Have Faith. This game will get made. It will get released to the public. It will do better and any of the previous iterations. It will be awesome. They will make a follow up. It will also succeed. How do I know this for certain? Faith. That's it. Nothing of great importance was ever accomplished by bleating sheep (making a game just like all the others) who just wanted to play it safe. Risk everything to bring your vision into reality. Do not worry about the naysayers, they will be blown away by the wind of the stampede of people glamouring to get their hands on this game.
ED Server / Servers Down problems discussion thread
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10 years mby.
At that point you should be able to switch over and join the launch party for SC, so its a kind of irrelevant question.
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Meridian 59 still has servers online. And even most defunct MMOs have private servers up and running, or at least those that attracted any appreciable fan base. I have no doubt ED's servers will be up for a very long time.
In this day and age there is NO company anymore that I would trust to last longer than 10 years.
Will many last for 10 years?
Of course.
Can I be sure of that? Can I trust them to?
Absolutely not!
It's not like I have no trust in FD in particular.
I don't have that trust in any company in general.
I remember when I still had trust that Amiga would survive.
how naive I was.
not expressing our wish for an eventually stand alone version or possible own server version is rather daft.
like acting there's no problem , ostrich politics.
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at the same time I think they already got the message at FD.
I wonder if the code if they are ever going to release it is usable.
cos that's something that's has not been stated.
how naive I was.
not expressing our wish for an eventually stand alone version or possible own server version is rather daft.
like acting there's no problem , ostrich politics.
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at the same time I think they already got the message at FD.
I wonder if the code if they are ever going to release it is usable.
cos that's something that's has not been stated.
Piracy killed the Amiga. No one purchased the games. Dev houses stopped making them. They all moved to PC and their CD roms, which were a lot harder to copy than floppies. It is the one big reason I never pirate anything. If I want it I buy it. If I want to know what it's like I try the demo.
I don't want to get into this area of the argument as it has been covered in The Threadnought, but I donated based on there being an offline mode and therefore my £750 would be enough to cover playing ED when I retire, which frankly is probably the only time I'll have to play it properly anyway
No, piracy did not kill the Amiga. The Amiga fell far behind as a hardware platform (even by 1992-1993, the easily expandable PC could be fitted out to have better graphics and sound capabilities) and Commodore was grossly mismanaged. The Amiga had access to CD-ROMs also.
I had an Amiga CDTV and it had a CDROM. My first PC had no CDROM and I still played plenty of games through floppy discs, I still remember Tie Fighter and Doom 2 coming on 6 HD of them each. Inability to innovate and re-think paired with console ascent most probably killed the Commodore. It was great till it lasted though.
Mostly there is no issue; if the game fail and the server close, you can't do much. This is the downside of MMO. They need a server to run.
The investment made was for the alpha and beta, not for the game itself; so you can't really bring that on the table. That was your choice; like many made a choice to become lifetimer for other MMO, paying a hefty price when the game launched. If they close the server; too bad, but it is part of the game.
If the issue is on the single player; it is legit to expect that Frontier will have some day a fully functional copy that can run independently from the server. Basically a copy that start the game with a big bang, no previous history, fresh as the day of the launch, so you can so basically all on your own, minus the online features.
I won't be surprised if some random soul would actually start to make a mod, reverse engineering the game, to allow it to play offline...they do the same with steam games (yes, they are illegal) . In a way or another, tehre will be a way to play the game offline, if the server will ever be taken down. Altho I still play with need for speed unlimited 2, and the team that made that game was basically dismissed years ago...the server is still up and running today.
Then the logic question would be: if the game will be so bad to force them to take down the server, how many people would be interested in play it, even offline? I don't recall any matrix online player that miss that game
Still too early to talk about this; maybe it is not even an issue, because if the game will be good, people will play it and nobody will close the server; if it will be bad, there will be nobody that wants to play it anyway.
The investment made was for the alpha and beta, not for the game itself; so you can't really bring that on the table. That was your choice; like many made a choice to become lifetimer for other MMO, paying a hefty price when the game launched. If they close the server; too bad, but it is part of the game.
If the issue is on the single player; it is legit to expect that Frontier will have some day a fully functional copy that can run independently from the server. Basically a copy that start the game with a big bang, no previous history, fresh as the day of the launch, so you can so basically all on your own, minus the online features.
I won't be surprised if some random soul would actually start to make a mod, reverse engineering the game, to allow it to play offline...they do the same with steam games (yes, they are illegal) . In a way or another, tehre will be a way to play the game offline, if the server will ever be taken down. Altho I still play with need for speed unlimited 2, and the team that made that game was basically dismissed years ago...the server is still up and running today.
Then the logic question would be: if the game will be so bad to force them to take down the server, how many people would be interested in play it, even offline? I don't recall any matrix online player that miss that game
Still too early to talk about this; maybe it is not even an issue, because if the game will be good, people will play it and nobody will close the server; if it will be bad, there will be nobody that wants to play it anyway.
You *can* bring it to the table if one donated based on there being an offline mode. But again, this is Threadnought territory.
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as the title says everytime i try to login to the game via the launcher, i get the error unexpected response from server : bad request.
i have payed for the beta and everything and been playing before how come it wont work now?
as the title says everytime i try to login to the game via the launcher, i get the error unexpected response from server : bad request.
i have payed for the beta and everything and been playing before how come it wont work now?
I'm guessing you backed the game during Kickstarter but in either case you're not entitled to anything. They could take the game down tomorrow for no reason and you would have absolutely no legal recourse.
Does nobody read the End User License Agreement at all?
"These services and Online Features may not be available in your country, are not guaranteed to be available for any period of time (and may be subject to suspension or withdrawal at any time) and may, for example, be subject to age restrictions."
They can take the servers down tomorrow because "we felt like it" and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it and they're under no obligation to release the server code if and when they do.
You didn't "invest" in anything, you voluntarily gave money to a game developer who stated that they wanted to make a game (backed them, as KS puts it). That is all.
You didn't even technically buy the game, they gave you a copy for free since you helped fund the project.
Cry some more.
Also, read the EULA before clicking "Accept" and we wouldn't have this problem.
If they bought the game or expansion pack they can if they shut down the servers tommorow.
EULA is void with consumer rights, they haven't even delivered a product yet. It's illegal in Australia to even say no refunds and there is something like it in EU, because the law is based on the buyers location, not the sellers.
He also said ED would launch with an offline mode.
The answer to the OP's question is: no one truly knows. It's a gamble, just like every other online only video game ever made by a company that's not Blizzard. The REAL question you need to answer for yourself is:
"Is playing Elite Dangerous worth the chance of losing every penny you spend to do it? "
If that's a yes then don't worry about it for now and enjoy what time you have with the game. If it's worth the monetary risk for you then pass on ED. It all really boils down to that.
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