THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Why Sol?

The expedition to the Rift left from Reorte, or Riedquat.. One of those. Wouldn't the others leave from there, too? As they were all under the same organization

Because on the scale that we're talking about it measuring from Sol or Reidquat or any other place in the core worlds is not going to change the resulting line drawn to the settlements by any appreciable measurement.
 
Galnet is.

Not sure about Universal Cartographics? They are Mars based and has their own director. The last one(Karl Devene), seemed very Fed friendly.

Actually, he was not UC. He's part of the Federal Astrocartography department...

I think that's the thing based on Mars, being the Federation's capital and all. I don't think the other powers/independents would stand for UC if it was there.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/582dc4489657bacc7c29abb9
 
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Don't forget there are 2 factions/subscpecies/clans of "Thargoids" & I believe this is still canon -the implacably hostile to humans Klaxians and potentially more friendly Oresrians. They are almost indistinguishable, but hate each other. Therefore the flowerships may be from both factions; Klaxians may be destroying some human ships while the Oresrians may be searching for the Klaxians, which is why the reported hyperdictions have not resulted in the deaths of those hyperdicted humans. IFF we can befriend the Oresrians then we may be able to obtain technology upgrades that will allow us to fight the Klaxians.

This is another reason why I urge people not to shoot at flowerships!!

Ok, so sub-"breeds", so did the mycoid virus hit them both? Did INRA wipe out both "Breeds"? (just to be on the safe side). If so, then the Alliance trying to deliver a cure to the friendly side, but being stopped by INRA makes sense, as does the Alliance actually making a cure.

These are just hypothetical questions, I don't expect a cannon answer.
 
The Dark Wheel may well be the 'good guys' in this story. They do however know a lot and doesn't talk much.

The ending of the Dark Wheel(the book), talks about a corps of Elites that controls Raxxla. These guys may well be a different group than the Dark Wheel(CEIP?).

They were a different group. They were the ones who had Dark Wheel members assassinated.
 
Ok, so sub-"breeds", so did the mycoid virus hit them both? Did INRA wipe out both "Breeds"? (just to be on the safe side). If so, then the Alliance trying to deliver a cure to the friendly side, but being stopped by INRA makes sense, as does the Alliance actually making a cure.

These are just hypothetical questions, I don't expect a cannon answer.

I think FD have indicated that the INRA biological attack on the Thargoids did not happen in the E D universe.
 
I'm not necessarily saying it's the Dark Wheel that organized the Dynasty expedition. I'm not even sure they killed Jason Ryder. What I mean is that they have the knowledge.
They knew what was going on, on Raxxla. They knew the Thargoids. They knew the capability of the 'Elyssia line' of Teorge clones.

If someone wanted organize a huge secret project like the Dynasty expedition, they would surely consult the Dark Wheel. I think Rebecca got involved through the Dark Wheel, not INRA.

JR was a member of the Dark Wheel. They didn't have him killed. The Dark Wheel we're looking for Raxxla. JR found it and when he did there were people already there and they had JR assassinated.
 
I think FD have indicated that the INRA biological attack on the Thargoids did not happen in the E D universe.

I think it did:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57ada8969657baeb6e876c6c

The vaccine delivery on the other hand, probably never happened.

I'm pretty sure we are in trouble because we have disabled the only force that kept the 'new Thargoids' at bay.

These 'third race' or ''Kalaxian' thargoids are now advancing because we stopped the 'old Thargoids' or Oresrians or whatever, from flying.
 
JR was a member of the Dark Wheel. They didn't have him killed. The Dark Wheel we're looking for Raxxla. JR found it and when he did there were people already there and they had JR assassinated.

You are probably right. I never quite understood if these guys were a separate group or a faction of the Dark Wheel? Lets presume they are a separate group. They are the guys we are looking for. :D
 
I think it did:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57ada8969657baeb6e876c6c

The vaccine delivery on the other hand, probably never happened.

I'm pretty sure we are in trouble because we have disabled the only force that kept the 'new Thargoids' at bay.

These 'third race' or ''Kalaxian' thargoids are now advancing because we stopped the 'old Thargoids' or Oresrians or whatever, from flying.

Need to stop at a station and reload no rep. Here's some iron and anomalous wake scans for you.
 
I've been saying that for a very long time (in fact, i think i said that last year, just before the ruins have been found and the guardians where discovered).

The biggest reason for why i don't think the Thargoids (if they are sitting...eh...standing...uh...floating? Whatever - in those Flowerships) are a real threat. I also still believe, there is "more" to all of that. There is a reason beyond the obvious, that so many Systems are permit locked. Has anyone been able to confirm the storylines about the Thargoids from the Wars? Is the Human-Thargoid cooperation still Canon? INARA also had a different agenda back then if i recall.

On a side note: I've said it before, but kudos to Drew for spinning a story/character that could be connected. I'm still salty about the whole ordeal though and still think her death was rather pointless. Especially because she was so out of character...

The truth will come via multiple routes! (Did you know that radio was invented by 3 different people-an Italian called Marconi, a Russion called Popov, and a Yorkshireman called Emley who left a large mast in place on't moors) ;)

Someone reported from looking at the logfiles (not strictly file dipping so he was let off with an admonition and a reduced biscuit ration for a week) that the hyperdictions have an attached count which appeared to increment if the flower ships were shot at. A little meta thinking suggests that's a clear indication of FD setting us up to either start the next war, or tick off potential allies against the real threat. One thing I like about FD is the subtlety they exhibit at times; one thing I dislike about FD is the subtley, cos sometimes they are just toooo subtle!
 
You are probably right. I never quite understood if these guys were a separate group or a faction of the Dark Wheel? Lets presume they are a separate group. They are the guys we are looking for. :D

Ta! Re-read it a few days back so it's all very fresh at the moment! :)

And yeah, definitely prime candidates for it. In the version where the whole thing is a fabrication, I'd say it's them behind it even more than in other versions. A classic piece of multi-layered misdirection which would serve their purposes very nicely.
 
Actually, he was not UC. He's part of the Federal Astrocartography department...
Universal Cartographics comes across to me more as a protocol for transmitting and receiving exploration data, rather than an organisation as such.

Every faction has their own - and gets influence for submissions to it - and there's no visible data sharing between them - whatever 'Universal' refers to, it's not meaning 'single authoritative system'. Both CoR and FA data sales in the competing CGs were through UC.

It's possible that the Pilots Federation were responsible for the protocol design, or that the conspirators have built in back doors, of course.
 
You are probably right. I never quite understood if these guys were a separate group or a faction of the Dark Wheel? Lets presume they are a separate group. They are the guys we are looking for. :D

Over the centuries the Pilots Federation has remained secretive in nature and neutral in conflicts, and has grown into one of the dominant financial superpowers of the galaxy through its GalNet data network. Originally a star chart, ship data and bounty management system, GalNet has evolved into an effective galactic infrastructure and content monopoly on news, market pricing and communication systems. This has not been without controversy, with periodic claims of data hoarding and abuse of its position.

It’s not surprising that an organization founded on status, and with such influence and power, has several cliques (The Dark Wheel being the most infamous). Or that those of Elite rank have further exploited their status and the incredible demand for their services, by forming an organization within an organization; the Elite Pilots Federation.

Anti-Dark Wheel (White wheel ? Pale Wheel ? Cheese Wheel ?) is a clique in Pilot's Federation.
Han_Zen is a member of Pilot's Federation.
Han_Zen claims to not know who makes up Cheese Wheel.

QED Han_Zen is a member of Cheese Wheel.

Get him boys, it's sandwich time.
 
Anti-Dark Wheel (White wheel ? Pale Wheel ? Cheese Wheel ?) is a clique in Pilot's Federation.
Han_Zen is a member of Pilot's Federation.
Han_Zen claims to not know who makes up Cheese Wheel.

QED Han_Zen is a member of Cheese Wheel.

Get him boys, it's sandwich time.

These are not the wheels you are looking for.... whoosh...
 
The only question I have about them is why they haven't ensured their power will continue in the colonia bubble with a PF system there for a presence
In light of this weekend's discoveries and confirmations, there are a lot of unanswered questions surrounding Colonia.

What we have out at Colonia is a settlement of ~1.5 million people (plus another million or so in pending settlements) - with ELWs aplenty to take in billions more even without terraforming; the limiting factor would be infrastructure - much further from Sol than the Dynasty project's bolt-holes.

Was Jaques' misjump planned by the conspiracy? If so, how far back - were the Fuel Rats in on it too? If not, what do the conspiracy think of a new exodus site further out than their original plans and in somewhat better state? Either way, when the threat to the bubble arrives, will they try to take over Colonia? Or are they there already? Did Jaques discover something on his previous trips outside the bubble and independently conclude an Exodus was required - or has a man of his age and connections been part of the conspiracy all along? Is there anything special about Eol Prou and the Colonia Nebula? And who are the "No Look Here Gang" and what do they have to hide?
 
IDid Jacques discover something on his previous trips outside the bubble and independently conclude an Exodus was required - or has a man of his age and connections been part of the conspiracy all along?

Quite some time ago I was intrigued by the possibility that he 'knew things'. He's the only sentient being alive that we know of with first hand knowledge of events the last couple hundred years. Sadly he'd gone on walk about and when he finally did return last year he wasn't talking.

Need a "Ask Jacques" a question CG. Bring him enough Lavian Brandy and he'll tell us something interesting.
 
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