What if we got something to do with the Thargoids that wasn't just killing them?
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Of course we could just stay clear of their meta alloys and there would probably be no resources to compete for.OK, not gonna bother to look up Galnet articles, but here's what the very canon Codex has to say about them:
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Apparently we are not going to have long conversations about tantric Buddhism or classical Greek love poetry with them.
They are a threat to us, we are a threat to them, armed conflict has always been inevitable (and actually it's already going on, with them playing the role of aggressor).
Kill 'em all, so that we can finally forget them.
But that would make a poor game with less pew pew.
I'm still wondering what their purpose in coming here is. According to Frontier they had a specific purpose in establishing the Titans. To colonize nearby ammonia planets in order to contest the entire region, to hunt down the potential Salvation AI, something else?
Well they obviously turned up in response to the Proteus Wave. Though beyond that is generally rather subjective.
As for assisting the 'Goids. There were gankers at Taranis, until the 'Goids caught up with them and they got treated the same as other humans.
As for assisting the 'Goids. There were gankers at Taranis, until the 'Goids caught up with them and they got treated the same as other humans.
That's not what the Codex entry I quoted seems to imply.
They are determined to eliminate any threats to their long-term survival. Sounds pretty reasonable tbh, we should follow the same strategy.
Personally I'd like to see them either go extinct or retreat to a galaxy far far away (I have never been a big friend of the 'human weapons cannot damage them' mechanics, and the cold running meta gets boring after a while IMO), that would be the best possible outcome for the game because that way fdev could focus their resources on something better than Thargoids.
But ofc there's a possibility that the Bubble Titans having been defeated, they will retreat to their homeworld which will turn out to be the now permit-locked COL something something sector, and once fdev have removed the permit lock, we could turn this defensive war to into a counter-offensive one, where AX CMDRs could continue to beat the caustic goo out of Thargoids. This would be a less ideal situation as it would still require some developer resources, but at least the number of forum posts lamenting over the lack of human morality would have some comedic value.
Maybe if they're cornered, they'll think of communicating. But I wouldn't gamble on it.
That's a very good point. If the Goids are gonna like anyone, it's the people fighting for them. And their way of saying thanks is to kill them too. So much for peace talks, they can't even make peace with pilots actively trying to prevent the destruction of their capital ships! As far as I'm concerned, that's proof enough they'd rather kill us than coexist. They can't even coexist with their allies.
Including ships defending the Titans, as in the above example? That's not a solid survival strategy.
By 'ships defending the Titans' you mean the pro-Thargoid CMDRs aka gankers who attack AX CMDRs?
And that Thargoids also shoot at these people as well?
That just shows that the Codex overestimates the intelligence of Thargoids.
Tbh Thargoids as they are implemented ingame never looked like a hyper-intelligent species. They are pretty dumb, actually. Just look at how easily they fall for a cheap trick like dropping a heatsink.
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I think that's down to the developers not wanting to make the game too hard as they get loads of complaints ?By 'ships defending the Titans' you mean the pro-Thargoid CMDRs aka gankers who attack AX CMDRs?
And that Thargoids also shoot at these people as well?
That just shows that the Codex overestimates the intelligence of Thargoids.
Tbh Thargoids as they are implemented ingame never looked like a hyper-intelligent species. They are pretty dumb, actually. Just look at how easily they fall for a cheap trick like dropping a heatsink.
I mean, going to their refuelling sites they tend to not attack, so idk man. XD
Worth noting is that the Codex is probably also Pilot’s Federation curated and they can stick whichever information they like into it. Or keep the bits which they don’t like out of it.
I’m sure it greatly benefits the people in charge - and their puppet masters of the Club in the shadows - to keep portraying the Thargoids as a warmongering species that doesn’t know what peace means, and will only accept very limited coexistence if you leave everything they have alone completely, to the point of not even being near it and not touching it.
(But they will not bother to shoot you if there happens to be a piece of Thargoid technology in the same place as a human ship, as long as it’s not inside of the latter or dropped. Likewise for SRVs - don’t know about ships - near barnacles. They won’t care about a vehicle moving around down by one.)
The Thargoids' killing of commanders actively helping them in battle proves to me that the Thargoids as a warmongering species is correct, at least.
Yes and no. In actively invaded territory you can’t really expect them to differentiate, especially not around a Titan which is basically like a (military) fleet carrier equivalent where if you strayed too close without permission, you’d get blown out of the sky (or into the void, in this case).
I’ve seen direct video evidence of a controlled test with a ‘neutral’ Interceptor where one player attacked a Basilisk and the other did not, instead attacking the human ship. When the attacker of the Basilisk went down, it returned to minding its own business and did not attack the non-aggressive player.
Just need to go back a few months to look at the reaction to thargoids gaining any territory at all initially and that we'd not turned the tide within a couple of days. I feel like the thargoids that FDev want to do are very different beasts to the ones that they've given us.
I've often speculated that we're going to their mating grounds and stealing their embryos (meta alloys)..
Look at the outcry of a few against the introduction of glaives..
Before, as far as I remember. Let me see if I can find it, but the nebula Thargoids oddly did not change their behavior, with the odd exception of Witch Head where they got annoyed at some of the local humans for a while and then… it suddenly stopped again. Never got an explanation for that (and I saw Rainbro get annoyed at it earlier… maybe in this thread too?).
Edit - actually, seems like this recording was… at least published after the Titans arrived in the Bubble.
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The description notes: "This changes when you are near the Invasion Zone, HIP 22460, or the Kingfisher. You can thank Azimuth Biotech for that....". So at least now Thargoids will attack PXs.
If meta alloys are actually their embryos, then Thargoids are even dumber than they look.I've often speculated that we're going to their mating grounds and stealing their embryos (meta alloys)..
Who are they, for Darwin's sake, some amphibians or reptiles? What kind of unevolved species leave their precious offsprings unattended all around the galaxy?
That's so paleozoic, lmao.