And? Frontier ships are a separate matter entirely as far as how they affect the balance of the game, personally. I'm talking about the players who don't spend a dime on the game after purchase beyond maybe odyssey.
Elite Dangerous | System Colonisation Beta Details & Feedback
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You do know that steam is only a tiny fraction of all copies of ED out there in the wild?
More than 8 million copies of ED were given away by Epic, and they don't publish player numbers.
Along with folk using the Frontier launcher, (as I do, and most of my friends (not that I have hundreds of them)) steam is useful for trends, but not actual numbers of players active. (we can disregard console players in this instance as they remain on legacy)
They (new players) can go from Sidewinder to iCutter, as we did, and then start colonizing. There are enough stars for everyone, there is no rush in this game.
Hmm. Well if that is the case, and I can build T1-3 surface installations without counting to my limit is better, but I still don’t see why penalizing players for their dedicated time grinding and building up a system instead of rewarding them. So they build a system with enough infrastructure to support two Coriolis and three Orbis…so what? Why is this game breaking and needs to be slowed down?
Eh, let's see how many of those systems are still even occupied three weeks from now. I'm pretty doubtful that anywhere near 8000 players are going to follow through with building their primary port in the allotted time.
It'd be nice to get a confirmation of that. I for one won't be building a second starport until I've got my settlements and installations built, as it's pretty daft to have the total cost of a system depend upon the order in which you built it.
The ammount of commodities needed to build an installation randomly changes
I am building 3 TIER 1 Agricultural settlements. They are all the same type so, in theory, they should all require the same ammount of commoditties
However:
ALUMINIMUN:
1st settlement: 1089
2nd settlement: 1156
3rd settlement: 1086
BIOWASTE:
1st settlement: 571
2nd settlement: 563
3rd settlement: 579
BUILDING FABRICATORS:
1st settlement: 88
2nd settlement: 82
3rd settlement: 84
and so on with EVERY commodity
I do not know if this is a bug or a feature, but I do not think it makes sense that the exact same installaion needs differents quantities of comoditties
This feature renders all spreadsheets USELESS
What is out in the wild is irrelevant. There can be 40 million copies and this is not a thread to debate or argue about it. What doesnt change the fact that the MAJORITY of the playerbase is saying to remove the point cost entirely.
I do expect FDev to listen to the playerbase like they have before in this case.
This is a system balance issue. Compared to the commodity balance issues before. There is no reason the point increase would help with the balance of a system in BGS as far as we can see. So that means its an arbitrary rule in the game that only is there on player architect systems. Its possibly not even on NPC ones.
If it wasn't a problem before, I think it is now. From all the market connector data I'm seeing, there's barely anywhere with more than 20 tonnes of the things, and they're being eaten up by cmdrs as soon as they spawn. I've just visited 5 seperate systems and limped away with a mere 8 out of 132 I need of the things (and that was with waiting 20 minutes for a restock at one of them). All the initial supplies of them have been exhausted and the respawn rate seems much lower than CMMs.
If you have a player faction your squad identifies with, when you colonise a system are they supposed to be present along with the faction you got the colonisation status from? As my second colonisation system doesn't have my player faction in the system?
All my colonised systems have a lot of other player factions in them. I am not sure who I'm grinding all these stations for?
If I had known colonisation was going to be turned off I would have picked better systems to colonisation as I grabbed the ones closest to my home system to see what it was all about.
At present, I have searched since the colonisation was turned off for a decent system to colonise but I have only found 1 but it is a bit far from the bubble centre and I don't know if I can acquire it when colonisation starts again before other people with the same problem.
It would be nice if there were better search filters to find a decent system as I am just jumping around aimlessly or copy and pasting into Inara with not much luck.
Don't want a fancy system just one with a splash of everything and not too far from the bubble. Please DM me if anyone has some spare.
And how do I change from a Colony Economy?
All my colonised systems have a lot of other player factions in them. I am not sure who I'm grinding all these stations for?
If I had known colonisation was going to be turned off I would have picked better systems to colonisation as I grabbed the ones closest to my home system to see what it was all about.
At present, I have searched since the colonisation was turned off for a decent system to colonise but I have only found 1 but it is a bit far from the bubble centre and I don't know if I can acquire it when colonisation starts again before other people with the same problem.
It would be nice if there were better search filters to find a decent system as I am just jumping around aimlessly or copy and pasting into Inara with not much luck.
Don't want a fancy system just one with a splash of everything and not too far from the bubble. Please DM me if anyone has some spare.
And how do I change from a Colony Economy?
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Apparently Fdev didn't quite think through what happens if you build a station orbiting a neutron star...
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldy1p_8iBS8
You probably just need to go a bit further. (If you're using Inara's commodity search, set a filter of "minimum 100 stock", or maybe even "minimum 500", or you'll just get a page of the nearby empty ones)
The sources on the edge of the bubble have two problems:
1) Everyone is going for them
2) They tend to be smaller economies in the first place, so have tiny restock rates
Closer to the centre of the bubble there are plenty of large (orbital refinery) economies with higher stocks and restock rates, that are also further from most of the action.
They're rarer than any of the other goods except Emergency Power Cells (now that CMM have been multiplied by about 5000) but on the other hand they're not needed in anything like the bulk CMM is either.
Have you finished building the initial starport yet? Your squadron's faction gets added in 3rd place when you do that, not before.
Construct things with the "System Economy Influence" property.
Well the wording from FDev 5 days ago was
Which I read as 8,000 systems with primary ports and 5,000 other structures completed.
While there won’t be that many new systems colonised since then the other structure figure will have increased a lot.
So I wouldn’t be too optimistic about large numbers of those systems becoming available again.
This is my first system
This is my second
My Player faction is "BLACK ALLIANCE INDUSTRIES"
This is my second
My Player faction is "BLACK ALLIANCE INDUSTRIES"
It is complete but doesn't have my player faction "BLACK ALLIANCE INDUSTRIES"? @Ian Doncaster
Would like to say that the build point costs should be static, not change as we develop a system. We need to be able to upgrade an existing installation if we have the points for it. That would allow later Architects to modify or fix an economy after the initial build.
I'd like to see a future update add a System Market. In the System Market, a system may be sold or bought from another player. This would then allow a player to become the system architect even if they joined after the current date. Sales are usually voluntary and only occur if either the player with system architect puts it up for sale, or the architect goes beyond some duration defined by devs to be an inactive player. Systems belonging to an inactive player are sold to an active player. Should the inactive player return they can buy their systems back. Vanguards or other update may allow a squadron or other player organization to participate in the System Market.
I'd like to see a future update add a System Market. In the System Market, a system may be sold or bought from another player. This would then allow a player to become the system architect even if they joined after the current date. Sales are usually voluntary and only occur if either the player with system architect puts it up for sale, or the architect goes beyond some duration defined by devs to be an inactive player. Systems belonging to an inactive player are sold to an active player. Should the inactive player return they can buy their systems back. Vanguards or other update may allow a squadron or other player organization to participate in the System Market.
I think the doubling of construction points is rather excessive. Should be reduced, or the amount of points given for constructing certain ports should be increased.