If you swap out one of the ducks and one of the pheasants (keeping the theme of common zoo birds, let's go with the grey crowned crane and the helmeted guineafowl) this would actually be a perfect pack for me.
DLC18 discussion and predictions
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As long as we get highly requested animals in the next pack, I'm good. South American themed? Sure!
SA animal pack;
-Mountain tapir
-Chilean flamingo
-Smooth-fronted caiman
-White-lipped peccary
-Guanaco
-Six-banded armadillo
-Darwin rhea
-Mimic poison dart frog(E)
Yes these are highly requested animals, I've done my research. Source; Frontier.
SA animal pack;
-Mountain tapir
-Chilean flamingo
-Smooth-fronted caiman
-White-lipped peccary
-Guanaco
-Six-banded armadillo
-Darwin rhea
-Mimic poison dart frog(E)
Yes these are highly requested animals, I've done my research. Source; Frontier.
You have access to Frontier’s data?
Everyone does.
Just type: List of mammals of South America and go into ungulate section.
what does this even mean where is this data from I dont remember frontier doing a survey.
Sorry guys but I can’t imagine SA pack without any wild camelid. Neither alpaca nor llama is a good substitute.
It’s like having a goat but no ibex.
So I hope that addition of alpaca doesn’t cross out guanaco or vicuña.
Plus there are still a huge group of game players who want more ungulates whether you like it or not.
I like all groups of animals but we also need to be aware that ungulates are the most common animals in all zoos and are clearly easier to make for Frontier. So we can expect more of them.
People shocked that barnyard pack contains mostly ungulates can’t be serious. Coz it sounds more like mocking joke to me.
It’s like having a goat but no ibex.
So I hope that addition of alpaca doesn’t cross out guanaco or vicuña.
Plus there are still a huge group of game players who want more ungulates whether you like it or not.
I like all groups of animals but we also need to be aware that ungulates are the most common animals in all zoos and are clearly easier to make for Frontier. So we can expect more of them.
People shocked that barnyard pack contains mostly ungulates can’t be serious. Coz it sounds more like mocking joke to me.
Prove it.
Doran I really respect you. Please stop being ridiculous.
There's a fantastic website called zootierliste, you should check it out
I think the Barnyard Animal Pack is a case where a high ungulate count is actually appropriate, but it's dampened by the fact that the last two animal packs also had a ton of ungulates. It's just gotten to the point where the oversaturation of ungulates is worse than it ever got with carnivorans - over the past 4 DLCs we've gotten 15 ungulates and 13 non-ungulates (10 non-ungulates when talking about just habitat species), and that's not even including the peccary. I just don't know what justification there is for a single group making up over half of all additions, especially when so many other groups are lacking. Ungulates are important in zoos, sure, but they're not half of all species in zoos.
I'm not "done with ungulates", there's still some I'd like to see, such as the aoudad, blackbuck and some Asian deer (both a muntjac and a larger tropical deer species). But dear god, I hope they space them out more in the future.
I'm not "done with ungulates", there's still some I'd like to see, such as the aoudad, blackbuck and some Asian deer (both a muntjac and a larger tropical deer species). But dear god, I hope they space them out more in the future.
Unfortunately it doesnt have necessary option for us to check out how common is said group in zoos
.I actually agree on a wild camelid for an animal pack.
Lets face it, 2 is the minimum number of ungulates to expect and if those 2 go to the southern pudu and a wild camelid id be honestly rather glad.
Frontiers SA animal pack will be vastly different from what the community actually wants, but atleast to me a roster of Pudu, Camelid, Rhea, Mara, Coati, Monkey and best case a second bird like southern screamer, red legged serima, scarlet ibis or roseate spoonbill or in the more realistic case spec bear or ocelot would be a perfectly fine and Serviceable pack that feels quite realistic.
Is it a bit boring? Yes but that doesnt have to be a bad thing
Sure id also love a vast array of monkeys and birds to really play into SAs strong suits, but when looking at SA rep in game the thing that lacks just as much is basic spacefiller and rhea, mara, camelids and coatis are great to provide that and just fluff every SA area up in size, while pudu, monkey and potentially a second bird would give a little bit more special animals to play with, and if we should get the spectacle bear or ocelot wed have either a center piece for both SA but especally anden areas or a good allrounder filler animal.
Not the most exciting pack but defenetly a good basis for the long run
Joking about ungulates will always be funny and such, but by far most realistic scenario features only 1 ungulate in form of deer and 4 carnivorans: ocelot, bear, coati, bush dog. Boring and predictable, but PZ packs are like this.
I dont like that your right sadly you are
Regarding the "possible" summer DLC, my attitude is this:
1. Due to the fundamental flaws of PZ, I hope that PZ2, which makes up for these flaws, will come soon.
2. It would be unacceptable to end PZ with the current farm DLC.
1. Due to the fundamental flaws of PZ, I hope that PZ2, which makes up for these flaws, will come soon.
2. It would be unacceptable to end PZ with the current farm DLC.
I can accept this combination, but I have my reasons, the spectacled bear is the animal I want, and coati can be used as a base model to make a yellow-throated marten. That's my why
if we have only 2 packs left(already optimistic) i would just do old and new world animal pack with most wanted picks and this most of the world would be covered, for old world u could maybe replace some picks with for example hamadryas, marabu, gelada, gerenuk( i really want them), dik dik, some asian deer or guineafowl, same with new world guanaco, howler monkey etc.
I dont care how common ungulates are in zoos having half of every pack being ungulates is just ridiculous at least 1 per pack sure up to 3 for an animal but having 4/7 animals being ungulates in multiple animal packs in a row is the problem. As someone pointed out across the last year we have gotten more ungulates then every other animal. This just should not be the case your telling me that combined all the birds, insects, reptiles, amphibians, carnivorans and every other possible animal make up less then 50% of a zoos roster. We got more ungulates in the last 4 dlc then we had total across all the dlc prior to that ungulates existing is not the problem its the sheer volume of them.
It isnt even like they are trying to make up for a lack of ungulates the base game had loads and we have been averaging at least 1 per dlc since the first one dropped.
A barnyard pack is one of the few themes that its perfectly acceptable to be mostly ungulates since that is what most domestic animals are, though a rabbit or duck would of been just as good as any ungulate representing the theme and I feel the donkey should of been a rabbit instead. The only problem was this pack came straight after an ungulate heavy pack and an ungulate heavy year. Had this come out this time last year people would not be complaining nearly as much.
Also respectfully where are you getting ungulates are the most common zoo animal They are definitely the most common mammal but based on numbers I would think birds out number ungulates in zoos. Even looking at zoo tier list a bird is number 1 and there is an equal number of birds and ungulates in the top 20.