Deep Disappointment and Disillusionment - A Console Player's Farewell to Elite Dangerous

Quaero

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Quaero
Quaero said:
It seems like even the single repetitive CG has dried up too. I keep checking but I haven't seen it in weeks.
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This came back for a bit. I enjoy the reason to fight goods but, I'd really like burning station evacs and trade/resource collection And bounty hunting CGs.

It's too bad there isn't something potentially easy to do that puts all the CGs of pre-odyssey, split into a Playlist that just starts at the first one and plays them in order on rotation. The next chronological CG would start automatically the week following a completed CG, at the server tic.

I feel like there was a lot of story played out in those that is otherwise lost forever to all the new players that have joined since its been free on game pass and ps+ premium
 

karamu

karamu
Quaero said:
This came back for a bit. I enjoy the reason to fight goods but, I'd really like burning station evacs and trade/resource collection And bounty hunting CGs.

It's too bad there isn't something potentially easy to do that puts all the CGs of pre-odyssey, split into a Playlist that just starts at the first one and plays them in order on rotation. The next chronological CG would start automatically the week following a completed CG, at the server tic.

I feel like there was a lot of story played out in those that is otherwise lost forever to all the new players that have joined since its been free on game pass and ps+ premium
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I don't log on every Thursday by any means but whenever I have done in the recent past there have been "defeat the Thargoid fleet" type generic GCs running. They tend to complete pretty quickly it seems though.

I completely agree RE rerunning old CGs - I can't see why that can't happen. Some of my best gear came from CG rewards and newer players don't have that kind of opportunity which is a huge shame. The pre engineered modules for example.
 

Quaero

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Quaero
karamu said:
I don't log on every Thursday by any means but whenever I have done in the recent past there have been "defeat the Thargoid fleet" type generic GCs running. They tend to complete pretty quickly it seems though.

I completely agree RE rerunning old CGs - I can't see why that can't happen. Some of my best gear came from CG rewards and newer players don't have that kind of opportunity which is a huge shame. The pre engineered modules for example.
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Gear that newer players can't now never aquire. How many pre engineered fsds? How many we could add engineering to? No new player will have an 80+ ly jumpsuit.
 

karamu

karamu
Quaero said:
Gear that newer players can't now never aquire. How many pre engineered fsds? How many we could add engineering to? No new player will have an 80+ ly jumpsuit.
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Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs. Especially since it's been added to PS+ Extra fairly recently so will be getting some new players. Think it's on Xbox Game Pass too? I know it's essentially in maintenance mode now but they could improve it a fair amount with just a little bit of effort. Engaged players are more likely to buy Arx after all...
 

Quaero

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Quaero
I have stacks on stacks of arx sitting around but the stuff in the store has been the same every time I've checked the last month or so. I keep looking through fleet carrier paints, nothing new there.

Do they only make suit cosmetics now? Do they still make those? I don't actually know as I'm not on oddy or PC lol
 

karamu

karamu
Quaero said:
I have stacks on stacks of arx sitting around but the stuff in the store has been the same every time I've checked the last month or so. I keep looking through fleet carrier paints, nothing new there.

Do they only make suit cosmetics now? Do they still make those? I don't actually know as I'm not on oddy or PC lol
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I'm not sure, that's a good question. There was something new not too long ago, a ship kit or something I think??? But, yeah, that's right enough, it's basically the same as it's been forever. I have a few ships I could buy kits for I guess but I'm nowhere near active enough to earn the weekly Arx and I've spent the ones I did have.
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
They haven't made any new Carrier cosmetics in ages. I suspect that means they weren't moving a lot of them.

There have been new ship kits, ship skins and suit skins.

The thing I find weird about the new store is it doesn't have a show newest feature; that was how I used to have the old store set to so I could instantly see the new stuff. Now I have to hunt through (sometimes) pages of stuff just to see if I missed anything. They really like to make us work to give them money. 🤷‍♂️
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
tanner1ie said:
Indeed it's very unfair and in a business sense, very strange, how Frontier have abandoned console development
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It's indeed quite an odd decision from a pure business point of view.

Just imagine if ED had been a launch title for the PSVR2. If I remember correctly, when the headset launched there was, like, less than 20 games available for it on day 1. Just imagine of ED had been one of them. Just imagine how many sales from that fact alone, and for the foreseeable future, as people buy more and more PSVR2's. It would have been a HUGE revenue source.

But no. Now they missed their golden opportunity and it's unlikely they'll get it back. (Sure, they could add PSVR2 support today and probably sell a pretty good amount, but I would imagine it would be just a small fraction of what it could have been.)
 

Northpin

Northpin
DjVortex said:
Just imagine if ED had been a launch title for the PSVR2. If I remember correctly, when the headset launched there was, like, less than 20 games available for it on day 1. Just imagine of ED had been one of them. Just imagine how many sales from that fact alone, and for the foreseeable future, as people buy more and more PSVR2's. It would have been a HUGE revenue source.
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Imagine us having this discussion at Lavecon happening on a terraformed Mars - it's a nice fantasy, but it's still a fantasy
Just like the paragraph i quoted from your post

There is no way PS5/PSVR2 is able to run Odyssey in VR
I have my doubts PS5 is able to run Odyssey in 4k at 60fps stable - - it's just an old low power amd cpu with a low powered amd gpu, 5 years old already


Not the least, if Ubisoft failed on the VR market with a mainstream title like Assassins Creed, you think a niche game like ED will succeed on PS5 - where it had the lowers playerbase out of all platforms?
 

tanner1ie

tanner1ie
DjVortex said:
What are you even talking about? The PS5 was published 3 years ago.
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Indeed and we've barely seen what it and the Series X can do!

While both systems are very powerful and since consoles are fully optimised for gaming, being able to dedicate their entire being into running games well, versus PCs that are "just" sometimes powerful machines that "can" play games well, that or far from optimised for them, when they're built in thousands of configurations, with countless power levels...

Consoles then by their more focused nature can't be equally compared to gaming PCs, but as much as people try to compare them on paper to supposedly similar PCs, consoles always run the same games better!

While even IF the still barely tapped into new Playstation and Xbox weren't powerful enough to run the new full version of Elite (which they definitely are, while the PS4 and Xbox One weren't far off, as Frontier initially targeted and "tried" to do, but "apparently" they weren't good enough!) - we still didn't get the inevitable Pro versions of the systems that would run the game even better!

But all in, the next gen consoles are still pretty new, plenty powerful and barely "revved up" yet! 😯😂😀🤘 .
 

bangermsuk

bangermsuk
i blame poor sales that killed consoles version of ED it was pretty poor sales on the pc market at first that spiked but i never saw the console spike at all. All the best of what you decided what to do next,

i still have the old xbox orginal and ps 3 , but it never get used much these days.has it doesn;t seem worth setting them up anymore.unless you like old Demos of games from the past.
 
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amigacooke

amigacooke

thistle

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tanner1ie said:
Consoles then by their more focused nature can't be equally compared to gaming PCs, but as much as people try to compare them on paper to supposedly similar PCs, consoles always run the same games better!
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Each console is a single configuration, so developers don't have to try and optimise for different hardware (for that console). So consoles CAN run games "better" in that sense, depending on how well they do the optimisation.

But someone would still need to take the existing pc EDO code and convert the game for the two consoles, optimise them, and see how well they work.

But they aren't doing that, so 🤷‍♂️
 

Quaero

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Quaero
thistle said:
Each console is a single configuration, so developers don't have to try and optimise for different hardware (for that console). So consoles CAN run games "better" in that sense, depending on how well they do the optimisation.

But someone would still need to take the existing pc EDO code and convert the game for the two consoles, optimise them, and see how well they work.

But they aren't doing that, so 🤷‍♂️
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I promise there are those capable and willing who would do it for free
 

Ronzer

Ronzer
Im disappointed there isn't an easy way to claim another CMDR's stuffs but more importantly, after so many months...I'm the first to ask "can I have your stuffs?" What has become of this community?
On a brighter note, see you when you return!
 

Quaero

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Quaero
metatheurgist said:
I promise there is no way in hell Frontier is releasing their engine code to the public.
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Yea, I'm fully aware. It's a shame though other, significantly more successful, companies have proven letting the community dabble and do your job for you, free of charge is a viable method of making a game keep growing.

Look at what 5M did all those years for gta or modders for Bethesda games
 
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