DLC18 discussion and predictions

Yeah i feel sometimes people forget that there are 20ish countries in NA, not only the us and canada lol 😂
Well for me (how i was taught about it) there are three subcontinents: south, central and north. North it does indeed include Mexico though. I just forgot lol The rest of the countries i always think about as Central America rather than as part of North America... and i'm not sure how the Caribbean islands fit into this.
 
Yeah but at that point what isnt a clone? I mean both of these pairs are entirely unrelated. If taking the base rigs as a base for another animal does count as a clone the devil is a raccoon clone
Yeah fair enough
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damn, I've never had to scroll to find the Summer Speculation thread, usually right at the top 😅

So other than the casual birds, SA, and monkeys, what animals would you want to see in a "collection pack?"
  1. Honestly the only mammal I want at this point is the Peere David’s deer, and honestly the Pallas cat wouldn’t be too bad.
  2. Reptiles, like a freshwater turtle species, new habitat lizard like the tegu, and an African croc
 
I am surprised how much attention the Pallas cat got lately. Never seen it as something that is needed personally. I am probably biased, but still, surprising.
Out of the cats left is the one that needs an official version the most (if the fur texture is done right). Serval and ocelot mods look very good. Serval would benefit of new jumping animations though (and hope that would be added to the caracal as well). Plus Palla's cats have become an internet meme lately so it also has that going for it for Frontier to pick them.
 
Hmm sounds convincing. Then here’s my other question: if we can use animals usually kept indoors as an argument to suggest an aviary bird as a habitat animal then would anyone object if I suggest that birds of prey and parrots be added as habitat animals as well?
I have no objections if handled well almost every animal can be a habitat animal
For me the indicator for exhibit vs habitat when it comes to birds isnt if they can fly or in which way they are kept in real life.
For me the important thing is if they would look believeable as habitat animals, which means without flight.
And admittedly ibises are kinda pushing it in that regard.
But imo they would work perfectly fine as habitat animals if they get some kind of enrichment item to perch on
I think I have seen an ibis fly less then half a dozen times in my life and I see them almost everyday they mostly walk around and only fly when where they need to be is out of walking distance.
Also there is literally nothing stopping them from just making the animals running and jumping animation flying like it is fully possible they just havent done it yet we dont need true flight just a good enough illusion.
The only indicator for me that an animal is impossible within the current system is does the animal ever walk and how often does it willingly land if a bird spends all its life in the air rarely stopping it will look dumb walking but most parrots and some raptors do spend quite a bit of time shuffling around on the ground space that out with a run animation that looks like low flying and it will be fine.
 
I am surprised how much attention the Pallas cat got lately. Never seen it as something that is needed personally. I am probably biased, but still, surprising.
Everyone is biased. That is why a lot of this community views the secretarybird as essential to a zoo (it really isn't).

It's also why my priorities are so simple. I have my own biases for animals I want, and they rarely overlap with, for example, our American or European players (I couldn't care less about the coati but the Americans and Europeans see it as a must-have).
 
Well for me (how i was taught about it) there are three subcontinents: south, central and north. North it does indeed include Mexico though. I just forgot lol The rest of the countries i always think about as Central America rather than as part of North America... and i'm not sure how the Caribbean islands fit into this.
The UN has subregions in roughly that way, North, Central (Including Mexico), South & Caribbean.

Neotropical is a bit more applicable to animals, but with South-east Asia being a UN one, it seems less likely.
 
So other than the casual birds, SA, and monkeys, what animals would you want to see in a "collection pack?"
Aside from those the only inclusion I need to be happy with a final "Zookeeper's Collection" pack would be either the tree roo or echidna, just one of the two. If we get both right at the last minute my soul will leave my body and I'll ascend.

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(the PlanCo dictionary could suggest that both species are coming but I'm not gonna get my hopes up from that alone)
 
So other than the casual birds, SA, and monkeys, what animals would you want to see in a "collection pack?"
Well, all tropical animals I see as essential are, by now, in one of those categories (birds,monkeys,SA).

So by excluding them I would go back to my beloved north, for some less essential (but not less cool) animals like Canadian Porcupine, Alpine Marmot, Sable, Musk Deer, Elk...and on and on.

If I were to pick one, then definitely Sea Otter 🦦
 
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Let's assume 13 animals is the goal to reach 200+. And two of them must be Exhibit animals possibly at least one WTE. These 13/14 animals would be 12 for a Zookeeper's collection DLC and one Anniversary (or even maybe two to compensate for year one not having one).

My picks would be

ZK DLC

  • Coati (SA 1, arboreal carnivore, carnivore 1, cloneish)
  • Mara (SA 2, rodent)
  • Blackbuck (India, ungulate 1, clone)
  • New world monkeys: Howler / GLT / Spider monkey (SA 3, arboreal primate, monkey 1)
  • Hamadryas baboon (África, monkey 2, arid primate)
  • Musk ox (Arctic-NA-Europe, ungulate 2)
  • Great white pelican (Europe-Africa, bird 1, swan based)
  • Goodfellow's tree kangaroo (Oceanía, marsupial)
  • Palla's cat (Asia, carnivore 2, cat clone)
  • Sea otter (NA, carnivore 3, otter clone)
  • Grey crowned crane / Secretary bird (Africa, bird 2, clone-unique rig)
  • WTE: hummingbirds / Tamarins

Anniversary: Ex: king cobra + Greater Rhea (Birds 3, clone)

I don't personally care about the two remaining bears but it would be weird to have all the species minus those two so is possible they are included.
 
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Aside from those the only inclusion I need to be happy with a final "Zookeeper's Collection" pack would be either the tree roo or echidna, just one of the two. If we get both right at the last minute my soul will leave my body and I'll ascend.
100% this. Echidna is my personal priority, but getting both in a send-off would make me the happiest boyo alive. Even more if we get a baboon too.
 
Let's assume 13 animals is the goal to reach 200+. And two of them must be Exhibit animals possibly at least one WTE. These 13/14 animals would be 12 for a Zookeeper's collection DLC and one Anniversary (or even maybe two to compensate for year one not having one).

My picks would be

ZK DLC

  • Coati (SA 1, arboreal carnivore, carnivore 1, cloneish)
  • Mara (SA 2, rodent)
  • Blackbuck (India, ungulate 1, clone)
  • New world monkeys: Howler / GLT / Spider monkey (SA 3, arboreal primate, monkey 1)
  • Hamadryas baboon (África, monkey 2, arid primate)
  • Musk ox (Arctic-NA-Europe, ungulate 2)
  • Great white pelican (Europe-Africa, bird 1, swan based)
  • Goodfellow's tree kangaroo (Oceanía, marsupial)
  • Palla's cat (Asia, carnivore 2, cat clone)
  • Sea otter (NA, carnivore 3, otter clone)
  • Grey crowned crane / Secretary bird (Africa, bird 2, clone-unique rig)
  • WTE: hummingbirds / Tamarins

Anniversary: Ex: king cobra + Greater Rhea (Birds 3, clone)

I don't personally care about the two remaining bears but it would be weird to have all the species minus those two so is possible they are included.
Actually a really solid lineup, would even pay twice as much as usual for such a pack.

Except the hummingbirds. I've read this here quite often. Why are so many thinking we a) would realistically get hummingbirds and b) in a WTE? They are quite sensitive and not really made for walkthrough exhibits in my opinion. Yes, from a game mechanic point hummingbirds would only make sense in a WTE. Still I'm not a fan of this idea.
Tamarins in a WTE would be cool though. I could also imagine a South American bat like the Seba's short-tailed bat as the WTE animal. It would be our third bat, so probably not the favourite of everyone but since the other two bats are fruit bats and not from South America, they would still bring sth different to the game in my opinion.
The two-toed sloth would be another South American option for the WTE (but probably even more controversial than a third bat).
 
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Let's assume 13 animals is the goal to reach 200+. And two of them must be Exhibit animals possibly at least one WTE. These 13/14 animals would be 12 for a Zookeeper's collection DLC and one Anniversary (or even maybe two to compensate for year one not having one).

My picks would be

ZK DLC

  • Coati (SA 1, arboreal carnivore, carnivore 1, cloneish)
  • Mara (SA 2, rodent)
  • Blackbuck (India, ungulate 1, clone)
  • New world monkeys: Howler / GLT / Spider monkey (SA 3, arboreal primate, monkey 1)
  • Hamadryas baboon (África, monkey 2, arid primate)
  • Musk ox (Arctic-NA-Europe, ungulate 2)
  • Great white pelican (Europe-Africa, bird 1, swan based)
  • Goodfellow's tree kangaroo (Oceanía, marsupial)
  • Palla's cat (Asia, carnivore 2, cat clone)
  • Sea otter (NA, carnivore 3, otter clone)
  • Grey crowned crane / Secretary bird (Africa, bird 2, clone-unique rig)
  • WTE: hummingbirds / Tamarins

Anniversary: Ex: king cobra + Greater Rhea (Birds 3, clone)

I don't personally care about the two remaining bears but it would be weird to have all the species minus those two so is possible they are included.

Coatimundi species
Spectacled Bear
Black Howler Monkey
Hamadryas Baboon
Muskox
Secretary Bird
Duck species
Pelican species
Greater Rhea
Wild Turkey
King Cobra (E)
Two Toed Sloth species (WTE)

Anniversary animal: American Black Bear.
Alternate second anniversary animal to get to "over 200" (201): American Flamingo

I want more than one New World Primate but I'm skeptical. I don't really care about a couple of these but basing it not on my own wants, but what I see may be possible. And I'm sticking to the thought that we will NOT be getting both a Coati and Tree Kangaroo in the same pack. If it's broken up into two packs though I can see them both making it in.
 
Actually a really solid lineup, would even pay twice as much as usual for such a pack.

Except the hummingbirds. I've read this here quite often. Why are so many thinking we a) would realistically get hummingbirds and b) in a WTE? They are quite sensitive and not really made for walkthrough exhibits in my opinion. Yes, from a game mechanic point hummingbirds would only make sense in a WTE. Still I'm not a fan of this idea.
Tamarins in a WTE would be cool so. I could also imagine a South American bat like the Seba's short-tailed bat as the WTE animal. It would be our third bat, so probably not the favourite of everyone but since the other two bats are fruit bats and not from South America, they would still bring sth different to the game in my opinion.
The two-toed sloth would be another South American option for the WTE (but probably even more controversial than a third bat).
I just really want hummingbirds 😂

I didn't think they are out of the question but is not realistic to expect them. Just wishful thinking. I would love tamarins and marmosets as well. Another sloth is the most realistic option of the three but would be very boring to me he i'm perfectly fine with the three toed just need a re-do of the climbing structures because they are too big and hard to hide.
 
Why tho? The coati can be done using a modified raccoon rig whilst the tree roo can borrow a lot from the quokka, neither would be a gargantuan task to make.
Tbh none of the animals i listed required porcupine levels of work. Most if not all could be made based on already existing rigs. Mara and secretary bird seem to be the most unique ones.
 
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