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Which ones were exclusive to Open?
Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made
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Which ones were exclusive to Open?
Maybe he meant "exclusive to Open / Private" ? Which would still be wrong since I know several CMDRs who are soloing the Thargoïds in the current CG.
We're still waiting...
Which features would those be? And how exactly would that affect Solo if the game were "offline"?
90% of the game has been sacrificed for online multiplayer, the game's so hideously crippled that none of its ships are even capable of basic spaceflight, and we have transitions for the transitions.
No full freedom of movement, none of the thrills and spills of basic spaceflight, no seamless transitions, disastrous UI, not even basic autopilot, no FA-off, can't even tweak FA-on, no basic physics, conservation of momentum, no elastic collisions, no persistent AI, no atmospheres, wooden and amateurish "duh, missions!" and passenger system with no proper BBS system... we had to fight for years just to get external views, which were still utterly broken and unusable last i checked..
..if this game were offline solo, it might still be recognisably 'Elite', unlike the pathetically handicapped, clunky and disjointed afterbirth that is ED..
I wasn't implying that you wanted the game to fail at all. And for that matter ED could not improve one teeny little bit beyond the state it's currently in and it won't have failed. Personally, my gripes have more to do with the game's unrealized potential and the ominous feeling that the game is being back burner-ed so Fdev (sensibly) focuses on more lucrative ideas.
It has become increasingly obvious that they've painted themselves into a corner with their development choices, as well as the game's fundamental architecture, and I'm afraid all we're going to see going into the future are minor qol improvements, nothing approaching "adding sand." As far as I'm concerned (and I've been saying this publicly and loudly for months now) 2.4 was their chance to prove they even knew what sand was much less planned on spending their resources pouring it into the box for us to play with. Love it or hate it, ED is what it is, and that's not going to change to any large degree.
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Yes, please start listing all of the open exclusive CG's.
Actually, it's multiplayer, not solo, which has held back the true development potential of Elite Dangerous from a sandbox point of view. Multiplayer is why we have the instancing design which segregates everything into little individual and unconnected "rooms". It's why we have so much development time dedicated to balancing weapons and such just for the PvP pilots, stealing valuable dev time to do other things. It's why multicrew is what it is instead of being NPC crewmembers which everyone can use. It's why Frontier is spending so much dev time on an intricate C&P system instead of other more valuable features. If the game was single player then we'd have a vibrant mod community which would greatly help to alleviate the slow dart board development progress we've gotten from Frontier since 1.0.
Solo has barely gotten any dev attention at all in the past three years, so blaming solo for all of Elite's woes is demonstrably hilarious.
I'm slowly coming to believe this too. I am desperately hoping that Beyond and 2018 proves my fears wrong about this, but my gut tells me you are most likely correct, unfortunately.
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Just as the majority of players when they think of having to put up with your GSP game play.
"focused on combat" does not mean PvP or GSP.
As you tend to shoot NPCs in Solo while still counting for the missions.
Also, I can name all three times something was Open Only. And CGs have never been any of them.
- First to Elite / Triple Elite Cash prize when the game launched
- GPU card giveaway
- Salome (due to Drew flying in Open for the event)
Everything else that has been added to the game, was done so Solo and Private Groups could also take part.
How about "Love it and hate it"?
Yup. Love it and hate it.
The way I see It, is that we like parts of the game, what needs to be done is to make the existing way we play a lot better, not completely change the type of game it is.
So look at existing features and see how to make them better. We can't have a purely player driven economy with the size of the bubble, just not realistically possible. So pseudo one we have is what it needs to be. So let's look at ways that can be enhanced for everyone.
There is a lot that can be done with just the existing game to make it much better.
I think it's best not to talk about corporations, station control etc until the rest of the game is in a healthy state.
So look at existing features and see how to make them better. We can't have a purely player driven economy with the size of the bubble, just not realistically possible. So pseudo one we have is what it needs to be. So let's look at ways that can be enhanced for everyone.
There is a lot that can be done with just the existing game to make it much better.
I think it's best not to talk about corporations, station control etc until the rest of the game is in a healthy state.
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You forgot about the Rise to Power CGs. Some of those were open only.
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To be scrupulously fair, 'The Hunt' event was also Open only.
Or at least you had to be in Open to get the clues.
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That's a good way to put it: The "blaze your own trail" game is not in a healthy state, unless participating in the spoon-fed Thargoid stuff is considered trailblazing.
Any links to support that?
As the thread for it doesn't say that. It says all can get involved.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/243226-The-Dangerous-Games-The-Rise-to-Power!
Thats always been the not-so hidden agenda - give us hapless victims. It has always been obvious.
If people want to PvP that's great - have at it all you want - blow yourselves up and have all the fun you want. But they can't can they? Which shows how phoney the whole PvP thing is. They don't want to play amongst themselves. They might get hurt.
That's the rub; some of our PvP heroes here don't want to go up against like ships and Cmdr's. They might see the rebuy screen and what fun is that? Your own salty tears are not so delicious apparently. So nope, can't PvP against my ship equals.
Much more fun to take my hyper-Engineered combat machine, good for absolutely no other part of the game, and listen to the wailing and salt of hapless Traders and newbies while you heroically blow them up outside of stations. So damn you play in Open where I can kill you! What? No, it doesn't matter what you want to do in a game you paid for with 3 modes. You must play with me when, where, and how I want otherwise FDev is just ruining the game.
Do I have that right now?
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Goose4291
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I can't seem to find it, but the threads tied to the specific CGs once it got whittled down to the final five seem to have been purged.
I can tell you which one it was though: it was the final game with the puzzle and trying to grab salvaged gems, that only spawned in open (similar I'd imagine to the GPU card giveaway design, but on a much larger scale). Caused a bit of a ruckus at the time because it contradicted what they had originally said in the thread you linked.
There was another open only thing as well now I think of it... remember when there was the freighter giving out clues to the Thargoid wreck site, you could only get in open, that SDC brassed up within minutes of its appearance?
Was that the one where it was actually bugged and was supposed to be all modes?
I recall a CG that was bugged and FD decided not to fix it due to it being a few days in by the time folks figured out it was bugged.
I glanced over some post about it, but I didn't pay that much attention as I was busy trading at the time elsewhere.
Yea Drew mentioned it above, The Hunt - though people were travelling in Solo/PGs due to lag and disconnects, then doing quick swaps to Open to get the clues.
I actually forgotten about it until Drew mentioned it.
So if right it's 4 on purpose open only and 1 due to a bug that FD couldn't be bothered to fix?
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