The Powerplay discussion thread.

Still more comments about Powerplay somehow ruining the game for the individual. Don't you guys realize that the individual was made insignificant the day they said that single player and multiplayer background simulations would be tied together?

Well, the first and most possibly the biggest mistake from FD was a decision that there will be multiplayer in ED one way or another. This game and whole it's philosophy (historically, from original Elite in 1984) is single player.
Without all this multiplayer mess, ED can be today a nice game, full of content, with thousands of mods etc. and most important, without any crap and whinning like balancing, overpovered, open/solo, PP etc.
 
Well, the first and most possibly the biggest mistake from FD was a decision that there will be multiplayer in ED one way or another. This game and whole it's philosophy (historically, from original Elite in 1984) is single player.
Without all this multiplayer mess, ED can be today a nice game, full of content, with thousands of mods etc. and most important, without any crap and whinning like balancing, overpovered, open/solo, PP etc.

Totally agree- looks like the game is REALLY not for us at the moment. Imagine all this player created mods/missions all the good stuff - ahhhh now I`m sad. Of course open MP could be still a option for all those that wants it.
 
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Can you provide me official link with the N^3/74000 where it is affirmed by DEVs. Thank you. -

For now that formula is not legit calculation and can not be used as base for your claims, nor reasons to control others.
Do the math, hit the numbers of the game.. Is it exact match? If not, it is then an estimation and again we come back to the basics.

If your number does not match the given number in the game, your assumption is wrong.

When you adjust the divider / 74000 , you can get any number you like and claim that is correct.

If 1 = 2, is correct in your mind .. Then 1 inch means a mile off.

500^3/74000 = 1689... Correct answer would be 1667. 1689 != 1667, therefore the presented formula is not legit. It has to be fixed.

As long we get a wrong number, we can only adjust 74000 to correct setting, but this is mathematically cheating, if we want to know exactly
where the numbers come from. I think the divider 74000 something is a bluff which you people use to control others.
 
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Without all this multiplayer mess, ED can be today a nice game, full of content, with thousands of mods etc. and most important, without any crap and whinning like balancing, overpovered, open/solo, PP etc.

he, not really.
i am a game modder, and trust me, all that whining about balance will still be there, its just changing direction towards us who create the mods instead.
 
Well, the first and most possibly the biggest mistake from FD was a decision that there will be multiplayer in ED one way or another. This game and whole it's philosophy (historically, from original Elite in 1984) is single player.
Without all this multiplayer mess, ED can be today a nice game, full of content, with thousands of mods etc. and most important, without any crap and whinning like balancing, overpovered, open/solo, PP etc.

It would have changed nothing but the possible availability of mods. The rest of this is part and parcel with publishing a game in this day and age. Multiplayer means that Frontier has less of a struggle trying to provide content in such an insanely vast game world. Other Players are a constantly renewing source of content.
 
he, not really.
i am a game modder, and trust me, all that whining about balance will still be there, its just changing direction towards us who create the mods instead.

THis is not entirely correct. For example, I played Oblivion and Skyrim heavily modded, I have couple of hundreds hours in each game, I read the forums in the past etc. And no one was whinning for example about balance. If I do not like a mod, I do not use it, no problem. The wast majority of mods I used was mods which did game harder, not simpler. For example cold and hunger in Skyrim etc.
 
I have earned rank 5 without spending insane amounts on the powerplay.
I started out preparing abit and fortifying, yet i am no trader, so i quickly took to expansion and opposition.
I reached rank 5 at week 4, now i'm given a sweet salary at the end this cycle,
to maintain the rank i will have to play 20 hours i guess, opposing in a small wing (to speed up engagements).

Rank 5 by throwing money out of the window? Nah thanks.

20 hours... to maintain... half of a full time job.

I guess the hours of our lives are somehow not precious. Just something to be wasted for an absolutely marginal level of entertainment of mostly repetition.

For the first time, I feel TV may not be the very bottom of ungainly nonsense to waste the only thing on, that is truly ours as human beings.

Shovelware is even below TV
 
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Can you provide me official link with the N^3/74000 where it is affirmed by DEVs. Thank you. -

For now that formula is not legit calculation and can not be used as base for your claims, nor reasons to control others.
Do the math, hit the numbers of the game.. Is it exact match? If not, it is then an estimation and again we come back to the basics.

If your number does not match the given number in the game, your assumption is wrong.

When you adjust the divider / 74000 , you can get any number you like and claim that is correct.

If 1 = 2, is correct in your mind .. Then 1 inch means a mile off.

At the moment Winters have 500 exploited systems:

dominion.jpg

500³ ÷ 74000 = 1689

Our actual overheads amount to 1667 CC:

overheads.jpg

I'd say that this is a fairly accurate estimation. The other powers also find results close to their actual figures.
 
THis is not entirely correct. For example, I played Oblivion and Skyrim heavily modded, I have couple of hundreds hours in each game, I read the forums in the past etc. And no one was whinning for example about balance. If I do not like a mod, I do not use it, no problem. The wast majority of mods I used was mods which did game harder, not simpler. For example cold and hunger in Skyrim etc.

well cool, this is a scene where i did allot of work. im not familiar whit cold and hunger though, are you perhaps thinking about frostfall?
i did help quite allot whit sorting out bugs on that, and yes we did get community flak even there. mostly because our skyrim mods often broke peoples save games, and even more often when people tried to combine them whit other incompatible mods that we had nothing to do whit we still got the blame.

and let me tell you, the reason why most of us modders creates mods is because we love tinkering whit games and we love working together whit other talented modders.
few of us does it for the gamers only and there is pretty much a general consensus in the modding community that gamers are pricks because of how ungrateful they can be.
(note that i myself is trying not to stereotype, but sometimes i think i fall into that pit to)
 
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I said, bring me the correct data, provided and affirmed by DEV. So far you have not succeed to do that. Your claim still is estimation and is not valid.

The correct data is?

And also present me the formula you are showing. Tell me exactly where does the distance to capital is added. This is math. Show me the spot.

Let us see how your university education has provided you the scientific approach to a problem. It may look a small error to you, but it is an error.
This error provides an essential question. Is your math right?

If your math still fails to get correct answers and you claim estimations, you would be sending satellites to hit the moon with your calculations.
Right now you are scaring players form expanding their power because your satellite is about to hit a moon.

Ok have a blast, show us how you calculate this accurately. No we do not want estimations. We want exact and accurate match with all powers presented.
Else your formula is out from the window.

Let us look at empire with 100 less systems in control. They are hitting turmoil. - Can you provide me example why our system with 100 stars more is not yet in turmoil. - Is there some other type of formula presented to Winter vs Empire? If that is the case, show us the formula which has been affirmed by DEV.

Now for the past days I have been trying to explain you a problem which a child could approve. -

So what is the formula presented to us. I is potentiometer which can be twisted to give out certain data. Turn the and there you have it.
Trust me, I am an engineer and this is a one way to put your entire power to question it's basic concept of your "orders". There is a lot wrong calculation in them.

You have all the given data in the game, put them to spreadsheet and start crunching the numbers. Eventually you will get the correct answer to this.
I did my math, damn I love to keep this to myself. Now it is your turn to lighten your knowledge.

But as long you are throwing in a potentiometer, you are not going to enforce anyone with orders that has no valid base. - Thank you.
 
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well cool, this is a scene where i did allot of work. im not familiar whit cold and hunger though, are you perhaps thinking about frostfall?
i did help quite allot whit sorting out bugs on that, and yes we did get community flak even there. mostly because our skyrim mods often broke peoples save games, and even more often when people tried to combine them whit other incompatible mods that we had nothing to do whit we still got the blame.

Yes, Frostfall. But what you describe is totally different from whinning about overpower, balancing etc. If mod break the save game or is incompatible with other mod(s), this is normal bug rant and yes, you are right that a lot of players is rude to modders when it comes to bugs. Players simply are not developers and they are not able to imagine the sheer complexity of modded game. Normally thinking players simply describe the bug and wait when the bug is killed. After all, the modders are working free of charge and IMHO is totally impolite to be rude on them.
 
Powerplay (Can't shoot back)

I wonder if Powerplay works as it should. You can obviously be attacked by pilots from other Powerplay factions. I have been attacked several times but when I shoot back I become fined and wanted instantly. Should it be like this? People representing other factions can shoot at you but you can´t shoot back?

ps. I am reffering to Solo game mode.
 
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