Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made

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I am still waiting on the "meaningful" part of PVP, lets not steer from the topic.

Soooo.... coming back round to the "Topic" which was, and I quote "Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made?

How exactly have you personally contributed to the OP? I mean, other than baiting people into epeen posts, and the like?

It's not a "sandbox", nor did it ever profess to be such. It's an environment where PvP gameplay is optional, there are 3 modes to choose from and they're all considered equal.

Now whichever mode you decide to choose is up to you, however, it's not YOUR decision to choose how others decide to play.

Did I miss anything here?
 

ALGOMATIC

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Soooo.... coming back round to the "Topic" which was, and I quote "Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made?

How exactly have you personally contributed to the OP? I mean, other than baiting people into epeen posts, and the like?

It's not a "sandbox", nor did it ever profess to be such. It's an environment where PvP gameplay is optional, there are 3 modes to choose from and they're all considered equal.

Now whichever mode you decide to choose is up to you, however, it's not YOUR decision to choose how others decide to play.

Did I miss anything here?

Yes you did, I am waiting on the meaningful part of PVP (direct PVP not the meme) as some people claimed in prev posts.
 
Front and center on elitedangerous.com

EPIC MULTIPLAYER

not

EPIC SINGLEPLAYER


https://i.imgur.com/EvY6Zch.png

Not front and center, more like off to the right, after PLAY YOUR OWN WAY.
Curious, did you even read the description underneath?
Not one mention of PvP.
"Or just hunt other CMDRs" seems to be missing as well.

*EDIT*
I just went through the new to me site, PVP is mentioned once, in the CQC section. Why is it CQC and not Arena?
 
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Im fairly sure ye hit the nail on the head but thats why its so much fun to use...Ill hazard a guess that what happened wasnt something DB had hoped would happen at all either...but here we are nonetheless...cant go back and seemingly cant go forward either...or in any direction on this forum without stepping on someones toes.

At least I can say I play in open all the time now...then again, Im so far out its a moot point what mode I play in...I even offered the OP the opportunity to come find me if he wanted a nice easy gank...gave him a big clue too told him the system had a star and planets in it which might narrow it down a few...Im being serious and theres a role play reason why Ill offer to pay...if I could pay which I cant but the sentiment is there ^

I think when he said that it was before even the early days of the game, and that since then the player base and desire has changed in ways they (fdev) would have needed a crystal ball to foresee. No harm done, I'm just pointing it out. With that said, I believe that it's important for the dev's to understand that they can't cling to the past, either, and that plenty of us want to see the game grow.
 
I think when he said that it was before even the early days of the game, and that since then the player base and desire has changed in ways they (fdev) would have needed a crystal ball to foresee. No harm done, I'm just pointing it out. With that said, I believe that it's important for the dev's to understand that they can't cling to the past, either, and that plenty of us want to see the game grow.

I agree, but with that, there is an importance that needs to be gleaned from "experience" too.

Growing at the expense of others isn't a road one needs to follow, but rather growth for a purpose. Clinging to the past isn't helpful- but by gleaning information from those who have experience one tends to understand much more.

You see, beyond the trees lies a forest...

(ANALOGY INCOMING: Must you really stick your hand on the stove to understand what pain is?)
 
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verminstar

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Again you just have no idea how this games works do you?
What meaningful PVP do we have atm? what can you archive with it? give me one piece of content for PVP currently in the game.

I like it how people comment on stuff they admittedly are never involved in and have no clue of the context.

I dont think meaningful means what you think it means...as fer the context...what context? Ye built up yer previous argument on how powerplay should have been open only pvp content...that one went swimmingly well as I recall. Yer entire context is that ye dont like solo and PG...we get it...really...heres a secret...I dont like them either but they are a necessary evil Im afraid because I dont wanna play the same game as you.

Its not personal...its never personal, but ye make it so easy. Im not anti pvp...some are but thats their problem not mine...Im anti the game you play. Id love to play in open...but between playing your game and not playing at all, Id choose the latter...sorry bout that but there it is...no hard feelings theres a good chap.

Your issue is with the fundamental design of the game and yet ye still appear to choose to lash out at the players because nobody wants to play with ye...yer beef is with FD but yer problem is you...yer just the only one who doesnt realize that yet ^
 
To be brutal his mode choice is a lot less likely to effect your chances of seeing him in game than you having quit playing months ago, or have you come back now ?.

hahaha! okay you win on that one. My game is still uninstalled.

I'm certain of it Sole, was on for three hours yesterday evening, no 'brah' action though not even from the missus!

That's because my game is uninstalled brah gotta save some space on my SSD for better games.
 
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verminstar

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I think when he said that it was before even the early days of the game, and that since then the player base and desire has changed in ways they (fdev) would have needed a crystal ball to foresee. No harm done, I'm just pointing it out. With that said, I believe that it's important for the dev's to understand that they can't cling to the past, either, and that plenty of us want to see the game grow.

Well I certainly dont wanna see it fail m8...Im hanging on fer the QOL changes next year and while Im a pessimistic old sod at the best of times, they do appear to be doing something. Im a patient man, I can wait years fer something if I think its gonna be worth it...not gonna let up on the forums in the meantime though...old habits and all that.

Speaking of which, I want pvp to be improved significantly...I sure as hell hadnt planned on being an explorer and playing alone fer 2 years when I got here, and there might just be a year or two left in it yet...one never knows what the future holds but one things fer sure. Ive been a hardcore pvp player fer decades and this is the first game in a long time where I dont enjoy it...not yet anyway. I dont wanna see open die a death cos tbh, Im a social butterfly and I miss playing with people...solo mode serves a purpose but thats all thats special about it...if open were more tolerable then who knows (shrugs) Im making meself feel old fer some odd reason.

Would any of us be here if we wanted the game to fail? Ok theres always one or two but whatever...ye know what I mean jellybean ^
 
Its not 1984 anymore. That version had 16 colors, doesnt mean we shouldnt evolve.

I will go even farther and say ED is meant for PVP, the majority of development focuses around combat.
Now PVE combat can be done in almost any semi engineered ship using gimbaled lasers and MCs.

Now go to PVP and you see all the mods, special effects, fsd reboots, cell banks destroyers, shield destroyers, heat weapons, stealth builds etc, target breakers etc, all those are PVP items, its just FDEV forgot to include content for it, but the game mechanics are shining for PVP. So I am not buying this whole "ED never meant to MP and have PVP in it" because as far as game complexity, skill, tactics and mechanics this is the deepest area of the game.

+++ even the last major CG's were focused around combat and exclusive to open, shall I start naming them all?

The same could be said for PvP holding back Solo... careful what you say here.

Seriously. Stop.


Half the current features wouldn't work if the game was offline, so let's be honest here... solo is holding off the full potential of this game and due to this problem we will most likely never get a true sandbox experience.
 
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