possibly simply involve not going full ortho-maps-have-to-somehow-tile-seamlessly-all-around-the-sphere, but just taking a flat "pyramid" projection of a small section of the procgenned planet (maybe with desired orientation), that you want to edit, so that you could get a regular just-like-Skyrim-et-al ortho map in the Creation Kit, for only that handcrafted area, caring nothing for its surroundings, and then project that square right back down -- The whole strength to the netimmerse format, which makes the games so immensly moddable, is, after all, how everything is a modification of previous data... :7
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It's still rather pointless if you dont have the equivalent of a SRV and/or the Ship is not flyable in the atmosphere so you can skim the surface an fly by coordinates to any location in a really seamless way.
But honestly, i dont really expect SF to offer space sim features since it's a Bethesda RPG but with a ton of maps (the thousand planets) each made of tons of patches
Guess we will see in about a week.
No idea where the issue is. Outside of a few hardcore nerds: Who seriously considers just walking gods know how many hours to "circumvent a planet on foot in a videogame"? If one(!) planetary zone is indeed already as large as Skyrim, that's pretty massive. Even with the horses, I never once walked across the entire map of Skyrim. There's fast travel for a reason
Considering the size of the zones (and therefor also the planets), I seriously hope they have some ground vehicles in development for a later patch or DLC
No idea where the issue is. Outside of a few hardcore nerds: Who seriously considers just walking gods know how many hours to "circumvent a planet on foot in a videogame"? If one(!) planetary zone is indeed already as large as Skyrim, that's pretty massive. Even with the horses, I never once walked across the entire map of Skyrim. There's fast travel for a reason
Considering the size of the zones (and therefor also the planets), I seriously hope they have some ground vehicles in development for a later patch or DLC
We're on Elite forum - which is full of nerds that may value the "exploration" part
Some probably being desperate to find in SF the Elite killer, doing everything that ED does, but better.
Not the case - SF is not Elite and is not an ED replacement.
It's just another Bethesda game, arguably one much larger in scope than the previous Bethesda RPGs
You'll find all this out if you can mod entire planets as teased by Pete Hines.
No idea if you ever played Skyrim, but if that's the map size of a single zone, than there's already more to explore in that single tile than in an entire star system in ED. I'm talking quality and quantity of POIs.
That being said, FDev doesn't need SF to kill Elite. They are doing a pretty stellar job on their own. I used to be an explorer in Elite. Most of my 2100 hours were spent outside the bubble. But since FDev decided to turn Elite into yet another Alien shooter and essentially abandoned all other ingame "professions", I found myself caring less and less for ED. SF might indeed be my personal "ED replacement" (although one could debate if it's really "replacing" when I haven't even logged into Elite since January) . It's a shame, since ED had a lot of potential as a multiplayer game (private group with friends for coop) and Starfield does not have any multiplayer or coop features.
ED is very grindy with a high learning curve, but it's also a solid space sim. The only critical thing missing imo is sufficient POI to discover on planets, and story driven quests (10-20 hours) for people who like that. It's a pitty Fdev doesn't bother to add a story campaign. Imagine visiting the capital cities of the factions (Empire, Federation, Alliance), meet powerplay characters and do missions. I would pay extra for that.
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I think it was said you can make whole new planets, right? Should give you a bit of control over seeds and properties, and maybe even terrain-painting the planet-scale map level... I was imagining if creators of new locations become inclined to make their own planets to plop them down onto, or add them to the pool of radiant-placeable ones, instead of choosing a fixed place, maybe we'll see fewer mod conflicts than otherwise... at least until we've got five planets mimicking a venn diagram somewhere... :9
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I expected as much and didn't even think the zones being as big as four times the map of Skyrim.
Starfield is not a space sim but a space rpg, I bet there will be more random things to do in one zone then on a whole planet in ED.
It has already been said that random events can occur almost everywhere, a dead moon might suddenly not be so tranquil when a pirate vessel drops down on you.
I don't mind the zones at all, it's not like I was planning to walk for fourty minutes.
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