The Star Citizen Thread v5

[Viajero]

That's an interesting trap you've set... you're creating your own personal definition of "more", and then slamming someone when they haven't met your criteria. That's the sort of logic a 3rd grader uses.

"Dad, you said we were going somewhere FUN!"

We're at a park, this isn't fun?

"I wanted DISNEYWORLD! YOU LIED"

This is so disingenuous I can't even begin to formulate an answer.

Chris Roberts has not only promised Disneyworld but that every city in the whole planet would have its own, all of them interconnected with the most magnificent rollercoaster ever. The MMRE.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

That another game has avatars and really amazing looking asteroid stations now.

It seems CIG business is continuing as usual. It is fun though...no Squadron 42 info, no 3.0 info, just bits and pieces which might come, but by sound of it is another year away.

 

[Tippis]

The MMRE.

Mouldy Mutton Ready to Eat?
Many Macarons?
Milled Machinery?
Mossy Mountains?


Priming from camping planning makes for very strange associations…

 

[JonnyRedHed]

Do you remember when we were promised HD webcam driven avatars. I really wanted that to happen, I really did. Along with full and proper force feedback support. Neither now seem likely to ever happen.

 

[dsmart]

Do you remember when we were promised HD webcam driven avatars. I really wanted that to happen, I really did. Along with full and proper force feedback support. Neither now seem likely to ever happen.

Yeah, but did you pay for it in advance, and it didn't get delivered?

 

[Neo-ST]

Do you remember when we were promised HD webcam driven avatars. I really wanted that to happen, I really did. Along with full and proper force feedback support. Neither now seem likely to ever happen.

Me too.
It was in one of the Wingman Hangars.

 

[dsmart]

Words. Fail. Me

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...efund_ill_see_you_all_in_a_few_years/debtsto/

Too bad you asked for a refund and no longer have faith in the project. They are holding a large majority of the content back due to people like you complaining about unfinished mechanics, content, etc. People touring CIG have seen stuff that would your pants and make you take down this post. But I can't tell you cause NDA.

Also, they're either backlogged or they're still employing delay tactics. TWO WEEKS to get a refund?!?

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/5wq62q/redpandarawr_gets_a_refund_516/

ps: TheAgent had a leak some weeks back where he had said that refunds were going to slow down based on sales/funding. Which explains the recent flurry of refunds after recent sales. Here's another one

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/5wrhki/just_received_my_1200_refund/

 

[Marak]

How to make a game exactly opposite to the CIG way.

[video=youtube;UvCri1tqIxQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvCri1tqIxQ[/video]

 

[dsmart]

...and we have the second confirmation of the existence of a 2.7 patch; even as CIG continues to dangle 3.0 in front of backers like a carrot stick. Of course none of this means anything seeing as they can brand any build to be 3.0 and call it a day. They did the same thing with the 2.5.x path in Dec, which miraculously became 2.6.0 though, aside from Star Marine, didn't contain most of what was previously promised, and which are now playing out in 2.6.1 (current) and upcoming 2.6.2 builds.

The first confirmation was by Todd Pappy and I covered that in this post back on Feb 14.

As I wrote back then, at the end of the day, they can brand any build as 3.0, and call it a day. All with complete disregard for promises made. And they can do this with impunity because even as they continue to do so, and whales, in Sunk Cost Fallacy, keep propping it up, they get the impression that they have a blank check. And with that, they have zero incentive to finish the games as promised, let alone deliver on any promises made.

Cue the mental gymnastics...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5wp35m/27_patch_mentioned_again_in_todays_livestream/

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if some devs are working on the original 2.7 build, and just didn't care enough to change the build number.
It's quite easy to say "two seven" by accident when you're constantly working on a build that is called "2.7" on the dev side of things, even if it will become public build 3.0.

 

[dsmart]

Absolutely no way in hell that 5 whales (or a combination of same) each dropped $15K on a Completionist package at this stage. They've got to be cooking the books. There's no other explanation. Either that, or someone is actively engaged in money laundering.

Five Completionist packs purchased in the past week, well done CIG! Game is good now, and there are 10 more Hartwell Music Sentinel 88G's in the 'Verse!

That's most likely more Completionist packs purchased in 7 days than were purchased in Feb-Dec 2016. (I don't have records for Jan 2016.)

 

[Ian Skippy]

Absolutely no way in hell that 5 whales (or a combination of same) each dropped $15K on a Completionist package at this stage. They've got to be cooking the books. There's no other explanation. Either that, or someone is actively engaged in money laundering.



https://i.imgur.com/8i0A9kB.png

If you buy your own completionist package, thats technically legal I assume? At least over here thats how record companies get their stuff in the charts...

 

[LeSabre]

Aye... that could be it. The thread exudes hilarity on literally every page.

I'm somewhat amused by a game that achieved it's Kickstarter goal of 2 mill, years ago, and has yet to release despite raising funding in the hundreds of millions. Not exactly hilarity.

I'll admit seeing CR trying and failing to display even a tiny bit of familiarity with this 100+ million dollar game bordered on hilarious, albeit with an underlying sense of confusion or bewilderment.

The fact that the subject has generated nearly 2500 pages tickles a little though.

The correct context to view it is that it's basically "Mars Attacks" and CR is the Alien ambassador/leader who keeps agreeing to peace (making promises) and then immediately backpeddling and vaporizing everyone (doing the exact opposite) with huge smug satisfaction while the humans (loyal backers) keep thinking the alien (CR) is honorable and assuming every peace agreement (promise/feature/release date) is legit.

Now repeat that chain of events to a ridiculous degree, over 6 years rather than less than 2 hours and assume the humans keep opening their wallets everytime the alien declares peace handing the martian all their money.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

The guys starting the game with these ships will be very happy....

Do you think? My ED pledge meant i had my choice to start with a mildly fettled cobra III with a (at the time) bundle of cash, but I would not have dreamed of doing it. For me these sort of games are about the journey not the destination, and assumiing the game is remotely fun to play (and it it isnt then my starting ship is irrelavent) then to start the game with a massive money maker, well, personally i cant think of anything more game breaking.

to each their own however

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Then filmed at the imaginarium the most expensive mo-cap studio in the world. Also cut-scenes suck, I mean they really really suck, and cut-scenes made by the man who gave us Wing Commander the movie are going to pass the suck event horizon and possibly break reality.

I think he was also involved in Lord of War and Lucky number sleven. Perhaps not oscar material but not bad either imo.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Nice find AJW

Let's all have a laugh at that guy with the egg on his face. What a pratt.

wow i seem to be white knighting SC mode today - which is odd as right now i do not actually like how the game plays personally and i am sour about VR becoming a maybe rather than a definite!.

however you do not have to look too far from these forums to find early dev diaries of a certain videogame which has so far hugely under delivered in certain areas from what was sold. Just becasue the cutting room floor is littered with great ideas does not mean the whole game will suck.

 

[Stigbob]

Do you think? My pledge meant i had my choice to start with a mildly fettled cobra III with a (at the time) bundle of cash, but I would not have dreamed of doing it. For me these sort of games are about the journey not the destination, and assumiing the game is remotely fun to play (and it it isnt then my starting ship is irrelavent) then to start the game with a massive money maker, well, personally i cant think of anything more game breaking.

to each their own however

It's the perfect scenario for a ship/gold farmer though, ships that sell for a good chunk of the average wage of quite a few countries and an already established grey market. Kaching.

I think he was also involved in Lord of War and Lucky number sleven. Perhaps not oscar material but not bad either imo.

He was also involved in Outlander which was OK(ish) as a producer along with the titles you've mentioned, however the only film he had overall control of and directed was bad and not good bad like plan 9.

 

[Garix]

Do you think? My pledge meant i had my choice to start with a mildly fettled cobra III with a (at the time) bundle of cash, but I would not have dreamed of doing it. For me these sort of games are about the journey not the destination, and assumiing the game is remotely fun to play (and it it isnt then my starting ship is irrelavent) then to start the game with a massive money maker, well, personally i cant think of anything more game breaking.

to each their own however

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I think he was also involved in Lord of War and Lucky number sleven. Perhaps not oscar material but not bad either imo.

Lucky Number Slevin and Lord of War (two films I'm rather fond of) are both producer credits. Wing commander he directed. Big difference in having creative control as the director and just getting people (himself included) to stump up operating finances. I don't think anyone will disagree that getting other people to part with their money is something he is very, very good at.

wow i seem to be white knighting SC mode today - which is odd as right now i do not actually like how the game plays personally and i am sour about VR becoming a maybe rather than a definite!.

however you do not have to look too far from these forums to find early dev diaries of a certain videogame which has so far hugely under delivered in certain areas from what was sold. Just becasue the cutting room floor is littered with great ideas does not mean the whole game will suck.

From the little I've see from both camps the biggest difference is simple: One said we WILL have this and then backtracked the other said we HOPE to have this and then backtracked.

 

[Neo-ST]

So taking on cargo could add total mass, and slow the ship down. Again, you're creating your own spec and stating unless CIG creates THAT spec, they lied.

But this is all just pointless either way... eventually it goes back to "CIG promised a red button. They provided a green one. THEY LIED." If CIG promised 100 systems and we end up with 95, I'll base my opinion on the fun-factor of the 95 systems - not get outraged over the 5 that aren't there. Some people won't; to them, the important thing is Did You Make 100 Systems, because they want another checkbox worth of ammo for forum battles.

Dude...
They're right and you're not, and you know it. It's ok to make mistakes, but to not acknowledge them is just stupid. Can we get along now?
CIG is garbage of a company, they lied on so many thing that there's even a maintained list of it.
They're just not very well directed, which is the root of all problems.

 

[Klyn]

From the summary:


Timestamp [27:08]
https://youtu.be/Cm8EpvHeRZc?t=27m8s

I am so, *SO* glad that I am out, that I got my refund. "Nothing like Freelancer". My a**. Could someone tell the self claimed makers of the "BDSSE" that better maneuverability with a stick is irrelevant when you have a pretty nimble turret in space that can hit and track its targets with all its gimballed weapons and with pinpoint mouse accuracy?

 

[Zetta]

Words. Fail. Me

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...efund_ill_see_you_all_in_a_few_years/debtsto/

Too bad you asked for a refund and no longer have faith in the project. They are holding a large majority of the content back due to people like you complaining about unfinished mechanics, content, etc. People touring CIG have seen stuff that would your pants and make you take down this post. But I can't tell you cause NDA.

The absence of evidence is all the evidence you need....

 

[Neo-ST]

I am so, *SO* glad that I am out, that I got my refund. "Nothing like Freelancer". My a**. Could someone tell the self claimed makers of the "BDSSE" that better maneuverability with a stick is irrelevant when you have a pretty nimble turret in space that can hit and track its targets with all its gimballed weapons and with pinpoint mouse accuracy?

We've been trying to say that on official forums since AC 0.8, where we were stoned to death/moderated/ignored.