The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Because discussion are only fun when everyone agrees with you? LOL wheres the fun in that?

I never claimed to speak for the community only that the actions by the majority of current backers are the opposition to the majority of views shown in this thread.

What exactly are the actions by the majority of backers? - remember you are talking about over 800,000 people when you answer (according to CIG figures)
 
no, but it does show that the compelling part of the episodes are the experiences of the crew and not just the location of the ship.

That's an OK point to make, but it isn't the argument you have been making.

If you say "...play like star trek" then considering the whole "...voyages of the starship enterprise....seek out new worlds and new civilisations..." and so on, it's pretty reasonable to respond with "....but there's lots of players and only 100 systems (of which we have a fraction of one already)"

I don't mind the new direction you're taking here because it's fair enough, but it's a new direction nonetheless.
 
What exactly are the actions by the majority of backers? - remember you are talking about over 800,000 people when you answer (according to CIG figures)



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That's an OK point to make, but it isn't the argument you have been making.

If you say "...play like star trek" then considering the whole "...voyages of the starship enterprise....seek out new worlds and new civilisations..." and so on, it's pretty reasonable to respond with "....but there's lots of players and only 100 systems (of which we have a fraction of one already)"

I don't mind the new direction you're taking here because it's fair enough, but it's a new direction nonetheless.


You stand at the bottom of the canyon, the dry desert air moving slowly around you. The bottom of the canyon is in shadows, the sun behind the canyon walls now as it sags further to its rest for the day. No clouds mar the deepening blue of the sky. As you listen carefully, you hear a faint echo reverberating off the walls of the canyon, from a faraway voice...

"I'm shifting the goalposts..."
 
That's an OK point to make, but it isn't the argument you have been making.

If you say "...play like star trek" then considering the whole "...voyages of the starship enterprise....seek out new worlds and new civilisations..." and so on, it's pretty reasonable to respond with "....but there's lots of players and only 100 systems (of which we have a fraction of one already)"

I don't mind the new direction you're taking here because it's fair enough, but it's a new direction nonetheless.

As I said, not a singular meaning, it even shows what you yourself takes from star trek vs what i take from it. Because those meanings do not meet does not mean we are talking about a different TV show. I find Elite Dangerous exploration boring but EVEs great. Eve has less systems ( by a large margin) but EVE imo offers more in that category.

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I think you forgot a multiplier somewhere.
 
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I think you forgot a multiplier somewhere.

No, it looks about right. If a majority of backers created that little bump of profitability, then they spent somewhere in the region of ¢50 each. Well, unless CIG isn't vastly inflating their backer numbers, in which case it's more like ¢20.
 
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No, it looks about right. If a majority of backers created that little bump of profitability, then they spent somewhere in the region of ¢50 each. Well, unless CIG isn't vastly inflating their backer numbers, in which case it's more like ¢20.

That is only if you count every backer purchases something at every sale, what is a more likely is the majority of backers purchase something throughout the sale season here and there. Also keep in mind that funds only increase with new cash given in sales, not for CCUs which backers with larger sums of money in the game use to get new ships without spending new money.

I actually do believe that the website doesn't represent exact numbers of backers. i would cut that 1.6 million in half at least being that that numbers seems to go buy ship sells and not new opened accounts. I think, Im not sure tho.
 
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ED is ED, it would make absolutely zero sense to put a dark-skinned person there as an Imperial figure of power, as the lore just doesnt back it up.

How do you figure? The ethnic makeup and look of the Duvals had not been established in any lore. The Empire has been established as the masters of genetic manipulation in the Frontier setting fiction (great book that), and Achenar is a huge blue start putting out tons of radiation. The ruling class being very dark skinned would have made much more sense, and given the game an interesting visual aspect and a twist on the old "slaver aristocracy" stereotype. Do you think a dark skinned imperial family in Achenar wouldn't have made sense somehow? I don't see why.
 
ED is ED, it would make absolutely zero sense to put a dark-skinned person there as an Imperial figure of power, as the lore just doesnt back it up. ED is filled with all kinds of distgusting things: slavery, corruption, nepotism, rampant weapon and drugs trafficking, you name it. I fail to see how having a happy stock-photo powerplay lineup would make things 'better'. It'd be just weird IMHO.

Holy shiz, is this what this thread has come to?

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How do you figure? The ethnic makeup and look of the Duvals had not been established in any lore. The Empire has been established as the masters of genetic manipulation in the Frontier setting fiction (great book that), and Achenar is a huge blue start putting out tons of radiation. The ruling class being very dark skinned would have made much more sense, and given the game an interesting visual aspect and a twist on the old "slaver aristocracy" stereotype. Do you think a dark skinned imperial family in Achenar wouldn't have made sense somehow? I don't see why.

The best way to get a tan has always been work hard outdoors, ruling classes never ever do that and they shun people who do.
 
That is only if you count every backer purchases something at every sale, what is a more likely is the majority of backers purchase something throughout the sale season here and there.

You offered up the image as something that was supposed to show what the majority of backers do. What it shows is that they don't spend very much, even if we assume they're as few as they let slip during the summer — the more there are of them, the less they spend. Now, this may not have been your intent with picking that image to illustrate your point, but it is what it illustrates.

…which rather raises the question of what your point was to begin with? What were you trying to show as to the actions of the majority? I know they've published some kind of customer spending break-down earlier, which would probably serve you better.

I actually do believe that the website doesn't represent exact numbers of backers. i would cut that 1.6 million in half at least being that that numbers seems to go buy ship sells and not new opened accounts. I think, Im not sure tho.

Yes, it counts everything and everyone that has ever done anything on the site — the number of actual backers was said to be in the 500k region a couple of months ago, and in spite of everything, they've probably picked up a couple more since. But that's how you get to something in the half-dollar region (which, admittedly is a pretty wide margin of error): assuming just over 50% has given ¢50 each, and that $194k peak would represent a total population of 776k individuals. Sure, they spent as much again the next day, but that's still just $1 over two days — not the most grandiose of gestures from that supposed majority, now is it?
 
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You offered up the image as something that was supposed to show what the majority of backers do.

it also shows total funding to date, but you would have to look at the image to come to that conclusion. i guess i could have crop the piece that served your point better but i didnt. sorry
 
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it also shows total funding to date, but you would have to look at the image to come to that conclusion.

Yes, but that still tells us absolutely nothing about some assumed majority. You need to dig up one of the funding breakdowns to get to that kind of data.
 
The best way to get a tan has always been work hard outdoors, ruling classes never ever do that and they shun people who do.

I have worked outside for most of my life, and have always wondered why I have never met a member of the ruling classes. Now I know. Shunned.:(
 
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