Well, look what I ran into :D
 

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If they played this smart the darkwheel and raxxle should still be hidden from this type of system if not Im going to be very frustraited with them just giving up on a legit grand search that makes exploring interesting.

I strongly suspect that Raxxla system is NOT on galmap - you have to navigate to it via navpanel. Particularly after making the trip to Barnard's Loop, I am nearly certain that this is the case. I'm pretty sure it's safe from colonization simply because of that.
 
I strongly suspect that Raxxla system is NOT on galmap - you have to navigate to it via navpanel. Particularly after making the trip to Barnard's Loop, I am nearly certain that this is the case. I'm pretty sure it's safe from colonization simply because of that.
I hope so. I wonder if it becomes a target after causing a gravity wake around a certain star.
 
I hope so. I wonder if it becomes a target after causing a gravity wake around a certain star.

Try it. Why not.

Separately, a little update on my quest deciphering the Brookes Memorial beacons.

I went back to Beta Sculptoris, and there is only one fancy thing about that system (besides it having all sorts of awkward body arrangements) - the neutron star there is somewhat unique in terms of what it sounds like - it's not the sound from the top of the galaxy, but it has its own special sound. It's a very fast rotation neutron star so I'll have to find a similar one to see if this is truly unique or just happens to be a feature of those very fast ones - so that will be on my "to do" list now.

Other than that, I have not really found anything standing out in that system other than it's just a really weird map.

Artemis - I made there as well. This is even more featureless system overall. Other than being in the bubble, the one thing that kind of stands out is that there is hypothetically an asteroid belt simply named "THE BELT" (very funny, FD). However, that belt is not really in the system. There is precisely one asteroid there and it's the asteroid station in the system. Targeting "THE BELT" in the system map targets the asteroid station. ???

Other than this, Artemis is not particularly interesting.

So now, I'm on the way to the "stairs" of NGC 7822. (stairs, stars - also very funny, FD...)

I stopped at Algol (hence the pictures above) since it's basically on the way and it's the first Gorgon.
 
I strongly suspect that Raxxla system is NOT on galmap - you have to navigate to it via navpanel.
This got me thinking ... ( see below )
I hope so. I wonder if it becomes a target after causing a gravity wake around a certain star.
... So a couple days ago and also tonite , whilst doing some BH'ing in an asteroid-field 'RES'( hazardous ) , i started getting that blue "Mission Objective Detected" ( accompanied by voiceover queue ) in upper right Info panel , even though i didn't have ANY missions currently active. - re: see this old thread for reference... https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mission-objective-detected.391708/

I've gotten this type of spontaneous mission message before, over past year at random times & situations, but never thought much of it because a) i first thought it was a BUG ...and b) a couple times i just was so involved in combat at that moment i sorta forgot to check Nav-panel for who/how to activate the mission.

But anyways, it got me thinking: What if finding RAXXLA works this way too? From a code/queue perspective i mean. As in, once certain parameters are met, the server detects the pilot and then & only then reveals part of the mystery ( prompting further pursuit or exploration therein ) .
Could potentially be why, after 10+ years, no one has made the ultimate discovery. Since it's very easy to miss---or just ignore---such a message.
 
This got me thinking ... ( see below )

... So a couple days ago and also tonite , whilst doing some BH'ing in an asteroid-field 'RES'( hazardous ) , i started getting that blue "Mission Objective Detected" ( accompanied by voiceover queue ) in upper right Info panel , even though i didn't have ANY missions currently active. - re: see this old thread for reference... https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mission-objective-detected.391708/

I've gotten this type of spontaneous mission message before, over past year at random times & situations, but never thought much of it because a) i first thought it was a BUG ...and b) a couple times i just was so involved in combat at that moment i sorta forgot to check Nav-panel for who/how to activate the mission.

But anyways, it got me thinking: What if finding RAXXLA works this way too? From a code/queue perspective i mean. As in, once certain parameters are met, the server detects the pilot and then & only then reveals part of the mystery ( prompting further pursuit or exploration therein ) .
Could potentially be why, after 10+ years, no one has made the ultimate discovery. Since it's very easy to miss---or just ignore---such a message.


When you get that message, go into FSS and scan the USS'es.

One of them will be blue/orange(IIRC), and is an optional random mission. (fly to it and jump in)
(it will usually be a ship where you will have to accept the mission via the comms panel)

In other words this is a situation where you can go to a point in space and accept some mission. They are usually worthless IMO, but hey, something to do.

Edit: regarding "detecting conditions" and such, sure - but this is a speculation that doesn't really lead us to anything, right? You could decide that you'll now accept all of those random offers of "mission objective detected" and "tip offs" and such in hope of eventually running into one that gets you to Raxxla. But how long are you willing to do those 10k CR per run missions? 10, 100, 1000 times? And if this isn't the right train of thought, it's a complete waste of time.

There were some people that spent rather large amount of effort investigating if any of those ingame mission concepts led to anything and the whole thread we're in is basically based on old missions that supposedly were meant to lead to something useful. So far nobody has found anything (and people do accept those on average in some fraction, so I suspect after 10 years someone would have run into something).

If you expect a mission to lead you to Raxxla, that does assume a couple things: someone (lorewise) found Raxxla before and is willing to share it with you. This is somewhat of an awkward concept from the point of view of running a few 10k CR missions - they already rewarded you based on previously accepted agreement - why would they give you more stuff? Even original TDW missions from this thread sort of implied that no - people didn't know where Raxxla was, that the relics were some form of an encrypted and maybe fragmented map, or something similar, and that gathering enough of them would lead to decrypting the map and giving us the info. Hence the system pointers from those missions being speculated as something useful, and hence Rochester's work to try to map them out in search for patterns, for instance. If those missions were accurate, then TDW did NOT find Raxxla at the time yet (i.e. a few years ago). Perhaps they did since, but back then based on those missions they probably did not.

So, either TDW is not the real Dark Wheel, or someone completely different holds the keys to Raxxla, or Raxxla is not discovered by anyone according to the lore.

Now if that was someone different, you could potentially try to get access to this via some means like random missions in the middle of nowhere, but that does beg the question how exactly that work would. I find that rather unbelievable that they would just hand you coordinates after running some silly fetch quest or somesuch (and since nobody so far ran into that, it probably doesn't work like that).
 
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Thanks @CMDR Ranae Gato for those ^ 2 links ! o7
( now i just gotta find the video from today's LiveStream ... https://www.youtube.com/@elitedangerous )
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btw everyone, CMDR @varonica posted some very interesting new intel over here in the other RAXXLA related thread--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...in-200-ly-of-sol.531480/page-32#post-10555958 ... which may or may not make things slightly easier now for our collective searchings? ( re: process of elimination? )
You do know about Google? 😁
Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNnSCkuc4a0&pp=ygURZnJvbnRpZXIgdW5sb2NrZWQ%3D

(ED starts around 48:06)

and Canonn website is always useful for info on various mysteries etc

 
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Fdev said in the Livestream today that the first goal of colonization is to reach out to Polaris.



Yes, Polaris. This is gonna be interesting. Will it pick up Salvation Arc again? We will see I guess.

OK so that means a permit unlock is coming. This system is tied to the previous games Thargoid storyline, so this likely IMOP will be a Thargs story arc.

If it’s Raxxla linked that would advocate a narrative gate… narrative gate obviously means such stories are locked and FD are holding the cards. That’s not a game of discovery, it’s a game of fetch..
 
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Fdev said in the Livestream today that the first goal of colonization is to reach out to Polaris.
Checking with Spansh's routers, with a 15LY range, and starting from somewhere like Aowicha (it probably doesn't matter exactly where, that's just an edge-of-bubble system in roughly the right direction) that seems like it will take at least 26 hops.

So the earliest it could be reached is 28 August, if at least a reasonably-organised group of players agree that that's the first goal of colonisation.

Aowicha​
HIP 116960​
Col 285 Sector KJ-E b13-2​
Col 285 Sector FD-G b12-5​
Col 285 Sector ED-G b12-6​
Col 285 Sector PJ-P c6-10​
Col 285 Sector YB-I b11-2​
Col 285 Sector KD-R c5-6​
Col 285 Sector XB-I b11-4​
Col 285 Sector KD-R c5-8​
Col 285 Sector ER-V d2-45​
Col 285 Sector JD-R c5-18​
Col 285 Sector PA-K b10-1​
Col 285 Sector DR-V d2-58​
Col 285 Sector IZ-L b9-3​
Col 285 Sector DC-T c4-1​
Col 285 Sector ET-N b8-2​
Col 285 Sector ZM-P b7-0​
Col 285 Sector XR-P b7-2​
Col 285 Sector YV-U c3-10​
Col 285 Sector UW-P b7-0​
Col 285 Sector UW-P b7-1​
Col 285 Sector SB-Q b7-1​
Wredguia XY-D b40-1​
Wredguia VY-P c19-7​
Wredguia WT-I d9-51​
Polaris​
 
OK do that means a permit unlock is coming. This system is tied to the previous games Thargoid storyline, so this likely IMOP will be a Thargs story arc.

If it’s Raxxla linked that would advocate a narrative gate… narrative gate obviously means such stories are locked and FD are holding the cards. That’s not a game of discovery, it’s a game of fetch..
I hope so.

No its proably not directly linked to Raxxla, but Thargoid/Guardian stuff.
Maybe we hear from Salvation again, cant imagine he just poofed out of existence in HIP 22460 :)

Checking with Spansh's routers, with a 15LY range, and starting from somewhere like Aowicha (it probably doesn't matter exactly where, that's just an edge-of-bubble system in roughly the right direction) that seems like it will take at least 26 hops.

So the earliest it could be reached is 28 August, if at least a reasonably-organised group of players agree that that's the first goal of colonisation.
Thats longer than I thought, but I also guess they will up the range after some time
 
Can we check some known systems like Sol using that new feature? I mean for hidden installations
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From left to right:

Uranus
Neptune
- Conjoint Mathematic Services
Pluto
- Delphi Control Chapter

Charon
* Vanth
(307261) 2002 MS4
Salacia
* Actaea
Haumea
*Hi'Iaka
Quaoar
MakeMake
(225088) 2007 OR10
Eris
Sedna
- Chamberlain Foundation
Persephone
-Primary Transport Authority
 
Thats longer than I thought, but I also guess they will up the range after some time
Playing around with the Spansh router, the 15 LY range may have been picked over 10 LY so that it's possible to reach Polaris. It's not reachable at all with 10 LY and even getting vaguely close would take well over a year.

Considering Frontier's normal timescales for development, giving themselves until at least August to finish off the "whatever they're putting in Polaris" content is probably intentional too.

(Do you have a livestream timestamp I can go to for what they said, please? I'd like to listen myself to check for subtleties but don't have time to listen to the whole thing right now)
 
OK do that means a permit unlock is coming. This system is tied to the previous games Thargoid storyline, so this likely IMOP will be a Thargs story arc.

If it’s Raxxla linked that would advocate a narrative gate… narrative gate obviously means such stories are locked and FD are holding the cards. That’s not a game of discovery, it’s a game of fetch..
Polaris if i remember is where a thargoid ship was station that had a gateway key and you had to side with them to get a scout handed to you that could do pretty fantastic things. Also the thargoids in that region were more mechanical than organic with their ships baring the name tharg on their sides. The gateway transported you to another region of space where you met the main mothership during the first war.
 
Playing around with the Spansh router, the 15 LY range may have been picked over 10 LY so that it's possible to reach Polaris. It's not reachable at all with 10 LY and even getting vaguely close would take well over a year.

Considering Frontier's normal timescales for development, giving themselves until at least August to finish off the "whatever they're putting in Polaris" content is probably intentional too.

(Do you have a livestream timestamp I can go to for what they said, please? I'd like to listen myself to check for subtleties but don't have time to listen to the whole thing right now)
they also said in the livestream they did go for 15ly so they can later scale up instead of starting too high.

Polaris.. i skipped through the livestream to find the timestamp but i couldnt find it, i than let an AI check the subtitles and it could find no mention of Polaris. So either i imagine things (space madness got me in the end) or the subtitles are auto generated. I check if it was another Trailblazer fdev video, but im pretty sure they said it somewhere.

EDIT: I got bamboozled, @ 1:31, f'ing Canonn.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI6Px-KnpH0&t=2s


Polaris if i remember is where a thargoid ship was station that had a gateway key and you had to side with them to get a scout handed to you that could do pretty fantastic things. Also the thargoids in that region were more mechanical than organic with their ships baring the name tharg on their sides. The gateway transported you to another region of space where you met the main mothership during the first war.
Didnt GalNet mention that the first sightings had Thargoid ships with "THARG" on the side? DO I IMAGINE THINGS WHAT IS HAPPENING

Edit: Found it; Tourist Spot 0184, "First Thargoid Contact". It was from the First Thargoid War.
 

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Heres an interesting element of apophenia; whilst I’ve been mapping the removed missions, Found an odd alignment with the system Paradiso.

Paradiso is Italian for paradise obviously and was the title for Dante’s third part of the Divine Comedy.

What is odd about it is, firstly it’s nowhere close to any of my data, but if you shift its Y axis vertically downwards, it actually falls inside the zone denoted by the removed missions and Brookes tours?

Error, coincidence apophenia?

phonto.jpeg

phonto.jpeg


Removed missions mapped #1
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10549814

Removed missions - conclusion
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10551512
 
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I'm not seeing many people mention that Installations are now showing on the system map. IMO this is a sign that Frontier are ready for us to find the Dark Wheel station/Raxxla.

Somewhere out there, will be a currently uninhabited system that has an installation in orbit of the 8th moon of a gas giant...
well, X marks the spot now got a whole new meaning ;D
This afternoon (since the servers were down) I watched yesterday's Frontier Unlocked...NO mention of Polaris that I could hear, perhaps it was a different video?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI6Px-KnpH0&t=2s


I got bamboozled, @ 1:31, f'ing Canonn . Normally i forget anything they try to say. :D
 
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