I don't recall any kind of interstellar law or signed treaty or whatever that could grant or recognize that right.
If they are actually extra-galactic and there is no shortage of space, then laying claim to a territory that's basically our backyard is anything but reasonable.
I think at this point it's just a difference of opinion. Who put us in charge of granting rights to other species? Why is it their or anyone's fault that we popped up vaguely close (384LY, still outside the range of our natural bubble expansion even today) to the Pleiades? If our own actions are beyond criticism due to the lack of a treaty or whatever, then that would go both ways to put the Thargoids also beyond criticism.I don't recall any kind of interstellar law or signed treaty or whatever that could grant or recognize that right.
("Donkey, you HAVE the right to remain silent. What you lack, is the capacity.")
If they are actually extra-galactic and there is no shortage of space, then laying claim to a territory that's basically our backyard is anything but reasonable.
I wonder what would they say about our right to claim a territory close to their homeworld.
Who put them in charge of deciding who can lay claim to which territory?
If we are talking about an extra-galactic species who came from millions of Lys away, then 384 Ly is not "vaguely close", it's a rounding error. Not to mention that they are even closer than that at the moment. Even after the destruction of one of their motherships, they still have 7 more Titans operating in human populated space. Maybe it's not the best time for "poor Thargoids have the right to occupy our territories" kind of speculation.
No, no, you can't compare wars between humans to war with thargoids! Human vs human conflicts are really just friendly, neighbourly banter and practical jokes! It's totally different with thargoids, see, they are... are chitinous, and breath ammonia, and not like humans, they're alien, see—filthy xenos! This gives us the right to purge them, it's our God-Emperor given Holy Duty, you see!
I'd say that was a gross over-exaggeration...
Prior usage, they were using that territory before our species evolved.I don't recall any kind of interstellar law or signed treaty or whatever that could grant or recognize that right.
("Donkey, you HAVE the right to remain silent. What you lack, is the capacity.")
If they are actually extra-galactic and there is no shortage of space, then laying claim to a territory that's basically our backyard is anything but reasonable.
I wonder what would they say about our right to claim a territory close to their homeworld.
And we’re still treating it like it is an extreme existential threat that was ravaging its way through the Bubble, instead of just sticking to the core areas with an unknown, possibly unknowable (at the moment), purpose. Beyond what we were told by Seo about their intent to take territory and capture humans.
That's just quantitative, not qualitative difference. It's not a very fast or particularly effective attempt of extermination, but still a nice try.
Totally agree, a couple dozens of systems destroyed, a couple million inhabitants killed, nothing important.
PF members are killing more humans, overall, for profit... So a few million lost to Thargoids is barely scratching the surface, is it? (and one must assume that the wars in systems are killing humans too, and there is always war: War never changes..)
I suppose it could be extermination if it went on for another 1,000 years or so...It's not a very fast or particularly effective attempt of extermination, but still a nice try.
(providing it made a profit, or provided engineering materials, naturally)That's just quantitative, not qualitative difference. It's not a very fast or particularly effective attempt of extermination, but still a nice try.
Totally agree, a couple dozens of systems destroyed, a couple million inhabitants killed, nothing important.
There's already a game loop that involves interacting with Thargoids without killing them, with guides to build successful ships, with increasingly difficult levels.
Okay, well, I think this is definitely a difference of opinion then. I don't think there's an argument that could be made when the two arguments are "which side is morally correct" and "morals aren't real". It's certainly a practical viewpoint but not what I'm arguing.Who put them in charge of deciding who can lay claim to which territory?
I never said anyone put us in charge of anything. What I said was, that kind of right did not even exist. Whoever is capable of enforcing their claims with superior military strength will be in the position of ideologizing the moral aspects afterwards.
If we are talking about an extra-galactic species who came from millions of Lys away, then 384 Ly is not "vaguely close", it's a rounding error. Not to mention that they are even closer than that at the moment. Even after the destruction of one of their motherships, they still have 7 more Titans operating in human populated space. Maybe it's not the best time for "poor Thargoids have the right to occupy our territories" kind of speculation.
They don't seem to be very concerned about our rights either. They are busy trying to exterminate us.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
Can't be certain because Humans weren't around several million years ago when Thargoids started using this region of space.
You are just making things up. Name a single system that was destroyed by PF members.
You seem to be very wise in the ways of Thargoid-centric thought process.
Yeah, somewhere else (very close to the Bubble) where the Thargoids also just travelled to, and they were not defending their homeworld either.
It's not saying 'morals aren't real', it's more like saying that only those who survive the conflict will have the luxury to think about morals. The side that goes extinct will not.
And why would they care about us until recently?
